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PostMar 09, 2011#701

Papa's is already closed. :(
Gann miss that place.
The manager of the restaurants told me she thinks someone will take the Papa's menu and idea and relocate it outside the store somewhere. My name for it would be "Famous Papa's". Let's hope so... the place would be a hit IMO!

The construstion has started on 2 and 3 already. They will expand those two foors quite extensively from what I am told. Those floors were cut in half when the STL Centre mall was closed.

All in all... the store is remaining and committed to downtown - Macy's gets a big thumbs up for that! The store is going to really shine when the millions renovations is complete.

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PostApr 20, 2011#702

Walking the floors, seeing entire ones empty, was an extremely depressing experience. The second floor seems finished. The 3rd floor was underway yesterday. The main floor is supposed to be complete soon. They are not doing any significant remodeling (for example the 1980's mirror cieling in the womens section isn't being removed and replaced) apparently but rather reorganzing their merchandise and adding new stuff which I did not see yesterday.

It's too early to tell but unless they add higher quality merchandise especially in the womens section I don't know how this will compete. Ideally they could turn the upper floors into space for designers who can then sell their merchadise in the store itself. I have always done 95% of my shopping at Macy's downtown so I hope it stays in business. Rather than shopping in Toronto I prefer to spend my money here where it makes an impact. I think this stems from the fact that I remember St. Louis Centre and Dillard's as a child and wish they were open today. Everyone go down and buy something.

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PostApr 20, 2011#703

How do you know they are done with the 2nd floor? I was there recently and there wasn't any changes other than moving around merchandise. The person I spoke with said they weren't getting new merchandise until their existing inventory is gone.

If what you are saying is true, then yes it's disturbing.

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PostApr 20, 2011#704

By "done" it seems the merchandise was reorganized on the second floor. They shuffled around menswear to near shoes but I didn't see any new clothes as of yet.

They should get new merchandise now. Why would they go through all of this effort to showcase the store, call it an improvement, only to replace their goods after the old inferior stuff is gone? So people come down expecting new merchandise to only see what has always been in stock. That makes no sense. Rather it seems like they are downsizing.

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PostApr 20, 2011#705

Did someone there say they weren't going to remodel the 2nd floor? Nothing in terms of capital improvements has occured. What about the news you posted about the 3rd floor? Was that confirmed by an employee?

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PostApr 27, 2011#706

Posting observations is great. ..but stating false info is not acceptable. The downtown store is far from done. The first floor is getting all new entry doors and windows, new interior furniture and sales counters. The floors are being redone. Godiva and candy counter will remain. The second and third floors have not expanded into their new spaces yet. The restaurant on 2 will be taken out and the space will be part of the new men's department. The space on the northeast coner of both 2 and 3 are being redesigned and reopened eventually. They are now closed off where the old entry to the mall was. Those spaces are quite large areas. The women's and young ladies on three will be remodeled and the escalators will stop there. The upper floors will not be accessible eventually when the store remodel is completed. Completion is not expected until winter 2011.
This information comes from the horses mouth, store manager Bev.
Macy's is committed to downtown, have signed a long term ease wig the new building owners and are spending over a million dollars in renovations on this store.

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PostApr 27, 2011#707

^That sounds much better.

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PostApr 27, 2011#708

If I could ask one thing of Macy's, it would be that they remove the backings from their window sets, allowing passers-by to actually see into the store. This could do wonders for walk-ins. I know it seems like a small-store move, but guess what - the downtown Macy's has become a small store and the name and window dressing alone aren't enough to drive traffic anymore.

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PostApr 27, 2011#709

It is not that Macy's downtown has become a "small" store - it has just become a more typical Macy's... when completed the store will still be a little larger than any suburban Macy's store (square footage) but will still have things that other Macy's do not offer.

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PostApr 27, 2011#710

matguy70 wrote:It is not that Macy's downtown has become a "small" store - it has just become a more typical Macy's... when completed the store will still be a little larger than any suburban Macy's store (square footage) but will still have things that other Macy's do not offer.
Maybe embrace a small store mentality then. Show off their wares and their space to the people who see nothing in the small 10x6 foot window space to make them step in rather than heading to the mall after work. Don't rely on the name and the logo to drive traffic, but adopt the small retailer notion of working the pavement to bring in new and repeat customers.

