According to Landmarks Association of St. Louis via Facebook.

f*ck.

Do we know what for?

Mound City wrote:Do we know what for?

Is it possibly cost-prohibitive to reuse the church? Seems like a fair question, why wouldn't they reuse it?

http://archstl.org/archives/closedparis ... idget-erin
http://www.romeofthewest.com/2009/05/ph ... ch-in.html

In a world filled with too much social media and not enough actual human involvement, word is getting out via Facebook and presumably other computer networks that the demolition of St. Bridget Erin Church has begun.

Demo started today

Northside Neighbor wrote:In a world filled with too much social media and not enough actual human involvement, word is getting out via Facebook and presumably other computer networks that the demolition of St. Bridget Erin Church has begun.

the same world where a particular alderperson shrugs Preservation Review allowing any property owner to secretly obtain a demolition permit with no oversight before any other humans know about, much less have an opportunity to do anything.

the same world where a particular alderperson shrugs Preservation Review allowing any property owner to secretly obtain a demolition permit with no oversight before any other humans know about, much less have an opportunity to do anything.

Oh, please.

The lack of preservation review in the 5th Ward has been well known for years.

Which is why it's needed to change for years. You can't just say that the system is bad as an excuse for the system being bad. The city needs a unified Preservation Review system where Aldermen/women can't opt out.

Just need an alderman to write the bill and get it passed by the Board of Aldermen.

What an unbelievable failure of thought. Preservation review aside, what kind of school admin considers something like this? I am sure with demo costs there is no way this is the most efficient or economical way of expansion.

I am not sure what the community could have done though, property rights rule, schools are considered sacred, not enough local community to raise awareness, kept quite to keep the preservation community from organizing a response. If the alderman is on board do what you want

As an aside why is it that education and healthcare administrations seem magnets for troglodytes? The worst ideas for land use and planning seem to originate there and the hubris of the mission makes the process or bad idea beyond reproach.

As an aside why is it that education and healthcare administrations seem magnets for troglodytes? The worst ideas for land use and planning seem to originate there and the hubris of the mission makes the process or bad idea beyond reproach.

You forgot faith-based. When it comes to hubris about mission, what trumps a faith-based organization?

And just look at the stewardship of these organizations when it comes to their buildings:

St. Aloysius, Bethlehem Lutheran, St. Bridget, 4th Baptist and these are just the latest.

But remember: they're on a mission from gawd.

Northside Neighbor wrote:

As an aside why is it that education and healthcare administrations seem magnets for troglodytes? The worst ideas for land use and planning seem to originate there and the hubris of the mission makes the process or bad idea beyond reproach.

You forgot faith-based. When it comes to hubris about mission, what trumps a faith-based organization?

And just look at the stewardship of these organizations when it comes to their buildings:

St. Aloysius, Bethlehem Lutheran, St. Bridget, 4th Baptist and these are just the latest.

But remember: they're on a mission from gawd.

Completes the trifecta

Northside Neighbor wrote:

As an aside why is it that education and healthcare administrations seem magnets for troglodytes? The worst ideas for land use and planning seem to originate there and the hubris of the mission makes the process or bad idea beyond reproach.

You forgot faith-based. When it comes to hubris about mission, what trumps a faith-based organization?

And just look at the stewardship of these organizations when it comes to their buildings:

St. Aloysius, Bethlehem Lutheran, St. Bridget, 4th Baptist and these are just the latest.

But remember: they're on a mission from gawd.

actually most of those cases were more apathy than hubris - but the result is the same

STL Today is running a story about this demolition today. People are weighing with shock and dismay.

From their perches across the region.

I wonder how many wrote a personal check to groups like ONSLRG, JVL Initiative, Landmarks Association of St. Louis, St. Bridget's of Erin Memorial Fund, etc.

Um, none probably.

But get on a bandwagon, deriding the city's lack of saving this building, sure feels good.

This angers me and saddens me. A charter school is tearing down a beautiful piece of our City's history and using tax dollars to do it. The system is broken.

^^ for the love of god, give it a rest. THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS DEMOLITION because the charter school owned it for years, kept it up, and then suddenly demolished it. they wouldn't even allow Landmarks to go inside and document photographically before they started ripping it down, probably to avoid exposure. this one is a result of bad policy—policy that can't be changed in the course of 3 weeks since your response is predictable—and a negligent alderwoman.

The level of righteous indignation on this case is deafening. I wonder what was demolished to create the Pruitt Igoe site next door to this church? Oh, I think I know. It was the neighborhood where the parishioners once lived who populated the pews in this church every Sunday. That's right, the neighborhood - and St. Bridget's "parish" - died. The people moved away and they tore it down. It just took another fifty years to get to the church. Drive around the north side in wrecked neighborhoods. It usually is the church that is the last to go.

This was a handsome, prominent, solid building which was built before the Civil War. Such a damn shame.

Is NN an alderperson?