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PostAug 18, 2021#251

Voltrons aside, really looking forward to seeing what is unveiled here.

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PostAug 18, 2021#252

I'm sad the Maryland Plaza Voltron wasn't permanent. 

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PostAug 18, 2021#253

I had forgotten about that. More on Voltron here:

https://m.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/ ... flix-debut

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PostAug 18, 2021#254

there really should be a permanent Voltron statue somewhere in the city.

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PostAug 18, 2021#255

Don't give SLU any ideas or they'll scrap Iron Hill for a dedicated Voltron sculpture park.

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PostAug 18, 2021#256

^ Voltron Hill!

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PostAug 18, 2021#257

Hate to say it Laife but you will be forever known on this website for giving SLU the idea for their next sculpture park.  

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PostAug 18, 2021#258

urban_dilettante wrote:
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a life-size Voltron would be the best possible outcome.
IDK if it's life-sized, but I got a line on a cheap, gently-used Transformer knockoff that could be repurposed.  They just need to find a 5-story-long sword...


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PostAug 19, 2021#259

^ Gundam might predate Transformers, actually. In any case I'll take that one too. It would look pretty badass hanging out in Cortex Commons or in Midtown somewhere.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundam

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PostAug 19, 2021#260

^You're right, it does predate transformers. By about five years. And it was probably the direct inspiration for the transformers. Takara Tomy wanted to sell toys they didn't have to license from someone else so they came up with the first couple of what would become the Transformers. If there's any single franchise responsible for the proliferation of the giant robot trope it's Gundam. That giant robot they built in Japan? The real one that (sort of) actually moves? It's a Gundam suit. Gundam wasn't the first, but it's absolutely one of the most ubiquitous. (Not to knock the Transformers, which are probably the franchise most responsible for making them mainstream in the US. Which is also kind of a big deal. But I still prefer Voltron.)

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PostAug 20, 2021#261

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If I were all of you, I'd keep an eye on this property over the next year or two.
Some movement today. Stuff is happening behind the scenes.
Chris, any chance you could give us a hint on the timeline for an announcement?  Weeks, months...longer?  I know you can't divulge anything, but wondering if it's somewhat close.

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PostAug 21, 2021#262

sc4mayor wrote:
chriss752 wrote:
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chriss752 wrote:
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If I were all of you, I'd keep an eye on this property over the next year or two.
Some movement today. Stuff is happening behind the scenes.
Chris, any chance you could give us a hint on the timeline for an announcement?  Weeks, months...longer?  I know you can't divulge anything, but wondering if it's somewhat close.
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PostAug 23, 2021#263

The project will be mixed-use based on what I've been told previously from a number of people, but I'll withhold the exact usages. As for when we'll see an announcement, I'll stay quiet on that. Anyways, this map from March 2021 from WUMCRC hints at the project as the site is colored in orange and outlined in a dotted line.

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PostAug 23, 2021#264

Urban Target with apartments on top?

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PostAug 23, 2021#265

Seems like a great location to include some hotel rooms. 

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PostAug 23, 2021#266

framer wrote:Seems like a great location to include some hotel rooms. 
Agreed. Like I've said a few times in various threads here, St. Louis could use a flagship, modern hotel more like a Mandarin Oriental or Waldorf Astoria.

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PostAug 23, 2021#267

Hopefully they didn't see the april fools joke and get wise ideas.  https://nextstl.com/2021/04/lindell-and ... announced/

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PostAug 23, 2021#268

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Agreed. Like I've said a few times in various threads here, St. Louis could use a flagship, modern hotel more like a Mandarin Oriental or Waldorf Astoria.
I highly doubt we could support those, especially with the presence of Four Seasons and Ritz-Carlton already in the region. Honestly, the fact that we can support both a Ritz Carlton and a Four Seasons is kind of underappreciated. Most of our peer cities have neither (Cleveland has a Ritz-Carlton). However, the locations of both hotels are unfortunate. A CWE or Midtown location for either would be much more beneficial for the city. Sonesta seems to be doing pretty well with The Chase, it continues to get great guest reviews and the renovations have been okay. On one hand I wish it had gotten a more prestigious brand, on the other hand it may have been too large and complicated of a property for that. I'm all for more hotels adjacent to Forest Park though, it has a great NYC Central Park / Plaza Hotel vibe to it. 

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PostAug 23, 2021#269

Trololzilla wrote:
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Urban Target with apartments on top?
I'm still betting that one being Steelcote Phase 4.

PostAug 23, 2021#270

brianadler6545 wrote:
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framer wrote:Seems like a great location to include some hotel rooms. 
Agreed. Like I've said a few times in various threads here, St. Louis could use a flagship, modern hotel more like a Mandarin Oriental or Waldorf Astoria.
Magic 8 Ball says it's likely, but not a done deal. 😉

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PostAug 23, 2021#271

aprice wrote:
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Agreed. Like I've said a few times in various threads here, St. Louis could use a flagship, modern hotel more like a Mandarin Oriental or Waldorf Astoria.
I highly doubt we could support those, especially with the presence of Four Seasons and Ritz-Carlton already in the region. Honestly, the fact that we can support both a Ritz Carlton and a Four Seasons is kind of underappreciated. Most of our peer cities have neither (Cleveland has a Ritz-Carlton). However, the locations of both hotels are unfortunate. A CWE or Midtown location for either would be much more beneficial for the city. Sonesta seems to be doing pretty well with The Chase, it continues to get great guest reviews and the renovations have been okay. On one hand I wish it had gotten a more prestigious brand, on the other hand it may have been too large and complicated of a property for that. I'm all for more hotels adjacent to Forest Park though, it has a great NYC Central Park / Plaza Hotel vibe to it. 
My two cents is St Louis gained a Lowe's which isn't your typical chain and more in line with a high end presence.  Even they seem to have some issue getting to a standard that  would be expected from my understanding of reviews.    However, I think I share the same sentiment, some rooms would be a good fit but also need to up the standard for this site.  Just don't think that it would be nor would Mandarin Oriental or Waldorf Astoria consider it.  

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PostAug 23, 2021#272

Marriott is a pretty big name in the St. Louis hotel world. This site would be perfect for a JW Marriott with a signature top floor restaurant. Just sayin'

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PostAug 23, 2021#273

chriss752 wrote:
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Marriott is a pretty big name in the St. Louis hotel world. This site would be perfect for a JW Marriott with a signature top floor restaurant. Just sayin'
Either a JW or W would be a nice grab...large gap in the midwest for both of those hotels.

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PostAug 23, 2021#274

I think a Grand Hyatt or a Conrad by Hilton would be fantastic for this location versus Mandarin Oriental or Waldorf Astoria. I mean, even Nashville doesn't have either of those latter flags presently or in the proposal pipeline. 

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PostAug 23, 2021#275

reednavy wrote:I think a Grand Hyatt or a Conrad by Hilton would be fantastic for this location versus Mandarin Oriental or Waldorf Astoria. I mean, even Nashville doesn't have either of those latter flags presently or in the proposal pipeline. 
That's true, but these brands do sometimes choose locations with close access to historical sites, national parks, landmarks, etc. We shouldn't sell ourselves short what with the Arch and all.

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