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PostMay 05, 2011#711

Well, that didn't take long....

Macy’s Grand Re-Opening
The Downtown Macy’s will be celebrating its fabulous makeover with a day-long Grand Reopening celebration on Thursday, May 19. The fun includes activities throughout the store, many gift with purchases, register to win drawings and much more. For more information, call 314.444.3111.

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PostMay 19, 2011#712

matguy70 wrote:Posting observations is great. ..but stating false info is not acceptable. The downtown store is far from done. The first floor is getting all new entry doors and windows, new interior furniture and sales counters. The floors are being redone. Godiva and candy counter will remain. The second and third floors have not expanded into their new spaces yet. The restaurant on 2 will be taken out and the space will be part of the new men's department. The space on the northeast coner of both 2 and 3 are being redesigned and reopened eventually. They are now closed off where the old entry to the mall was. Those spaces are quite large areas. The women's and young ladies on three will be remodeled and the escalators will stop there. The upper floors will not be accessible eventually when the store remodel is completed. Completion is not expected until winter 2011.
This information comes from the horses mouth, store manager Bev.
Macy's is committed to downtown, have signed a long term ease wig the new building owners and are spending over a million dollars in renovations on this store.
Did anyone attend today's grand reopening festivities? I find it really curious that Macy's would schedule a grand reopening today, when according to the account above, there's still a lot of remaining work to do before the store is complete.

And I still think it was a grave mistake to close the 4th floor and lose the access to the adjacent garage. That floor would have made a great events space since the Christmas activities in recent years drew large crowds.

When I was in the store a couple of weeks ago, there was still a lot of work left to be done on the current changes being made. So I'm a little skeptical about the finished product, and I still don't understand why Macy's would have the grand reopening now instead of waiting until all of the work- including restoration of the Locust Street facade- is complete.

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PostMay 19, 2011#713

threeforone, do you think that the developer might have had that conversation with Macy's as the fourth floor is being developed as floor event/conference space in addition to a fitness center as an ammenity for tenants, including Macy employees?

In that context, Macy has fitted its physical presence to match its desired format of square footage and thus consistency on a national basis. Extra space for events is now just a matter of rental rate where as a lease for the extra space is just another cost whether the space is used or not. So why not pay a little more when or if you decide to use the space versus paying a lease on space that will require maintenance and have very little utilization over the entirety of the year.

Another way to look at, maybe the developer realized where the opporunity lies on the fourth floor. In giving tenants access to the parking garage, temporary space rental and access to a tenant fitness center that brings in a couple of dollar to cover common space maintanence and upkeep.

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PostMay 19, 2011#714

Something's fishy. Initially they said the cost of the renovation was going to be $5-7 million. They really didn't do much renovating other than some new carpeting and paintwork. I doubt they even spent $1 million on it. The counters on the first floor still scream 70's.

They renewed their lease for just 5 years. They must've had yet another change of heart. I am skeptical this renovation is going to turn the store around.

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PostMay 20, 2011#715

dredger wrote:threeforone, do you think that the developer might have had that conversation with Macy's as the fourth floor is being developed as floor event/conference space in addition to a fitness center as an ammenity for tenants, including Macy employees?

In that context, Macy has fitted its physical presence to match its desired format of square footage and thus consistency on a national basis. Extra space for events is now just a matter of rental rate where as a lease for the extra space is just another cost whether the space is used or not. So why not pay a little more when or if you decide to use the space versus paying a lease on space that will require maintenance and have very little utilization over the entirety of the year.

Another way to look at, maybe the developer realized where the opporunity lies on the fourth floor. In giving tenants access to the parking garage, temporary space rental and access to a tenant fitness center that brings in a couple of dollar to cover common space maintanence and upkeep.
I'm sure one of those two scenarios is correct. But I think the fourth floor access from the garage could have been used to the store's advantage. Today, for example, customers got free parking there if they spent $50 in store. Why can't Macy's do that everyday? And with the death of Papa Fabarre's and the Saint Louis Room, along with special events like Breakfast with Santa, the downtown Macy's will be much more like its suburban counterparts in more ways than just size.

