Actualy, I would rather see JetBlue allowed to have the A concourse if it were really offering a hub.
As much as I'd like to see jetBlue (or US Airways for that matter) have a hub here, I just don't see it happening unless STL starts generating a LOT more O&D traffic.
Originating passengers are just as important in the decision to develop a hub as connecting passengers. With the airlines we have, O&D is pretty well covered as O&D is not really booming here.
Chicago might have two airports that are saturated with flights by AA, UA, and WN - but that city generates a LOT more originating passengers than STL could ever hope to. It might make more sense for them to build a major presence there at MDW or ORD.
If the airline does come here, I'd expect to see flights to JFK and LGB with perhaps one or two leisure destinations in Florida, but nothing MORE
I'd LOVE to see MORE, though:D I have a friend working at JetBlue in New York, and when I asked if they'll ever fly to St Louis, he told me, "just wait." In a tone that suggests they'll be announcing something soon.[\quote]
If Xing is on point about what his/her friend said, then I hope they set up shop here in a BIG way!
I will say that I think St. Louis would be willing to support another airline. AA has not done anything to continue any loyalty from the locals.
Actually, AA reports STL International as their 3rd largest hub after Chicago - you were close.
Hubs:
Dallas-Fort Worth Int'l Airport
O'Hare International Airport
Lambert Saint Louis Int'l Airport
Miami International Airport
John F. Kennedy Int'l Airport
LaGuardia Airport
Logan International Airport
As for Southwest,
They offer over 100 flights a day in STL - but I am not sure of their hub status in STL - as Southwest truly doesn't support the airline on "hub" airports.
Hubs:
Dallas-Fort Worth Int'l Airport
O'Hare International Airport
Lambert Saint Louis Int'l Airport
Miami International Airport
John F. Kennedy Int'l Airport
LaGuardia Airport
Logan International Airport
As for Southwest,
They offer over 100 flights a day in STL - but I am not sure of their hub status in STL - as Southwest truly doesn't support the airline on "hub" airports.
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Isn't Jet Blue run by businessman Dave Checketts?
Well, he is is one the front runners in the bid to buy the Blues. Maybe if he gets the team, we will see the Savvis Center renamed to the Jet Blue Center (has a nice ring to it) and flights at Lambert.....
Well, he is is one the front runners in the bid to buy the Blues. Maybe if he gets the team, we will see the Savvis Center renamed to the Jet Blue Center (has a nice ring to it) and flights at Lambert.....
I am new to the forum, but a long-time lurker...
I currently live in Manhattan, but I am a native St. Louisan. I travel home 3 or 4 times a year, but I can never get the flight that I want because airfare is usually so much higher than I am willing to pay.
So, today I was searching for flights for an upcoming trip. I checked to see if Jet Blue flies to STL... nope, not yet. But, it got me wondering if they had any plans... I found two bits of hearsay, but they are interesting.
The first bit was a comment I found on a blog on usatoday.com... it reads:
"I bet jb does very well going west in the 190 to CA, even against swa. Look for 320s to move in and take a few seasonal routes.
STL -- that will be our midwest hub. All points west in a 190. Whether STL is a good decision will remain to be seen.
Posted by: bc | Jul 21, 2006 9:42:52 AM"
source: http://blogs.usatoday.com/sky/2006/07/r ... blue_.html
Then there was this bit:
"Norfolk, VA: Is STL a focus city for American Airlines since it acquired TWA. It seems like it would be an ideal hub for JetBlue to be located in the MidWest.....any thoughts
Ben Mutzabaugh: St. Louis is a focus city -- or small hub -- for American. There has been some speculation that St. Louis could not only see new JetBlue service, but that the carrier could develop STL into something of a small regional hub. Even with the presence of Southwest, St. Louis is one of the more overpriced U.S. airline markets (with a few exceptions, like the routes to Chicago or Dallas). Still, given JetBlue's announcement today that it would further slow growth, it wouldn't surprise me if they came to St. Louis ... but I'd expect them to start only with flights to JFK and maybe Dulles or Boston. And buildup beyond that -- if it happened at all -- would likely be a gradual effort."
source: http://transcripts.usatoday.com/Chats/t ... aspx?c=896
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I take it with a grain of salt, but given their recent expansion to BNA (Nashville), I would imagine that STL is not far behind.
I have been unable to locate any other information to substantiate this, but I am hopeful that Jet Blue can do for the JFK to STL route, what it's done for JFK to BNA. Whether or not STL is a hub, I feel confident that Jet Blue is on its way to STL... sometime in 2007, perhaps?
