Came across this website for the development slated for the corner of Clayton and Tamm in Dogtown:
http://www.lehmanplace.com/
http://www.lehmanplace.com/
Here's an article about the development at Clayton-Tamm:
Dogtown loses some history, gains development
By Patricia Rice
Of the Post-Dispatch
07/11/2005
Complex will replace
Lehman Hardware
Lehman Hardware, its tin ceiling and a lot of Dogtown neighborhood history is coming down. Fourteen apartments and several retail units will be built on the site, to be called Lehman Place.
The store, owned by the Lehman family for nearly a century, went out of business two years ago this month.
Last week, a construction company's mechanical claws was pulling down the frame building, made with lumber recycled from the 1904 World's Fair. Two houses west of the store also will be demolished.
Next July 4, some Lehman Place residents will probably be standing on their recessed fourth-floor balconies, watching the fireworks at the Gateway Arch.
Steve Hamlin, 49, great-grandson of founder George Lehman, went to the roof of the hardware building recently and, with the construction workers, checked out prospective tenants' views.
"We could see over the trees, over to Forest Park. It's one of the highest elevations in the city," he said.
He couldn't see the Gateway Arch, but when the new building is complete, fourth-floor balcony vistas on clear days should include the Arch, downtown, midtown and Clayton.
Even though Dogtown is next to the city limits, longtime residents regularly seek its high spots to get a wide view of the Fair St. Louis fireworks.
Dogtown residents are proud that the Lehman project is homegrown. Members of the third and fourth generation of hardware store founder George Lehman's family formed Lehman Properties with a former employee and former customers. The partnership hired a former friendly rival in Dogtown to construct a 38,000-square-foot, red brick, four-story building.
Construction plans call for four retail stores on the first floor, with 24 outdoor parking spaces on the western yard of the building. The retail spaces range from 1,000 to 2,100 square feet. Apartments are allotted parking in the 19-space basement garage.
The seven second-floor apartments will have one bedroom each. The seven two-story apartments will be on the third and fourth floors. Those units will have living rooms, kitchens and two bedrooms on their lower floors, with master bedrooms, sitting areas and recessed, north-facing balconies on their second level - the building's fourth floor.
Rent is expected to range from $955 to $1,800 a month.
Hamlin, the last family member to manage the hardware store, will oversee the project with advice from his financial partner, lawyer and Dogtown native Chuck Billings, who worked at the hardware store when he was 16. Neighbor and friendly rival O'Neil Lumber's Katsinas Construction division is the general contractor. Marty Ribaudo of Team Ribaudo/ReMax, whose dad was a longtime commercial customer of the hardware store, will market the units.
The time for mourning the hardware store is over, residents say. Neighborhood businesses and resident associations are welcoming the complex at the crossroads of their community.
"Everyone in the family is excited," said Hamlin. "My mother (Martha Moon Hamlin, George Lehman's granddaughter) is excited. She knows that this old building is beyond repair."
The old frame building has no basement and developed stability problems. First it was occupied by Hense and Sons Groceries. George Lehman who had opened a hardware store in 1909, moved into the frame building in 1910. Lehman's son-in-law, Walter Moon, continued the business, passing it along to his son-in-law William Hamlin. In the mid-1980s, his son, Steve Hamlin, took it over.
The store was known for its service. It dispatched clerks to help neighbors replace window panes broken by baseballs. It also stood out among other family-owned hardware stores for its remarkable cleanliness. At the close of business each day, a clerk swept oiled sawdust across the floors to keep them shiny and free of dust. A cleaning woman dusted the merchandise each week.
Those efforts put Lehman in dramatic contrast to hardware stores where a deep breath over the merchandise produces a puff of dust. Soon the site will feature ceramic bath tile and sparkling stainless appliances.
Dogtown loses some history, gains development
By Patricia Rice
Of the Post-Dispatch
07/11/2005
Complex will replace
Lehman Hardware
Lehman Hardware, its tin ceiling and a lot of Dogtown neighborhood history is coming down. Fourteen apartments and several retail units will be built on the site, to be called Lehman Place.
The store, owned by the Lehman family for nearly a century, went out of business two years ago this month.
Last week, a construction company's mechanical claws was pulling down the frame building, made with lumber recycled from the 1904 World's Fair. Two houses west of the store also will be demolished.
