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PostJan 05, 2017#1076

debaliviere wrote:Anyone know if the IKEA is performing up to expectations?
From what I have heard, it's outperforming expectations. Many of my SLU friends go there frequently for the cafe, and all have purchased their form furniture from there.


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PostJan 05, 2017#1077

I've been up there probably at least a dozen times and I've lost count how many times I've seen people pose for pictures in front of the welcome sign inside. I'm taking the assumption they aren't from St. Louis or a place that has an Ikea so I would say that's a plus in my book

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PostJan 05, 2017#1078

For what it's worth, we're thinking of moving back to STL and we've decided that when/if it happens we're not moving any furniture. We're just Craigslisting it all here in DC and then buying new from IKEA once we're in STL.

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PostJan 06, 2017#1079

About to buy kitchen cabinets from IKEA myself and I was there on the weekend before Christmas and both parking lots (inside/outside) were full.

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PostJan 06, 2017#1080

Believe it was reported as ~$80M in taxable sales in first 9 months. That was for the 63110 ZIP with some other additions, but obviously the vast majority of the increase would be from IKEA.

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PostJan 07, 2017#1081

63110 Taxable Sales/use
2014 Q1 $57,014,490.84
2014 Q2 68,635,964.12
2014 Q3 76,849,916.46
2014 Q4 68,105,643.72
2015 Q1 58,309,471.19
2015 Q2 71,026,634.03
2015 Q3 74,719,178.89
2015 Q4 101,718,769.82
2016 Q1 86,509,991.86
2016 Q2 89,723,010.75
2016 Q3 89,608,380.80

367.5M (last four quarters) - 272.1 (4 quarters before that) = 95.4M
It can't all be attributed to Ikea of course.
Was there an estimate of sales stated before Ikea opened?

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PostJan 07, 2017#1082

Business Journal article mentioned before it opened that
People familiar with the matter told the Business Journal in 2013 that annual sales at the store would top $100 million.


So sounds like it was close but the "would top" could just mean in the future which probably will happen if Ikea same stores sales rise (which is expected)

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PostNov 14, 2019#1084

A few things, dreaming of course:
- I wonder if a group of city/environmental advocates could work with IKEA on a new plan for STL lots. Previously, someone on UrbanSTL has mentioned the idea of an IKEA village. If their strategy is to develop stores in urban areas, in the name of environmental justice... why wouldn't they (pending finances of structured parking) be open to allowing an urban community develop around them? Streets of St. Charles or The Boulevard in Richmond Heights would fit in their surface lots. With Cortex and Foundry, they're sitting on good land.
- IKEA on the first two floors of RX would've been incredible. Huge for downtown, beautiful use of space. Oh well.

Ikea rolling out urban stores:
https://www.treehugger.com/eco-friendly ... burbs.html

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PostMay 15, 2020#1085

Not related to St. Louis, but Ikea's shopping mall business, Ingka Centres, is looking to buy up properties in 45 urban cores around existing Ikea stores.  New York, LA, Chicago, and San Francisco were specifically mentioned.
Ingka Centres’ move into city locations comes alongside furniture giant Ikea’s strategy shift towards smaller albeit more accessible inner-city stores with more digital and other services.  Along with its rivals, Ingka Centres has also increased the share of restaurants and entertainment at its centers in recent years to adapt to consumers’ online shift and a tougher retail landscape.

“We plan to build mixed-use facilities that we call meeting places and that have a wide range of facilities and services,” Groener said, adding activities could range from healthcare and education to festivals and events, besides retail and food.
St. Louis probably isn't high on their list...but our Ikea is smack dab in the center of the city...
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 815a6.html

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PostMay 15, 2020#1086

sc4mayor wrote:
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Not related to St. Louis, but Ikea's shopping mall business, Ingka Centres, is looking to buy up properties in 45 urban cores around existing Ikea stores.  New York, LA, Chicago, and San Francisco were specifically mentioned.
Ingka Centres’ move into city locations comes alongside furniture giant Ikea’s strategy shift towards smaller albeit more accessible inner-city stores with more digital and other services.  Along with its rivals, Ingka Centres has also increased the share of restaurants and entertainment at its centers in recent years to adapt to consumers’ online shift and a tougher retail landscape.

“We plan to build mixed-use facilities that we call meeting places and that have a wide range of facilities and services,” Groener said, adding activities could range from healthcare and education to festivals and events, besides retail and food.
St. Louis probably isn't high on their list...but our Ikea is smack dab in the center of the city...
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 815a6.html
Well Ikea has 423 stores in 52 markets. Their planning to buy up properties in 45 markets. So I think we may have good chances. 

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PostMay 15, 2020#1087

That doesn’t even make sense.
423 divided by 52 is 8.12345whatever....

