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Kassebaum Building 5039 Lemay Ferry To Become QT

Kassebaum Building 5039 Lemay Ferry To Become QT

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PostMar 20, 2021#1

It's like these ghouls' mission is to destroy walkability. It's a apart of the business model, I suppose. Wished we'd known about this earlier.

Call Newspapers - In-person open house scheduled for tonight on proposed QuikTrip

https://callnewspapers.com/in-person-op ... -quiktrip/

PostMar 20, 2021#2

#26 Historical Landmarks, South St. Louis County

https://stlcogis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/M ... e116da#map

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PostMar 20, 2021#3

I think if enough people email the county council asking to not approve of the new plans, then this can be stopped. 

Also, a QT recently opened 2.5 miles south on Meramec Bottom Road and another one is planned at the northeast corner of Lindbergh and Lemay Ferry (3 miles north). 

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PostMar 20, 2021#4

I'm offended.  As a person who grew up in south county, the Basement was a local landmark.  Also, isn't there open land all around the area? Why demolish?

They could literally use the giant parking lot of the strip mall catty-cornered, destroy nothing, and just plop some pumps and a cinder block building there.  I know the immense amount of parking needed for a real estate office, but maybe we can compromise.

How's the campaign for Grand and 44 going?

Who specifically should be contacted to send my grievances?

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PostMar 20, 2021#5

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I'm offended.  As a person who grew up in south county, the Basement was a local landmark.  Also, isn't there open land all around the area? Why demolish?

They could literally use the giant parking lot of the strip mall catty-cornered, destroy nothing, and just plop some pumps and a cinder block building there.  I know the immense amount of parking needed for a real estate office, but maybe we can compromise.

How's the campaign for Grand and 44 going?

Who specifically should be contacted to send my grievances?
There's been some development on nearby vacant space, but there's still plenty that can hold a QuikTrip that doesn't result in the Kassebaum building being demolished. 

I'm also interested to hear what's up with Grand and 44, but I suppose that is advancing.

I'd contact the members of the St. Louis County Council and ask them to to not approve of this QuikTrip plan. Each of the member's profiles has a button allowing you to email them.
https://stlouiscountymo.gov/st-louis-co ... y-council/

This whole situation reminds me of the Richmond Heights (Big Bend and Clayton Road) Total Access Urgent Care, which demolished a historic building.

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PostMar 20, 2021#6

This is in County Council District 6 Ernie Trakas 
https://stlouiscountymo.gov/st-louis-co ... istrict-6/

Grand and 44 is Ald Marlene Davis 19th
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... -davis.cfm

PostMar 20, 2021#7

Plenty of land nearby
Kassebaum Building 5039 Lemay Ferry Aeral Marked.png (4MiB)

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PostMar 20, 2021#8

I walked around the site.

It seems like they could still build a QuikTrip here without demolishing any of the buildings. The land behind the row of buildings along Lemay Ferry Road is quite large. More than enough space for a normal sized QuikTrip. Looking at the inside of the Kassebaum building, there a neat tile floor in the corner space. The building also has a good amount of cast-iron on it and is quite decorative up close. Session Fixture looks to be moved out.

The neighboring white building, that looks like a multi-family building with two storefronts on the first floor, seems to have been empty for a while now. It’s showing it’s age but can be renovated if somebody wanted to. I don’t know about the old house down the way. Overall, if everything was demolished here, this would be a very big site for a QuikTrip. It just doesn’t make any good sense to me as to why they’d want one here especially with some out lots in front of the hotels on Butler Hill Road for sale.

I’ll post the photos I took of the property later. Tapatalk is not allowing me to upload photos right now.

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PostMar 20, 2021#9

If they put it behind the buildings then drivers won't be able to see it from Lemay. Can't have that. Must destroy!

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PostMar 20, 2021#10

quincunx wrote:
Mar 20, 2021
Plenty of land nearbyKassebaum Building 5039 Lemay Ferry Aeral Marked.png
You forgot to circle the 3-4 gas stations within the immediate proximity.

Also, I've given up with Marlene Davis.  I've asked her why she thinks there should be another ***** QT there probably 3-4 times and just get a message that says 'call me' instead of giving written responses with paper trails.