Next July 4, some Lehman Place residents will probably be standing on their recessed fourth-floor balconies, watching the fireworks at the Gateway Arch.
Steve Hamlin, 49, great-grandson of founder George Lehman, went to the roof of the hardware building recently and, with the construction workers, checked out prospective tenants' views.
"We could see over the trees, over to Forest Park. It's one of the highest elevations in the city," he said.
He couldn't see the Gateway Arch, but when the new building is complete, fourth-floor balcony vistas on clear days should include the Arch, downtown, midtown and Clayton.
Even though Dogtown is next to the city limits, longtime residents regularly seek its high spots to get a wide view of the Fair St. Louis fireworks.
Dogtown residents are proud that the Lehman project is homegrown. Members of the third and fourth generation of hardware store founder George Lehman's family formed Lehman Properties with a former employee and former customers. The partnership hired a former friendly rival in Dogtown to construct a 38,000-square-foot, red brick, four-story building.
Construction plans call for four retail stores on the first floor, with 24 outdoor parking spaces on the western yard of the building. The retail spaces range from 1,000 to 2,100 square feet. Apartments are allotted parking in the 19-space basement garage.
The seven second-floor apartments will have one bedroom each. The seven two-story apartments will be on the third and fourth floors. Those units will have living rooms, kitchens and two bedrooms on their lower floors, with master bedrooms, sitting areas and recessed, north-facing balconies on their second level - the building's fourth floor.
Rent is expected to range from $955 to $1,800 a month.
Hamlin, the last family member to manage the hardware store, will oversee the project with advice from his financial partner, lawyer and Dogtown native Chuck Billings, who worked at the hardware store when he was 16. Neighbor and friendly rival O'Neil Lumber's Katsinas Construction division is the general contractor. Marty Ribaudo of Team Ribaudo/ReMax, whose dad was a longtime commercial customer of the hardware store, will market the units.
The time for mourning the hardware store is over, residents say. Neighborhood businesses and resident associations are welcoming the complex at the crossroads of their community.
"Everyone in the family is excited," said Hamlin. "My mother (Martha Moon Hamlin, George Lehman's granddaughter) is excited. She knows that this old building is beyond repair."
The old frame building has no basement and developed stability problems. First it was occupied by Hense and Sons Groceries. George Lehman who had opened a hardware store in 1909, moved into the frame building in 1910. Lehman's son-in-law, Walter Moon, continued the business, passing it along to his son-in-law William Hamlin. In the mid-1980s, his son, Steve Hamlin, took it over.
The store was known for its service. It dispatched clerks to help neighbors replace window panes broken by baseballs. It also stood out among other family-owned hardware stores for its remarkable cleanliness. At the close of business each day, a clerk swept oiled sawdust across the floors to keep them shiny and free of dust. A cleaning woman dusted the merchandise each week.
Those efforts put Lehman in dramatic contrast to hardware stores where a deep breath over the merchandise produces a puff of dust. Soon the site will feature ceramic bath tile and sparkling stainless appliances.
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Lehman Place at the former location of Lehman Hardware is under construction. The development will have 14, 2 and 3 bedroom condominiums for sale or lease. There are 4 commercial units available for lease on the first floor. The end unit has been reserved for the coffee shop across the street.
You can see the floor plans and pricing at lehmanplace.com
Chuck Billings
chb@law-stl.com
Developer-member
You can see the floor plans and pricing at lehmanplace.com
Chuck Billings
chb@law-stl.com
Developer-member
Here is a rendering i got off of cbgundaker..
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I live in dogtown so I am excited to see a new development at the core of neighborhood. I only wished they would have hired an architect to do the design. It looks like someone came in with a "build your own home" CD from circuit city and went to town. If they want to get anywhere near 550k ($284/sf) for a unit they need to have better design on the interior than the chesterfield junk on the exterior.
I guess it is a plus that they used brick on the exterior instead of dryvit.
http://www.cbgundaker.com/search/advanc ... 0&type=cnd
-Brent
I live in dogtown so I am excited to see a new development at the core of neighborhood. I only wished they would have hired an architect to do the design. It looks like someone came in with a "build your own home" CD from circuit city and went to town. If they want to get anywhere near 550k ($284/sf) for a unit they need to have better design on the interior than the chesterfield junk on the exterior.
