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PostNov 18, 2021#626

Stl Public Radio - St. Louis community leaders kick off 3-year Delmar Boulevard revitalization project

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/economy ... on-project

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PostNov 18, 2021#627

quincunx wrote:Stl Public Radio - St. Louis community leaders kick off 3-year Delmar Boulevard revitalization project

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/economy ... on-project
I’m hopeful about this


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PostNov 22, 2021#628

This long-vacant single-story building just north of Delmar is undergoing rehab. No idea what's going in, but it's good to see it come back to life. 


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PostNov 22, 2021#629

framer wrote:This long-vacant single-story building just north of Delmar is undergoing rehab. No idea what's going in, but it's good to see it come back to life. 

Happy to see some Loop activity slowly creeping north on Skinker. Eventually, the whole WashU North campus should be redeveloped.


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PostJan 13, 2022#630

A single story drive thru no dine-in Imo's is proposed for the southeast corner of Delmar and DeGiverville. They purchased the lot in May. Does anyone know if the SDCC took any action on supporting the variances it needs at the meeting Jan 10th? Was the meeting held? I tried to attend, but the neighborhood events calendar and email  disagreed as to the time and platform. 

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PostJan 13, 2022#631

quincunx wrote:
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A single story drive thru no dine-in Imo's is proposed for the southeast corner of Delmar and DeGiverville. They purchased the lot in May. Does anyone know if the SDCC took any action on supporting the variances it needs at the meeting Jan 10th? Was the meeting held? I tried to attend, but the neighborhood events calendar and email  disagreed as to the time and platform. 
Thought this parcel was owned by Wash U.  There goes my hope for dense TOD on this site.  Why Imo's would have no dine-in at this location is baffling.

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PostJan 13, 2022#632

STLinCHI wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
quincunx wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
A single story drive thru no dine-in Imo's is proposed for the southeast corner of Delmar and DeGiverville. They purchased the lot in May. Does anyone know if the SDCC took any action on supporting the variances it needs at the meeting Jan 10th? Was the meeting held? I tried to attend, but the neighborhood events calendar and email  disagreed as to the time and platform. 
Thought this parcel was owned by Wash U.  There goes my hope for dense TOD on this site.  Why Imo's would have no dine-in at this location is baffling.
It was owned by Joe Edwards

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PostJan 13, 2022#633

quincunx wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
A single story drive thru no dine-in Imo's is proposed for the southeast corner of Delmar and DeGiverville. They purchased the lot in May. Does anyone know if the SDCC took any action on supporting the variances it needs at the meeting Jan 10th? Was the meeting held? I tried to attend, but the neighborhood events calendar and email  disagreed as to the time and platform. 
The last significant proposal SDCC considered was a 14-story, 140-unit, 327-bed mixed-use apartment building. It will be interesting to see how they approach the polar opposite.

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PostJan 13, 2022#634

quincunx wrote:
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STLinCHI wrote:
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quincunx wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
A single story drive thru no dine-in Imo's is proposed for the southeast corner of Delmar and DeGiverville. They purchased the lot in May. Does anyone know if the SDCC took any action on supporting the variances it needs at the meeting Jan 10th? Was the meeting held? I tried to attend, but the neighborhood events calendar and email  disagreed as to the time and platform. 
Thought this parcel was owned by Wash U.  There goes my hope for dense TOD on this site.  Why Imo's would have no dine-in at this location is baffling.
It was owned by Joe Edwards
Wow.  Wonder if Joe is trying to get STL "known" brands in the mix.  Ted Drews next?  Ride the Trolley and experience all the STLisms.  Imo's/Delmar should at least have a slice window or preferably a walk-up counter (with outside seating).  If it's strictly drive-thru I'll be flummoxed.

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PostJan 13, 2022#635

^Maybe he's just tired and short of cash because Covid is screwing the entire entertainment industry up one side and down the other. Maybe he's frustrated and depressed because he really believed in the Loop Trolley and he's watching it burn as half the town throws gasoline on the thing. (He hasn't missed many, but if that one hasn't completely struck out it's an 0-2 count late in a late in the game with nobody on where the home team is down by several.) I do not like the idea of a drive through on that lot, but I have a hard time condemning someone who has done so much for our town.

All of which said . . . lord, we do not need a drive through quick-service car-oriented dump on that lot. (With zesty pizza cheese, most likely.)

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PostJan 13, 2022#636

Does Imo's have any drive thrus presently? I've never seen a pizzeria like that. 

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PostJan 13, 2022#637

PeterXCV wrote:Does Imo's have any drive thrus presently? I've never seen a pizzeria like that. 
I know of at least two: TGS and Oakville. Domino's also has several.

