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PostFeb 09, 2014#76

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This is all hypothetical, but the talk got me curious of a University of Illinois at East St. Louis. I thought about whether the idea could be at all realistic.

And then I think about trajectory of Illinois' tuition in the past decade and the fact that the state can't afford to pay U of I the money it's owed in the budget.

Let's assume a new campus at East St. Louis was well run and attracted a good student body. Is that a money-maker or a money hog? In other words, would running (let's not worry about the initial costs of a establishing a campus for the sake of this discussion) be something feasible under the current financial state?

Just curious. As a U of I alumni (Urbana), I'd love to the University have a campus in the St. Louis area.
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PostFeb 09, 2014#77

jstriebel wrote:^

This is all hypothetical, but the talk got me curious of a University of Illinois at East St. Louis. I thought about whether the idea could be at all realistic.

And then I think about trajectory of Illinois' tuition in the past decade and the fact that the state can't afford to pay U of I the money it's owed in the budget.

Let's assume a new campus at East St. Louis was well run and attracted a good student body. Is that a money-maker or a money hog? In other words, would running (let's not worry about the initial costs of a establishing a campus for the sake of this discussion) be something feasible under the current financial state?
How well do you think recruiting new students and faculty to a U of I @ ESTL campus would go over? It's not exactly an overly desirable location. No doubt, this would go over swimmingly with parents that are footing the bill.

My dad is an alumnus and I was accepted to attend, so I have good feelings for the school. But this seems a bit far-fetched. A satellite like SIU has, perhaps -- but not a true campus.
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PostFeb 09, 2014#78

Oh, I agree. I'm just saying hypothetically lets say it's a desirable campus.

I suppose I'm asking, do good state universities make money or is the whole thing a losing endeavor at this point?
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PostFeb 10, 2014#79

The best comparison to a hypothetical UIESL would be, in my mind, Rutgers-Camden. The comparisons are obvious: A "secondary" school of a major and respected (future) Big Ten member in a poor and rough city located across state lines from the region's major hub.

For reference, RU-Camden has roughly 4,500 undergrads with 600 of those living on campus and an additional 1,500 or so graduate students. Unfortunately, the economic impact page that I clicked on could not be found, but I would suggest that RU-Camden would be an ideal starting point for such research.

Looking at the big picture though, the University of Minnesota (another comparable institution) answers your question of if good state schools are an economic gain to the state in the affirmative: http://impact.umn.edu.

Then again, Minnesota isn't as ****ed up as Illinois is.
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PostFeb 27, 2014#80

This reminds me of Parks College and Cahokia, IL. The town really took a hit once the college relocated. They're still trying to figure ways to use the remaining buildings and Parks has been gone since 1997.
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PostApr 16, 2014#81

innov8ion wrote: But this seems a bit far-fetched. A satellite like SIU has, perhaps -- but not a true campus.
They already have one.
https://www.siue.edu/eslc/
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