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PostJun 03, 2011#1

I Didn't see a thread for building 9.




Great news for the red brick mama.  These old red brick Cupples buildings really are a treasure and look gorgeous with a little ($30m) TLC.  It's great to see Osborn and Barr kick off the development by signing a multi year lease for 45% of the property.  They may be moving from neighboring Cupples 8, but they are a growing company that needs more space.  Read more about the project here:

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... oject.html

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PostJun 03, 2011#2

Wow that was fast. Great news. Another one off the list. Getting closer and closer to new construction!

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PostJun 03, 2011#3

Sweet!

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PostJun 03, 2011#4

While BPV still waits to be built, it's nice to see Cupples Station take the leap. It in itself could grow into what BPV is supposed to become.

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PostJun 03, 2011#5

^Couldn't agree more. Cupples station is shaping up to become a great mixed-use pocket of downtown.

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PostJun 03, 2011#6

Which building is this? The one closest to the metro stop?

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PostJun 03, 2011#7

wabash wrote:^Couldn't agree more. Cupples station is shaping up to become a great mixed-use pocket of downtown.
yeah not bad as it essentially is an isolated island... with all the 64 infrastructure, parking lots and garages and the fortified Fed Building and useless park across the street it has some location issues for sure.

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downtown2007 wrote:Which building is this? The one closest to the metro stop?
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=spruce%20 ... =en&tab=wl

sorry for the bad link... I'm was trying to show 900 Spruce. I've got no skillz.

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PostJun 03, 2011#9

Roger Wyoming wrote:
downtown2007 wrote:Which building is this? The one closest to the metro stop?
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=spruce%20 ... =en&tab=wl
The surface parking lot next to the Westin and metrolink station is begging for a slender office tower.
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wabash wrote:^Couldn't agree more. Cupples station is shaping up to become a great mixed-use pocket of downtown.
yeah not bad as it essentially is an isolated island... with all the 64 infrastructure, parking lots and garages and the fortified Fed Building and useless park across the street it has some location issues for sure.
I don't really think of the area as an isolated island, yes, next to I64 way too much parking at the moment but that defines the entire St. Louis region. But your litterally within easy walking distance to the intermodal train/bus station, next to a metrolink station, two stadiums, easy walk to Gateway Mall/Peabody Opera house or the homegrown ballpark bars and so forth. Next stop, Greenway rips up there surface parking lot and build a sportsfield/diamonds until the Chouteau Greenway can be funded. If anything, this area is starting to excel because people can get to it.

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PostJun 03, 2011#10

Roger Wyoming wrote:yeah not bad as it essentially is an isolated island...
I think some of the "isolating" elements could actually be assets for Cupples Station. 1-64 and the parking to the south obviously add nothing. But some of the monlithic towers to the north, namely the Eagleton Courthouse, the Bank of America Tower, and 1010 Market Street, bring hundreds of workers nearby and offer paltry retail/dining options. I think Cupples Station could continue to absorb some of that lunch/drinks demand, and also obviously benefit from the two hotels, two major sports venues, and two metrolink stations that sit on either end of it.

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PostJun 03, 2011#11

So I know I am getting wayyyy off topic (kind of) here but I think couples station would be an amazing place for wash u to relocate their graduate business school to. With their endowment they could deff make a really modern (and likely tall) new downtown business school in the heart of stl that imo would really raise the profile of the school. A large amount of private institutions already have satellite business schools in their metro downtown areas. It would be a perfect fit for cheap and a great location for the future. Alright I'm finished.

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PostJun 04, 2011#12

Moving from Busch through the Cupples development is actually my favorite spot Downtown...Those buildings are absolutely amazing...I've said this before, but sitting down at Mercury with my dad and Bud Lite and BBQ surrounded Busch, Stan, and the alive Cupples buildings before heading out to watch Pujols and the boys is just a great evening...And IMO the best setting in baseball...

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PostJun 04, 2011#13

newstl2020 wrote:Cupples station would be an amazing place for wash u to relocate their graduate business school
Interesting idea. Whomever redevelops the ninth and final Cupples Station building (at the southeast corner of 11th & Spruce) will need some very deep pockets. It looks like the roof collapse and related damage extends throughout the core of the building.

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wabash wrote:
newstl2020 wrote:Cupples station would be an amazing place for wash u to relocate their graduate business school
Interesting idea. Whomever redevelops the ninth and final Cupples Station building (at the southeast corner of 11th & Spruce) will need some very deep pockets. It looks like the roof collapse and related damage extends throughout the core of the building.
Let's just look at that as an opportunity for someone to get a building and do something extremely creative with it. Big ass atrium or court-beer garden? Also, maybe that same developer can fix up the power station next door. Build a green roof or community garden over the top somehow?