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PostJan 13, 2022#638

STLinCHI wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
quincunx wrote:
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STLinCHI wrote:
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Thought this parcel was owned by Wash U.  There goes my hope for dense TOD on this site.  Why Imo's would have no dine-in at this location is baffling.
It was owned by Joe Edwards
Wow.  Wonder if Joe is trying to get STL "known" brands in the mix.  Ted Drews next?  Ride the Trolley and experience all the STLisms.  Imo's/Delmar should at least have a slice window or preferably a walk-up counter (with outside seating).  If it's strictly drive-thru I'll be flummoxed.
There is a patio for outdoor dining right next to the drive thru.

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PeterXCV wrote:
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Does Imo's have any drive thrus presently? I've never seen a pizzeria like that. 
You order online/app and pick it up with your car. So I guess instead of idling in the drive thru, you'll idle nearby waiting for the notification.

PostJan 13, 2022#640

If you're not a fan let the SDCC and Ald Clark-Hubbard know. If it goes to the Board of Adjustment let them know too.

This goes against the Delmar Link redevelopment ordinance (no drive thrus and lack of indoor dining), the Neighborhood plan, the TOD plan, the draft form based code. And maybe current zoning too(I need to look into that again).

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PostJan 13, 2022#641

quincunx wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
PeterXCV wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
Does Imo's have any drive thrus presently? I've never seen a pizzeria like that. 
You order online/app and pick it up with your car. So I guess instead of idling in the drive thru, you'll idle nearby waiting for the notification.
Wow that sounds so bleak.

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PostJan 13, 2022#642

PeterXCV wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
Does Imo's have any drive thrus presently? I've never seen a pizzeria like that. 
I know Oakville and Hampton both have drive-thru pickup windows, but I don't think you can place the order there like a Jack in The Box classic fast food style.  I've called to place orders for pickup and then drove to the window before though.

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PostJan 13, 2022#643

quincunx wrote:If you're not a fan let the SDCC and Ald Clark-Hubbard know. If it goes to the Board of Adjustment let them know too.

This goes against the Delmar Link redevelopment ordinance (no drive thrus and lack of indoor dining), the Neighborhood plan, the TOD plan, the draft form based code. And maybe current zoning too(I need to look into that again).
I’m surprised non of the SD NIMBYs haven’t blown this development up. There should be indoor/ outdoor dining.


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PostJan 13, 2022#644

The SDCC voted to support the Imo's at their Jan 10th meeting.

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PostJan 13, 2022#645

Mapguy wrote:
quincunx wrote:If you're not a fan let the SDCC and Ald Clark-Hubbard know. If it goes to the Board of Adjustment let them know too.

This goes against the Delmar Link redevelopment ordinance (no drive thrus and lack of indoor dining), the Neighborhood plan, the TOD plan, the draft form based code. And maybe current zoning too(I need to look into that again).
I’m surprised non of the SD NIMBYs haven’t blown this development up. There should be indoor/ outdoor dining.


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It won’t take their precious parking so they are cool with it.

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PostJan 13, 2022#646

quincunx wrote:The SDCC voted to support the Imo's at their Jan 10th meeting.
Ouch. Turning down 14 story residential and approving pizza drive thrus. There goes the “we don’t want more cars around here” argument for the 14 story residential. Frustrating.


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PostJan 13, 2022#647

quincunx wrote:
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The SDCC voted to support the Imo's at their Jan 10th meeting.
Makes me wonder if they'd support a proposal for a Church's Chicken on the SE corner of Delmar & Skinker.

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PostJan 13, 2022#648

Gotta love how backwards the organization and it’s members are. Shoot down a great apartment proposal by a developer that gets stuff done by calling WashU students “transients” then turns around and approves an Imos Pizza, which will almost certainly draw transients and beggars.

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PostJan 13, 2022#649

LArchitecture wrote:
Mapguy wrote:
quincunx wrote:If you're not a fan let the SDCC and Ald Clark-Hubbard know. If it goes to the Board of Adjustment let them know too.

This goes against the Delmar Link redevelopment ordinance (no drive thrus and lack of indoor dining), the Neighborhood plan, the TOD plan, the draft form based code. And maybe current zoning too(I need to look into that again).
I’m surprised non of the SD NIMBYs haven’t blown this development up. There should be indoor/ outdoor dining.


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It won’t take their precious parking so they are cool with it.
😆so true!


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PostJan 14, 2022#650

chriss752 wrote:Gotta love how backwards the organization and it’s members are. Shoot down a great apartment proposal by a developer that gets stuff done by calling WashU students “transients” then turns around and approves an Imos Pizza, which will almost certainly draw transients and beggars.
This is exactly why I emailed them as a resident to put me on every development committee possible. We can’t trust them to make good decisions so we (if you live in the neighborhood) have to get involved and get on these boards. The decisions being made are very short sighted and often times selfish.

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