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PostAug 17, 2022#701

This is a great looking project, but I think they should stick with tradition and call this Clamorgan Alley. 

That view really makes me miss Boomers and Jake's Steaks! 

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PostAug 17, 2022#702

Depends on who this Esther lady is and why we think she deserve an alley named after her.

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PostAug 17, 2022#703

chriss752 wrote:Who's Esther? 
https://www.lacledeslanding.com/discove ... gan-alley/


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PostAug 17, 2022#704

Oooh well that IS a juicy bit of 19th century drama.  I'm fine with either.

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PostAug 17, 2022#705

^^ Thanks for the link!

How about we go with the Esther - Clamorgan Alley? 😁

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PostAug 18, 2022#706

Looks good but will definitely ruin the vibe of the ghost tours in "America's most haunted alley"

PostSep 12, 2022#707

Just spoke to a worker outside the long vacant Morgan St Brewery Annex (facing third)

Says they are turning it into “A coffee shop, apartments, and something else”


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PostSep 12, 2022#708

Any construction photos or updates on the other rehabs?


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PostSep 13, 2022#709

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Sep 12, 2022
Just spoke to a worker outside the long vacant Morgan St Brewery Annex (facing third)

Says they are turning it into “A coffee shop, apartments, and something else”


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That's great news.  Although I'm kind of surprised that there won't be a brewery there, given the fact that the brewing equipment is already in place.

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PostSep 13, 2022#710

debaliviere wrote:
Sep 13, 2022
GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Sep 12, 2022
Just spoke to a worker outside the long vacant Morgan St Brewery Annex (facing third)

Says they are turning it into “A coffee shop, apartments, and something else”


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That's great news.  Although I'm kind of surprised that there won't be a brewery there, given the fact that the brewing equipment is already in place.
Is there brewing equipment in the annex? 

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PostSep 13, 2022#711

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Sep 13, 2022
debaliviere wrote:
Sep 13, 2022
GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Sep 12, 2022
Just spoke to a worker outside the long vacant Morgan St Brewery Annex (facing third)

Says they are turning it into “A coffee shop, apartments, and something else”


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That's great news.  Although I'm kind of surprised that there won't be a brewery there, given the fact that the brewing equipment is already in place.
Is there brewing equipment in the annex? 
Oops - I missed the part about the annex.

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PostSep 14, 2022#712

No photos but not much to see at this point outside of interior demo. No brewing equipment located in this buildings. It's been empty for years now.

Also the Ward Burg garden still sits there 99% finished and behind a fence. Blows my mind that they won't just throw a few cones around the small unfinished area and open the rest of it to the public.

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PostSep 14, 2022#713

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Sep 14, 2022
No photos but not much to see at this point outside of interior demo. No brewing equipment located in this buildings. It's been empty for years now.

Also the Ward Burg garden still sits there 99% finished and behind a fence. Blows my mind that they won't just throw a few cones around the small unfinished area and open the rest of it to the public.
I’d guess it’s some kinda of liability insurance thing where they don’t want to accept the final product from contractor until it’s done

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PostSep 22, 2022#714

Vandalism and vagrancy threaten Laclede’s Landing redevelopment, developer says: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... -top-story

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PostSep 22, 2022#715

Oof.

“We are just getting destroyed down here,” Brian Minges said. “If I wasn’t knee deep in this, I would have walked away.” Until something changes, Brian Minges said, the bulk of his company’s plans for the area are on hold.

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PostSep 22, 2022#716

Seems like another in the recent line of "we've identified the problem" articles, be it scooters, people in the park at night, 3am bars and now homeless.

That encampment is in an area where nobody goes, by the permanently closed floodwall and the barricaded streets. We should at least have some plan to use an area before kicking out homeless people from an area the city is not even using and has no plans to use.

We going to put another permanent fence there like at Interco?

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PostSep 23, 2022#717

90% of these problems could be solved with an officer walking the beat around the Landing. Sometimes I see a couple of the downtown guys on bikes, but just have somebody walking around between 7am-2am. 

I know that staffing is limited but it seems like an easy expenditure to keep Advantes happy and allow the Landing to gain enough activity to naturally police itself via increased eyes on the street. Right now sh*t goes unchecked because the Landing is a ghost town

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PostSep 27, 2022#718

Six apartments + retail at the old Morgan Street Brewery: https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... -top-story

PostSep 28, 2022#719

And Mattison talked about the neighborhood’s potential, adding that Horseshoe St. Louis, formerly Lumiere Place casino, is planning its own multimillion-dollar project. It’s not clear if that is connected to the property an affiliate of Caesar’s Entertainment Inc., which runs the Horseshoe St. Louis, acquired earlier this summer.
The Morgan Street article was updated to include this info.  Not sure what it's referring to.

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PostSep 28, 2022#720

This was mentioned on KMOX in an interview with some rep from Advantes complaining about the current encampment

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PostSep 28, 2022#721

debaliviere wrote:
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And Mattison talked about the neighborhood’s potential, adding that Horseshoe St. Louis, formerly Lumiere Place casino, is planning its own multimillion-dollar project. It’s not clear if that is connected to the property an affiliate of Caesar’s Entertainment Inc., which runs the Horseshoe St. Louis, acquired earlier this summer.
The Morgan Street article was updated to include this info.  Not sure what it's referring to.
Several months ago, I was told that Hotel Lumiere was eyed for demolition for an entertainment complex similar to what you’d find in Vegas. A new, middle tier hotel would be built at the southeastern corner of the Bottle District while this entertainment center was built and opened. Additional enhancements to the Lumiere Place area were also kicked around, but none were as major as those. The biggest was reimagining how to use the area under the highway and making the tunnel entrance linked to a retail strip outside. At the time, the hope was for these investments to draw more interest in the complex and be part of a “tourist” package where you can casino hop across the nation to see different shows and experience different things.

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PostSep 28, 2022#722

That's all very interesting.  Is it fairly normal in the casino industry for a place that's less than 15 years old to be torn down?  I'm assuming this would all be separate from Four Seasons, too, but wonder what kind of effect it would have on it.  I'm all for additional development, especially since they never finished what they started, just didn't expect any kind of rumblings about what was already built was kicked around for a razing. 

EDIT: Skipped over the "Hotel" part. My bad.

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PostSep 28, 2022#723

EssTeeEll wrote:
Sep 28, 2022
That's all very interesting.  Is it fairly normal in the casino industry for a place that's less than 15 years old to be torn down?  I'm assuming this would all be separate from Four Seasons, too, but wonder what kind of effect it would have on it.  I'm all for additional development, especially since they never finished what they started, just didn't expect any kind of rumblings about what was already built was kicked around for a razing. 
What place do you think is less than 15 years old?

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PostOct 21, 2022#724

Update on the Ward Burg Garden

PostNov 23, 2022#725

Metal trellis going up today at the Ward Burg garden

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