I currently live in Manhattan, but I am a native St. Louisan. I travel home 3 or 4 times a year, but I can never get the flight that I want because airfare is usually so much higher than I am willing to pay.
So, today I was searching for flights for an upcoming trip. I checked to see if Jet Blue flies to STL... nope, not yet. But, it got me wondering if they had any plans... I found two bits of hearsay, but they are interesting.
The first bit was a comment I found on a blog on usatoday.com... it reads:
"I bet jb does very well going west in the 190 to CA, even against swa. Look for 320s to move in and take a few seasonal routes.
STL -- that will be our midwest hub. All points west in a 190. Whether STL is a good decision will remain to be seen.
Posted by: bc | Jul 21, 2006 9:42:52 AM"
source: http://blogs.usatoday.com/sky/2006/07/r ... blue_.html
Then there was this bit:
"Norfolk, VA: Is STL a focus city for American Airlines since it acquired TWA. It seems like it would be an ideal hub for JetBlue to be located in the MidWest.....any thoughts
Ben Mutzabaugh: St. Louis is a focus city -- or small hub -- for American. There has been some speculation that St. Louis could not only see new JetBlue service, but that the carrier could develop STL into something of a small regional hub. Even with the presence of Southwest, St. Louis is one of the more overpriced U.S. airline markets (with a few exceptions, like the routes to Chicago or Dallas). Still, given JetBlue's announcement today that it would further slow growth, it wouldn't surprise me if they came to St. Louis ... but I'd expect them to start only with flights to JFK and maybe Dulles or Boston. And buildup beyond that -- if it happened at all -- would likely be a gradual effort."
source: http://transcripts.usatoday.com/Chats/t ... aspx?c=896
*****
I take it with a grain of salt, but given their recent expansion to BNA (Nashville), I would imagine that STL is not far behind.
I have been unable to locate any other information to substantiate this, but I am hopeful that Jet Blue can do for the JFK to STL route, what it's done for JFK to BNA. Whether or not STL is a hub, I feel confident that Jet Blue is on its way to STL... sometime in 2007, perhaps?
this would be incredible. I am also currently displaced from STL in NYC. unless you get the last minute $200 AA.com fare, the flights are $400+ usually (same with ATL-STL routes in college).
just found this...
http://jetblue.com/email/citysuggest.as ... re_we_fly1
you can sugguest cities where jetblue should fly next. post st louis!
http://jetblue.com/email/citysuggest.as ... re_we_fly1
you can sugguest cities where jetblue should fly next. post st louis!
There has been some recnt "buzz" if you will on Jet Blue making St. Louis a regional hub west/north and south. Let's watch.
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STLMO314 wrote:just found this...
http://jetblue.com/email/citysuggest.as ... re_we_fly1
you can sugguest cities where jetblue should fly next. post st louis!
I posted "St. Louis - as a hub"
I posted St. Louis as hub, too.
It was easy to do. Everyone should do it.
It was easy to do. Everyone should do it.
Posted St. Louis flying from Long Beach.
Hey, if everyone should suggested St. Louis flying from a different city-- you get the idea.
Hey, if everyone should suggested St. Louis flying from a different city-- you get the idea.
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Expat wrote:I posted St. Louis as hub, too.
It was easy to do. Everyone should do it.
I also posted this on their website, hopefully, it comes true!
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10-intuition wrote:Expat wrote:I posted St. Louis as hub, too.
It was easy to do. Everyone should do it.
I also posted this on their website, hopefully, it comes true!
DITTO
NY - STL
I LOVE not having a huge line at Lambert, but HATE not having non stop options we used to have.
I think I am ready for the long lines and shorter (direct) flights
I LOVE not having a huge line at Lambert, but HATE not having non stop options we used to have.
I think I am ready for the long lines and shorter (direct) flights
matguy70 wrote:There has been some recnt "buzz" if you will on Jet Blue making St. Louis a regional hub west/north and south. Let's watch.
U can't leave it at that........ What "buzz". Anything that can be substantiated?
Wow... The threads in that link were very informative to some of the business deals of STL Lambert (taken with a grain of salt, cause there is no way to confirm any of the statements).
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if there was one thing that article lacked, it was the copious use of acronyms. I sure could have used a few more to better understand what they were talking about.
I noticed in that thread on the airline site someone spoke of talks with airtran next year, which would also be a great addition. I checked on Airtran's website, which said they are looking to expand, and you can select a city for them to go to next, like Jetblue's website. Pick STL
http://www.airtran.com/nextcity/default.aspx
http://www.airtran.com/nextcity/default.aspx