Two massive projects were recently proposed for the Fox Park/McKinley Heights/Tower Grove East areas. The Fox Park Neighborhood Assoc held a vote on both projects last week. One is a rehab project led by RISE, the other a massive new home construction project by C.F. Vatterott. I'll be following these and posting more info as it comes in. The first one from RISE is a no brainer, the second will required transparency, honesty and diligence to hold Vatterott to building new homes in a historic neighborhood. Stay tuned.
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All of that sounds of very good news for a area that i feel holds great value in the city specially not being far from downtown so i hope both the rehab & new construction can get approval all of Saint.Louis City needs as much rehab & new construction as possible but not just anything though we dealt with status quo for far too long..
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I look forward to hearing more about the Vatterott project.
So how is the battle with the meatheads who trash everything in the park going?
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We are trying to fight Concentrating poverty in fox park and south city Please sign this petition. BTW the developer dose not even cut the grass on the vacant lots they own
https://www.change.org/p/frank-quagrain ... city-homes
https://www.change.org/p/frank-quagrain ... city-homes
Minor clarification - the neighborhood association held a vote on if we felt Alderwoman Christine Ingrassia should write a letter of support in favor of both project's requests for Low Income Housing Tax Credits.Mark Groth wrote:The Fox Park Neighborhood Assoc held a vote on both projects last week.
Even if the tax credits are granted (which is not very likely, IMO, especially for the Vatterott proposal), there are many more steps before either project becomes a reality.
Greg
Does anyone actually know where these will be built? All I can find out is that there's 11 single family homes, 5 duplexes, and 1 triplex. I'd really like to know what streets and what models of houses they are looking at. There's already plenty low-income (and some public) housing in the neighborhood which hasn't cause many problems so I don't care about that but I don't want a bunch of Gate District style vinyl mistakes going up.
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I'm working on getting the info together for both proposals and will post soon.
Well I still haven't found much about where the new houses will be (apparently in the northeast of Fox Park/Mckinley Heights) but I did find the locations of all the rehabbed housing the southern part of the neighborhood here http://www.scribd.com/doc/237992092/RIS ... -Breakdown and it sounds like an amazing improvement four our neighborhood. The plans show rehabbing of many vacant properties that I've long worried about being demolished and I'm encouraged by the fact that they are going to keep most of it high density rather than converting two and four families into single family homes. I'm also encouraged by the prospect of housing Nepalese immigrants there, currently Fox Park in large part lacks immigrants that the neighborhoods south of it have. All around great project, more information here:
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I think nextstl has the story on the RISE project that hope to tackle properties in Fox Park & TGE.... it looks like a home run to me!
http://nextstl.com/2014/09/fox-park-2/
http://nextstl.com/2014/09/fox-park-2/
The RISE proposal was awarded the LIHTCs that they were seeking. Great news for my neighborhood!
Sadly, one of the buildings in the project -- 3114-16 Arsenal -- caught fire last night and partially collapsed. Squatters trying to keep warm are suspected of being the cause.
From the pictures I have seen, this building will likely be demolished in the near future due to instability. I don't know what this will do to the overall project.
From the pictures I have seen, this building will likely be demolished in the near future due to instability. I don't know what this will do to the overall project.
I know nothing about this Fox Park project or the fire, and I'm not making any sort of correlation or accusation here, but you know what it brought to mind? I remember living in Shaw in the early 2000's when McRee Town was still McRee Town and not the mess of plastic homes that it is now and there were constantly fires over there in the original housing stock. I'm totally not a conspiracy theorist kind of guy, but I couldn't help but to wonder.
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^ i think a Church is doing the fox park project as housing for immigrants.
^Well... Maybe they're a satanic church of pyromaniac, real-estate conspiracy desperadoes that are exploiting immigrants for their own satanic and monetary gains? LOL, kidding, kidding... Sorry, should've kept my mouth shut instead of waxing nostalgically about my bygone days in Shaw.
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The front wall on that building has been increasingly bulging for at least the 10 years I've lived in South City. I always kind of wondered when it was going to fall on its own. Hopefully it can be rebuilt if the numbers still work for the project...
gregl wrote:Sadly, one of the buildings in the project -- 3114-16 Arsenal -- caught fire last night and partially collapsed. Squatters trying to keep warm are suspected of being the cause.
From the pictures I have seen, this building will likely be demolished in the near future due to instability. I don't know what this will do to the overall project.

-RBB
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This is actually Tower Grove East...not that it matters, just saying it is not technically in Fox Park.
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^ Has this Immigrant Housing project broken ground yet? Does anyone have any update on it? Sounds like an awesome way to bring some of the worst buildings in a decent area back to life.
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^ I believe it is indeed progressing... iirc many/most of the homes have been acquired and some permits already issued.
h/t from Peter, Here's a pic from DeSales Housing Corp. on the new construction multi-family on Ohio that was part of the Impact 2014 project:
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unfortunately some historics like the one below were demolished as part of the project but it looks like what replaced them is solid.
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Some of the rehabs are still underway but it looks like the project is mostly done.

unfortunately some historics like the one below were demolished as part of the project but it looks like what replaced them is solid.

Some of the rehabs are still underway but it looks like the project is mostly done.
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This one still looks pretty bad.rbb wrote:gregl wrote:Sadly, one of the buildings in the project -- 3114-16 Arsenal -- caught fire last night and partially collapsed. Squatters trying to keep warm are suspected of being the cause.
From the pictures I have seen, this building will likely be demolished in the near future due to instability. I don't know what this will do to the overall project.
-RBB
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^ I do see from records that the sale from LRA to the developer did go through after the fire and that a permit for stabilization was issued in August.... so it looks like the plan still is to rehab.
(Meanwhile, over in CWE, there is what seems to be an almost total repair to a fire damaged house on Laclede and Boyle underway. Interesting to see the rear from Boyle.)
(Meanwhile, over in CWE, there is what seems to be an almost total repair to a fire damaged house on Laclede and Boyle underway. Interesting to see the rear from Boyle.)