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PostJun 04, 2011#15

I remember when they sold out of the condos of this building.

http://www.blueurban.com/ballpark-lofts ... fm#news-10

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PostJun 06, 2011#16

chaifetz10 wrote:While BPV still waits to be built, it's nice to see Cupples Station take the leap. It in itself could grow into what BPV is supposed to become.
Maybe if it grows into something special, it will allow BPV to take a bolder step in the area. I see these two areas feeding off each other...which would be great for downtown.

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PostJun 06, 2011#17

It would be great to see Wash U get back in the Cupples game. You know they owned the complex at least through the late 70's AND that the place was developed in the first place by Robert Brookings, who endowed the University with all the property in 1900. The University actually constructed three buildings including, I believe, this one.

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PostJun 07, 2011#18

Yeah, but there's absolutely no way in freaking hell that the Olin School will transfer to Cupples because "it'd be cool". For Christ's sake, it's taken how many years to get a single developer to move there, let alone one of the most prestigious universities in the US, with a consolidated campus, and a state-of-the-art, beautiful building designed specifically for the business school's operations, to pick up and move operations into Downtown next to Busch. There's no realistic way they'd ever consider moving there, not even if the building came for free and with the renovation already done.

Why not campaign for WashU to do something more pragmatic, like invest in a new Downtown Incubator for student & faculty businesses?

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PostJun 07, 2011#19

gone corporate wrote:Why not campaign for WashU to do something more pragmatic, like invest in a new Downtown Incubator for student & faculty businesses?
Well said. My own dream would be a consortium of WashU, SLU, UMSL, SIU, etc, creating a joint facility for this exact purpose.

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PostJun 07, 2011#20

chaifetz10 wrote:
gone corporate wrote:Why not campaign for WashU to do something more pragmatic, like invest in a new Downtown Incubator for student & faculty businesses?
Well said. My own dream would be a consortium of WashU, SLU, UMSL, SIU, etc, creating a joint facility for this exact purpose.
Let's not forget Webster with the Peabody being renovated around the corner.

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PostJun 07, 2011#21

My main reason for not including Webser: they already have facilities in the Old Post Office downtown.

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PostJun 07, 2011#22

gone corporate wrote:Yeah, but there's absolutely no way in freaking hell that the Olin School will transfer to Cupples because "it'd be cool".
gone corporate wrote:and a state-of-the-art, beautiful building designed specifically for the business school's operations, to pick up and move operations into Downtown next to Busch. There's no realistic way they'd ever consider moving there, not even if the building came for free and with the renovation already done.
I realize that I inserted "relocate" in my original post in error. My intent was to throw out the idea of Wash U locating a satellite campus for their MBA programs downtown in a new infill (or rehabbed) building in Cupples Station. Many schools have downtown satellite campuses to accomodate working professionals with easier access to classes. So while they would by no means move the school, they could locate additional operations there, most likely for part-time night mba courses. It was an idea I personally thought would be very cool to see. Plus, it would continue to add more people into the mix at more hours of the day in this area of downtown. Casual posting, that's all :) . I have no decision making capabilities for the Wash U business school, unfortunately.

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gone corporate wrote:Why not campaign for WashU to do something more pragmatic, like invest in a new Downtown Incubator for student & faculty businesses?
Very good idea! They could do this and also have more class space. Could possibly occupy a decent size building. But we are getting slightly off topic here, unless we can generate some investor interest in buying the remaining 7 building to create our own...

NextSTL generating any profit? :D

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PostJun 08, 2011#24

newstl2020 wrote:
gone corporate wrote:Why not campaign for WashU to do something more pragmatic, like invest in a new Downtown Incubator for student & faculty businesses?
Very good idea! They could do this and also have more class space. Could possibly occupy a decent size building. But we are getting slightly off topic here, unless we can generate some investor interest in buying the remaining 7 building to create our own...

NextSTL generating any profit? :D
SQUARE comes to mind, didn't Dorsey state that he would like run part of his start up in St Louis if it ever got on solid footing. Considering the region is a already a mini financial hub and a Stiffel wants to build next door at BPV, why not find an unique way to expand upon it.

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PostJun 09, 2011#25

wabash wrote:
newstl2020 wrote:Cupples station would be an amazing place for wash u to relocate their graduate business school
Interesting idea. Whomever redevelops the ninth and final Cupples Station building (at the southeast corner of 11th & Spruce) will need some very deep pockets. It looks like the roof collapse and related damage extends throughout the core of the building.
WU will likely relocate/build a new graduate business school, but I wouldn't count on it being anywhere other than the Danforth campus.

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