Chicago has two, we have one, Atlanta has one, Cincinnati has one, Memphis has one, KC has one, most markets have one...
A handful of markets need to have like 20+ for the math to make sense. (I suck at math) Maybe they’re out there. Too lazy to google.

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PostMay 15, 2020#1088

Based upon IKEA's own website, https://about.ikea.com/en/organisation/ ... ights-2019, they have 433 stores worldwide.  The 50 markets are e-commerce; i.e. different country specific websites.  Not the same as 433 stores in 50 physical region markets.  

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PostMay 15, 2020#1089

sc4mayor wrote:
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Not related to St. Louis, but Ikea's shopping mall business, Ingka Centres, is looking to buy up properties in 45 urban cores around existing Ikea stores.  New York, LA, Chicago, and San Francisco were specifically mentioned.
Ingka Centres’ move into city locations comes alongside furniture giant Ikea’s strategy shift towards smaller albeit more accessible inner-city stores with more digital and other services.  Along with its rivals, Ingka Centres has also increased the share of restaurants and entertainment at its centers in recent years to adapt to consumers’ online shift and a tougher retail landscape.

“We plan to build mixed-use facilities that we call meeting places and that have a wide range of facilities and services,” Groener said, adding activities could range from healthcare and education to festivals and events, besides retail and food.
St. Louis probably isn't high on their list...but our Ikea is smack dab in the center of the city...
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 815a6.html
My thought when reading the description in the article is right next door in the Foundry development.  Who knows, if Foundry flounders or struggles to get some traction after Covid their might a be a willing investor next door.

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PostMay 15, 2020#1090

Maybe they can suck up some of their massive parking lot or the North Silo Lot. How many truly urban Ikeas are there in the US with that much empty space around. Sky is the limit.

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PostMay 18, 2020#1091

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Maybe they can suck up some of their massive parking lot or the North Silo Lot. How many truly urban Ikeas are there in the US with that much empty space around. Sky is the limit.
In terms of surface parking, all of them. Atlanta's is the only one I've seen with a garage instead of surface parking, and there are a lot of new, large low-rise apartment buildings nearby, but the area it's in is more like a Brent-Maplewood.

In terms of development, the other urban stores are surrounded by free-standing and strip retail on vast parking lots, e.g. Philly, or surrounded by warehouse-distribution centers, e.g. Brooklyn and Newark.

St. Louis might already have the most "truly urban IKEA" in the US...

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PostMay 10, 2022#1092

"Ikea petitioned the state to slash the value of its local store from $75.7 million to $23.4 million because it said the store, which opened in 2015, was "functionally obsolete" and therefore overvalued. The company argued, in part, that it's building at Forest Park and Vandeventer avenues was "functionally obsolete the day the last coat of paint was put on and that the highest and best use of the property, Ikea said, was to demolish it. The company opened its 377,000-square-foot store here in 2015 after the city granted it $32 million in TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. The subsidy is part of the $168 million TIF city officials approved for the Cortex technology district in 2012."

https://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ikea-loses-bid-to-slash-st-louis-taxes/article_030c7666-ec72-54c1-8398-a57cc5a29651.html

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PostMay 10, 2022#1093

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"...the highest and best use of the property, Ikea said, was to demolish it..."
This almost feels too self-aware, almost as if they realize that acres and acres of parking isn't the best use of land in a central urban core.
That said, I like IKEA and think it's an overall benefit for the city and I realize business is business, they'd be foolish not to challenge the assessment.

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PostMay 10, 2022#1094

At least they're consistent; their furniture is also functionally obsolete as soon as it's assembled

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PostMay 11, 2022#1095

_nomad_ wrote:
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SRQ2STL wrote:
May 10, 2022
"...the highest and best use of the property, Ikea said, was to demolish it..."
This almost feels too self-aware, almost as if they realize that acres and acres of parking isn't the best use of land in a central urban core.
That said, I like IKEA and think it's an overall benefit for the city and I realize business is business, they'd be foolish not to challenge the assessment.
I confess, I won't mourn either the box or the asphalt when they chose to demolish them and build back less bad. But I do think they need to pay up, even if it's good business to avoid doing so as much as possible. It's also good civics to tax your stakeholders appropriately so that you can maintain a healthy city. (So it would be equally foolish for the city not to raise the assessment.)

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PostMay 11, 2022#1096

Likely just standard operating procedure for them to appeal their taxes. Some municipalities will bleed you dry with property taxes until you challenge it. STL is better than a lot of others.

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Post3:07 AM - Feb 15#1098

Possible reasons for the closing? No Nashville Ikea? 

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Post4:07 AM - Feb 15#1099

I'm not sure why they would close in Memphis, but I don't think the IKEA store in St. Louis is in any danger of closing. 

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Post4:48 AM - Feb 15#1100

At that square footage it'll make a great.... data center. 

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