I've heard the schnucks is one of the oldest in the chain, yet I happen to think the Des Peres store is one of the nicest. The store was remodeled this decade, I don't see why they are in such a hurry to move. I guess we can look forward more traffic at ballas/manchester/270 thanks to this and the EJ expansion as well as several closed storefronts just to the east. Where the heck would Schnucks have tried to move out of Des Peres anyway?
Moorlander wrote:I've heard the schnucks is one of the oldest in the chain, yet I happen to think the Des Peres store is one of the nicest. The store was remodeled this decade, I don't see why they are in such a hurry to move. I guess we can look forward more traffic at ballas/manchester/270 thanks to this and the EJ expansion as well as several closed storefronts just to the east. Where the heck would Schnucks have tried to move out of Des Peres anyway?
I don't know.
If I were Des Peres I wouldn't have been scared. If Schnucks would have closed that store and not re-opened in a new location, they could have easily attracted Dierbergs, Straubs or Whole Foods to that spot.
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Dierbergs can't move into the area because Schnucks development arm, Desco owns much of the property along Manchester to specifically keep Dierbergs out.
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If Des Peres were smart, they would have required a plan for what will be done with the current Schnucks location and make the redevelopment of that area contingent on approval of the new store. As it now stands, the current Schnucks will become a vacant store for who knows how many years.
Anybody remember the pedestrian issues at Loughborough Commons that Urban Review STL covered so well? Well, it seems those same issues are now present at Des Peres Corners, as well. Some of the stores at Des Peres Corners began opening this week. I've written a post on my blog at Gateway Streets describing the issues.
Yay for developers who completely ignore pedestrians!
Yay for developers who completely ignore pedestrians!
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Wow that looks awful.. What a shame.
Look for Jimmy Johns and 5 Guys and Fries to open there soon.
Wow that looks awful.. What a shame.
Look for Jimmy Johns and 5 Guys and Fries to open there soon.
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Moorlander wrote:^
Wow that looks awful.. What a shame.
Look for Jimmy Johns and 5 Guys and Fries to open there soon.
There's a credit union going in too.
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Moorlander wrote:Look for Jimmy Johns and 5 Guys and Fries to open there soon.
This development looks every bit as detestable as Loughborough Commons which is mere blocks from my home, but since I still use it, I wish I had Jimmy Johns and Five Guys so close to home instead of Burger King and Little Caesar's.
/Did I just become a chain snob?
Mill204 wrote:Anybody remember the pedestrian issues at Loughborough Commons that Urban Review STL covered so well? Well, it seems those same issues are now present at Des Peres Corners, as well. Some of the stores at Des Peres Corners began opening this week. I've written a post on my blog at Gateway Streets describing the issues.
Yay for developers who completely ignore pedestrians!
Let's not forget that West County Mall is pretty much inaccessable by pedestrians. Supposedly on a nice day Edward Jones employees can't even walk over to the mall for lunch
Technically, they can, but its a very long walk to get to the one and only ped entrance to the mall at the south end of Ballas Rd.dweebe wrote:Let's not forget that West County Mall is pretty much inaccessable by pedestrians. Supposedly on a nice day Edward Jones employees can't even walk over to the mall for lunchMill204 wrote:Anybody remember the pedestrian issues at Loughborough Commons that Urban Review STL covered so well? Well, it seems those same issues are now present at Des Peres Corners, as well. Some of the stores at Des Peres Corners began opening this week. I've written a post on my blog at Gateway Streets describing the issues.
Yay for developers who completely ignore pedestrians!
The inaccessibility of area malls is a topic I plan to cover on my blog in the coming weeks.
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I put a post on my blog Gateway Streets regarding the inaccessibility of West County Center. It's the second in a four-part series. The first part focused on the Saint Louis Galleria.Mill204 wrote:Technically, they can, but its a very long walk to get to the one and only ped entrance to the mall at the south end of Ballas Rd.dweebe wrote:Let's not forget that West County Mall is pretty much inaccessable by pedestrians. Supposedly on a nice day Edward Jones employees can't even walk over to the mall for lunch
The inaccessibility of area malls is a topic I plan to cover on my blog in the coming weeks.
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Tuesday I plopped down on the leather sofa in front of the fireplace and watched the Cardinal baseball game. I was upstairs at the new Des Peres Schnucks store at the time.
Better than I expected. Walk-in referigerated wine and cheese area with automatic doors. Another one for cold beer.
The cafe area has a pizza bar, and you can take food to a lot of places to consume, including the upstairs balcony with tables, chairs, fireplace, sofa, TV.
Better than I expected. Walk-in referigerated wine and cheese area with automatic doors. Another one for cold beer.
The cafe area has a pizza bar, and you can take food to a lot of places to consume, including the upstairs balcony with tables, chairs, fireplace, sofa, TV.
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It really is a nice store.
I've heard there are redevelopment plans for the old Des Peres store as well.
It really is a nice store.
I've heard there are redevelopment plans for the old Des Peres store as well.
DeBaliviere wrote:^It really is a nice store.
Given that a lot of the Schnucks family lives within 5 minutes, you'd figure this store would get all tricked out with the best stuff.
DeBaliviere wrote:I've heard there are redevelopment plans for the old Des Peres store as well.
Given Schnucks'/Desco's past history I assume its not a grocery store?
Yes, just what Manchester Rd needs: more empty retail space. [/sarcasm]
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dweebe wrote:Given Schnucks'/Desco's past history I assume its not a grocery store?
Yes, just what Manchester Rd needs: more empty retail space. [/sarcasm]
Restaurants. The existing building is going to be torn down, IIRC.
I've also heard about a major retailer that's considering the old Schnucks location. Can't divulge who it is though.
DeBaliviere wrote:I've also heard about a major retailer that's considering the old Schnucks location. Can't divulge who it is though.
***cough*** Target?
In this morning's Post-Dispatch, there was a mention that they were trying to put two unnamed retail stores and a sit-down restaurant into the area that Schnuck's use to occupy. It also mentioned that Chick-Fil-A was interested in opening a location there, too.
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dweebe wrote:DeBaliviere wrote:I've also heard about a major retailer that's considering the old Schnucks location. Can't divulge who it is though.
***cough*** Target?
Was it Michael's?
http://tinyurl.com/2fggy7nMichael's will take up about about 23,000 square feet of the almost 58,000-square-foot old Schnucks building. The remainder of the space will go for another junior anchor and smaller retail and restaurant businesses.
Mosaic, a popular restaurant downtown, wants to open a place at the eastern end of Des Peres Centre, Holman said. The development will also feature a free-standing Chick-Fil-A. Existing businesses at the site will have the opportunity to stay. Businesses still operating during construction are Cartridge World, a UPS Store and a Nail Salon.
Looks like Mosaic, Michael's, and Chick-fil-a could be opening in the not too distant future.
Michael's? Are we about to have another round of Manchester Road Musical Chairs?
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