I'll reserve final judgment until I shop in the renovated space, or until the final renovations are complete, if indeed more renovations are planned. But there are a lot of reasons to be skeptical about Macy's "commitment" to downtown. Five years for a lease isn't long-term in my opinion. The city estimated renovation costs at $5-7 million, yet Macy's will never divulge what they'll spend to renovate and downsize the store. (Imagine that.) The word on the street, at least until January, was that Papa Fabarre's would remain open even if the Saint Louis Room closed, and then it abruptly closed as well and almost 20 people lost their jobs with little if any notice. Finally, another sign came during the last holiday season, as the decorated store windows were fewer in number and much less elaborate than when Macy's revived the tradition after retiring the Famous-Barr nameplate in late 2006.

Don't get me wrong, I think Macy's can still be successful downtown. But lose the restaurants, lose the events, standardize the square footage and floor plans, and it's less of a downtown department store and more like a department store that happens to be downtown. I'll still shop there if I want when I'm in downtown, but I'll no longer make trips for that expressed purpose. Hopefully downtown workers, residents, and tourists will respond well to the changes, because it's obvious Macy's doesn't care all that much about attracting shoppers from other parts of the region since they blithely got rid of the few remaining touches that separated downtown from the other former Famous-Barr locations in Greater St. Louis.

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PostMay 20, 2011#716

^ Agreed. It's important that downtown retailers differentiate themselves from your standard department store blueprint. That may be a reason (one of many) that St. Louis Centre quickly fell out of favor and boutiques often find success. Broken record warning here, but please open up your window bays to the store inside so we people walking or driving by can see what you've got, Macy's.

It was a start with the balloon arches for the "reopening" yesterday. You successfully engaged the downtown community. Expand on that.

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PostJun 18, 2011#717

Macy's doing brisk business in Cardinal's merchandise: P-D link
The store now carries about 40 percent more Cardinals apparel than it did before the remodel, which was completed last month, said Melinda Nichols, the store manager.

And get this: The downtown store is poised to rank third in the nation among Macy's in the amount of licensed athletic apparel it offers. The store that takes top honors in this category is the chain's flagship store in Herald Square in New York.

The Redbirds strategy already seems to be paying off. There is an uptick in traffic on game days, Nichols said.

"It is one of the best businesses in the store right now," she added.

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PostNov 21, 2011#718

Here is an article about e 14 startups setting up shop in the Railway Exchange building. Make a mental note of them and patronize them when possible. If they succeed we all win. I used Dining Circle this weekend to reserve a dinner reservation and was pleased.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... hange.html

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PostNov 21, 2011#719

downtown2007 wrote:Here is an article about e 14 startups setting up shop in the Railway Exchange building. Make a mental note of them and patronize them when possible. If they succeed we all win. I used Dining Circle this weekend to reserve a dinner reservation and was pleased.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... hange.html
Will do, though it will be somewhat difficult for me to patronize BlackManWorking. T-REx = awesome name, BTW...

-RBB

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PostMay 20, 2013#720

Lisa Brown, business reporter for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch just tweeted this:
Downtown St. Louis Macy's, which opened as a department store in 1924, will close this summer. Final clearance sale begins June 2.
Story to come on stltoday.com.

link: https://twitter.com/LisaBrownSTL

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PostMay 20, 2013#721

Not only is the store closing:
In addition, about 100 Macy's associates who work in various corporate and district offices on the ninth and 10th floors of the Railway Exchange Building will be relocated to space in existing Macy's office facilities in Earth City in St. Louis County. The planning for that move will begin as the store is closed.
Macy's is exiting the St. Louis market entirely for the burbs. Bummer, I will miss this place.

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PostMay 20, 2013#722

I just saw that. While I'm disappointed, I'm not surprised. The day of the large department store is probably behind us, and this particular store had limited hours and a location that seemed like it was a couple blocks too far east and a couple blocks too far south. I suspect Macy's was losing money there.

I wish a City Target would go in there.

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PostMay 20, 2013#723

Crushing. Too bad they never even tried. Selection there was a joke!

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PostMay 20, 2013#724

This is terrible news. Having a Macy's downtown was a big plus for the convenience of downtown living. It's a big blow to the downtown retail scene for sure.

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PostMay 20, 2013#725

Devastating, not the Monday I was looking forward to. I find we're throwing GC in the river and were losing Macys.

Kind of a serious blow to the MX concept. I'm sure MX was aware of it or planned for it.
I just cant even image what could go in that building.

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