Residential tower? St. Louis or the suburbs?
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^ somebody tried to get him to bite on if it was in the city... no go. One of the other stories he said was coming up was a West County corporate expansion which will result in more jobs.... sounded like story that was next.
So did they buy the Lambskin Temple and/or Calvary Christian Center, or just the residential units?wuphys wrote:I haven't seen this posted anywhere, so I figured I'd put it out there. Not sure what, if anything, it means...
According to the city assessor's website, Drury Development Corp. purchased the group of properties for sale along Kingshighway (north of Oakland and south of 40) and the western edge of the 4500 block of Oakland for $1.675 million on April 9th. When the towers were proposed a few years ago the thinking was that these parcels would be necessary to create an access directly from Kingshighway.
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I think he said it was this weekend.roger wyoming II wrote:^ I see his shameless tease was for a 'huge apartment tower item" and that he'll probably have a story or two before, so maybe nothing this week.
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^I think the timing might involve waiting for renderings. That kind of wait can be unpredictable.
Lambskin is owned by Austin Barzantny of Grove Properties. Drury owns the church building to the north and most of the houses to the south on Kingshighway.rbb wrote:So did they buy the Lambskin Temple and/or Calvary Christian Center, or just the residential units? -RBB
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-They better not tear down that temple of all buildings.
-The tower proposal better be in the City, whether it's a Drury tower at this site or otherwise.
-The tower proposal better be in the City, whether it's a Drury tower at this site or otherwise.
Thanks sir.Presbyterian wrote:Lambskin is owned by Austin Barzantny of Grove Properties. Drury owns the church building to the north and most of the houses to the south on Kingshighway.rbb wrote:So did they buy the Lambskin Temple and/or Calvary Christian Center, or just the residential units? -RBB
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Somewhat related to the possible revival of the Drury hotel(s) proposal, I see the proposed Hilton site at Taylor & Choteau has been graded and fenced. But it doesn't look like a permit for construction has been issued yet.
The good money is on Grand Center.Presbyterian wrote:^I think the timing might involve waiting for renderings. That kind of wait can be unpredictable.
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Grand Center? Would be cool if it were that 30 story proposal from awhile back for where the sculpture park is! But I think that was SLU student housing, wasn't it? Do they have a need to build that? Besides, The MO Theater building will absorb a lot of Grand Center's demand.
If the new tower is going to be in Grand Center, my head would literally explode. Something on the magnitude of 30 stories would change the Midtown skyline in a big way.
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^ If GC does get a tower, I'd love to see a contemporary twin gracefully complimenting the Continental Life Building.... it looks like that beauty is 22 stories and 286'. I have no idea why I didn't know Ittner was the architect. Anyway, a tower would be an amazing development for GC, but not entirely unexpected as Lawrence Group was already floating new construction.
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The tower proposed a few years ago looked like the Senior Tower but taller and was accompanied by another tower that was about 15 stories. I would like to see the 30 story tower at the sculpture park and the 15 story tower across the street instead of the fountain instead, though.
It would be amazing if GC got the tower. It makes a lot of sense though. Its probably easier to find and put together the land for a bigger project in that area compared to downtown or CWE or clayton. From a city planning perspective, downtown needs to be connected and contiguous with more vibrant areas. Unless we tear down 64 and 44, downtown will never connect well with soulard so really the only option is to fill in the space between cwe/midtown and downtown as quickly as possible.
I've long said that midtown from grand to about 18th is destined to one day be home to a pretty neat highrise district once the city turns around. Never thought we could potentially see it happen so soon.
I've long said that midtown from grand to about 18th is destined to one day be home to a pretty neat highrise district once the city turns around. Never thought we could potentially see it happen so soon.
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Heres a question is all of this talk or is it legit that GC will indeed get a 30 story tower or somewhere in that vicinity ?
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I would expect to see some mid-rise projects in Grand Center in the next few years.
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Heck, I'd just like to see small projects like the Art House come to fruition.Presbyterian wrote:I would expect to see some mid-rise projects in Grand Center in the next few years.
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I think mid-rise is a good bet for GC... Lawrence Group potentially could be announcing something anytime for the Missouri Theater block. But I'd be surprised by a true tower at this stage.Presbyterian wrote:I would expect to see some mid-rise projects in Grand Center in the next few years.
Back to the Drury site in FPSE, nextstl has a short piece up that the new purchases do mean a hotel(s) is back in play although nothing new on design, timeline, etc. Drury will be renovating some of the housing stock they own as well.
Whatever they build in fpse, I hope:
1. that the surface parking is limited and that they incorporate it it the structure somehow
2. Do not impede the pathway to the walking bridge and in fact open up the hotel to that path so that customers can use it to get to the medical center and metrolink
3. Not use their general brown color scheme. It looks ok in the suburbs where there is not a lot of brick but I'd like to see something much flashier and high end given the site's prominent location from the highway, from forest park, and from the medical center. This would also be a site for some signiture architecture. I'd like to see something better than those two ugly generic towers for the next iteration.
1. that the surface parking is limited and that they incorporate it it the structure somehow
2. Do not impede the pathway to the walking bridge and in fact open up the hotel to that path so that customers can use it to get to the medical center and metrolink
3. Not use their general brown color scheme. It looks ok in the suburbs where there is not a lot of brick but I'd like to see something much flashier and high end given the site's prominent location from the highway, from forest park, and from the medical center. This would also be a site for some signiture architecture. I'd like to see something better than those two ugly generic towers for the next iteration.
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The challenge with Drury is that they do fantastic renovations but poor new construction. Their designs are sort of caught in 1990, and they don't typically do a good job of addressing the street. I suspect the alderman will be the only one who can deliver on a better design for this site. He can block or facilitate this project, which gives him leverage.
1) Incorporated parking seems to be a common use. Both the Chesterfield and still-under-construction Brentwood locations have attached garages.JuanHamez wrote:Whatever they build in fpse, I hope:
1. that the surface parking is limited and that they incorporate it it the structure somehow
2. Do not impede the pathway to the walking bridge and in fact open up the hotel to that path so that customers can use it to get to the medical center and metrolink
3. Not use their general brown color scheme. It looks ok in the suburbs where there is not a lot of brick but I'd like to see something much flashier and high end given the site's prominent location from the highway, from forest park, and from the medical center. This would also be a site for some signiture architecture. I'd like to see something better than those two ugly generic towers for the next iteration.
2) I don't see why and how they'd cut off access.
3) That's my biggest fear: that they'll just drop one of their already existing suburban designs in this spot. We can't afford an even bigger version of the Aventura cr*pfest.
The new Drury designs might be generic and uninspired, but they're a whole lot better than Aventura. To find an Aventura level of design in a hotel you have to go down the street to the Home2Suites.
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Like I said in another thread, the Home2 looks a lot better in person.wabash wrote:The new Drury designs might be generic and uninspired, but they're a whole lot better than Aventura. To find an Aventura level of design in a hotel you have to go down the street to the Home2Suites.
I really don't see how the Home2 is that bad. It looks generic urban to me as opposed to generic suburban. Generic is generic, but I just don't think Home2 is that bad.
I also don't think the Drury's are that bad. They're more just generic classic if I continue in my line of sub generics.
Ideally, though, we get something that isn't generic at all.
I also don't think the Drury's are that bad. They're more just generic classic if I continue in my line of sub generics.
Ideally, though, we get something that isn't generic at all.