I guess it is a plus that they used brick on the exterior instead of dryvit.
http://www.cbgundaker.com/search/advanc ... 0&type=cnd
-Brent
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If they want to get anywhere near 550k ($284/sf) for a unit they need to have better design on the interior than the chesterfield junk on the exterior.
Why? There are a lot of homes in Chesterfield that sell for $550K.
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I hope it looks better in person, because that design is dreadful.
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i quite like the design - not really wheel chair freindly but urban
If the bay windows looked better, or even get rid of them, it would look pretty good. Seems like a neat project.
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I like the design as well, especially the outdoor space on the top level.
Doug wrote:This is exciting and I can't wait for it to open!
I'm also excited, but $550K for a condo in Dogtown? Isn't that just a little high; llike by a couple hundred thousand?
Doing a search on the 63139 zip code for homes over $300K the most expensive house for sale in Dogtown is $350K
http://www.cbgundaker.com/search/advanc ... 7&type=res
The only condos listed are the Lehmann ones between $450K and $560K.
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Why is the entrance to the shops above the street with it's own walkway?
Doesn't that deter customers?
Doesn't that deter customers?
The only reason I can think of for retail entrances to be raised was to allow for parking underneath. However even if this was the case, I still think there are much better design solutions than raising the retail a number of feet above grade level.
-Brent
-Brent
bhardy wrote:The only reason I can think of for retail enterances to be raised was to allow for parking underneath. However even if this was the case, I still think there are much better design solutions than raising the retail a number of feet above grade level.
-Brent
Probably had to raise roof for the parking to 8+ feet so the owners of the $550K condos could park their Ford Expeditions and Cadillac Escalades.
BTW: anyone know what' going in where the laudromat and grocery used to be? Expansion for Chuy's?
SMSPlanstu wrote:Why is the entrance to the shops above the street with it's own walkway?
Because the street slopes here. Look at the right edge of the rendering. The entrance is level with the sidewalk on that side, then the street slopes down to the left. I don't think this will hinder the retail. It might actually give it a bit more "presence".
The street slopes in many urban areas and they do not end up with a seperated elevated walkway. The floor level of the retail spaces are adjusted such that each entry is at grade. Its going to cut off or at least diminsh the natural interaction of the retail spaces and the activity on the street.
-brent
-brent
550k is pretty high but I am going to optimistic.
There is a good amount of bars and park access in Dogtown. This is a quiet walkable neighborhood and this development is on the AOH Dogtown Parade route.
This is a pretty good location.
I would rather live here than in the Highlands aka "office park - fake lofts" off Oakland.
Lets not forget its pretty close to the wonderful St. Louis Marketplace!!!!
There is a good amount of bars and park access in Dogtown. This is a quiet walkable neighborhood and this development is on the AOH Dogtown Parade route.
This is a pretty good location.
I would rather live here than in the Highlands aka "office park - fake lofts" off Oakland.
Lets not forget its pretty close to the wonderful St. Louis Marketplace!!!!
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The one thing I hate about this building, now that it is startoing to take shape, is the lack of windows and ornamental features on the eastern side of the building. Its as if the designers failed to realize (or didn't care)that east side faces Tamm. I was a Seamus McDaniels eating lunch last week and I couldn't help but notice how ugly the thing is going to look from that viewpoint. Its a shame, but I guess we are past the point of doing anything about it.
^That doesn't sound good! The Eastern facade doesn't really show in the renderings I've seen.
They have brick up on the easter facade now and it looks like they've completely ignored the fact that this site is situated at the most important corner in dogtown. It has about a 15-20' window for the southern facing storefront but other than that its a giant blank wall facing Tamm. Its a shame such a cool corner with such potential received such a poorly designed building.
This building wouldn't pass a freshman level design studio at even a second tier architecture program.
-Brent
This building wouldn't pass a freshman level design studio at even a second tier architecture program.
-Brent
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Unfortunately, outside of historic districts, the City doesn't complete any architectural review of facades. Even if the City would just replace its antiquated use-based zoning with form-based zoning, the City could then require that massing and fenestration of a new wall face be similar to existing context found in neighboring buildings. That way too, if a new building was significantly different, such as this project's much larger mass, it could trigger a conditional review process, where the City would require better design from developers in exchange for increased density.