Seems like every alder needs their QT.

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PostMar 20, 2021#11

As promised, here are the pictures from today. If you look closely at the picture of the interior space with the blue and white tile floor, you can see a tin ceiling behind a moved drop down ceiling piece. So many little architectural features in this building. Makes me even more sad at the thought of losing it.
















The rest of the site. Construction trailers are there, so I guess they're betting on approval.





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PostMar 21, 2021#12

I guess my one-man, five-year-long boycott of Quick Trip isn't working.

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PostMar 21, 2021#13

I've been with you the whole time.

PostMar 21, 2021#14

Nextstl - Demo Alert: QuikTrip Plans To Replace The Kassebaum Building In South StL County

https://nextstl.com/2021/03/demo-alert- ... tl-county/

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PostMar 21, 2021#15

Sent an email to Trakas.  Expecting it to be summarily thrown in the recycle bin.

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PostMar 22, 2021#16

I've sent emails to all members of the County Council asking to not approve of this QuikTrip when it comes up for review at the County Council

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PostMar 22, 2021#17

Not being a county resident, I've posted it to my Facebook page trying to encourage friends to take action. It does make me wonder what we can do to better incentivize adaptive reuse and to encourage folks like QT to get more creative with their site plans and street frontage; to move away from logo buildings upon the asphalt sea.

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PostMar 22, 2021#18

framer wrote:
Mar 21, 2021
I guess my one-man, five-year-long boycott of Quick Trip isn't working.
oh, you're not alone. the three of us are doing real damage. i haven't given them any business since the Jefferson/Chouteau demolition.

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PostMar 23, 2021#19

^I'm late to the game, but I'll join up.

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PostMar 24, 2021#20

I received a reply from Councilman Trakas
Thank you for contacting me regarding the proposed QuikTrip at the corner of Lemay Ferry and Butler Hill Roads. I completely understand and fully appreciate the historic significance of the Kassebaum Building that is on the site of the proposed development. On Monday, March 15 I, along with QuikTrip representatives, organized an in person town hall for officials from QuikTrip to present their plan for the site and for local residents to ask questions and provide feedback on that plan.  Additionally, on Thursday, March 18 a similar virtual town hall via Zoom was held for those who could not attend the in person town hall, or did not feel comfortable with an in person meeting due to the COVID-19 virus. The PowerPoint provided at those meetings is attached for reference.
 
Be assured I will be considering all constituent feedback on this issue as QT’s proposal moves through the County’s zoning process.  The town halls were a jump start so the community would have an opportunity to provide feedback.  There are additional opportunities for constituent input on this project through the Planning and Zoning process, as well as with the full St. Louis County Council.  
 
I would encourage you to sign up with the County for all Planning Commission meetings and agendas for the most current up-to-date information at the link below.
 
https://visitor.r20.constantcontact.com ... 0yyQ%3D%3D

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PostMar 24, 2021#21

urban_dilettante wrote:
Mar 22, 2021
framer wrote:
Mar 21, 2021
I guess my one-man, five-year-long boycott of Quick Trip isn't working.
oh, you're not alone. the three of us are doing real damage. i haven't given them any business since the Jefferson/Chouteau demolition.
That is when I stopped as well 😊

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PostMar 24, 2021#22

5 strong!

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PostMar 24, 2021#23

I got a similar response to Quincunx. Here are some screenshots from the PDF.

Renderings...




Site Plan...


Add insult to injury with this...



They then explained that the Kassebaum Building would cost $3 Million to redevelop and included pictures of the inside of the building. Honestly, I think it could be done for far less because the renovation of 900 South 4th Street was a building in far worse shape and cost less than $1 Million to fix up. And that was with completely rebuilding the first floor, redoing the basement and other things.

I just think it’s an excuse for them to demolish the building and get their way.

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PostMar 24, 2021#24

QuickTrip can eat sh*t and die.

PostMar 24, 2021#25

i mean, regardless of what it costs, QT doesn't redevelop buildings. they just destroy them. so what the f*ck does it even matter what QT thinks the renovation would cost? they're goal is to tear it down. why listen to a damn thing they say?

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