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Cori Bush and Roy Blunt stepped up for STL city in the latest fed gov spending bill


$1.25 million to the Greater St. Louis, Inc. Foundation for the “Strengthening Downtown St. Louis Public Safety Program”

$685,000 for @STLCityGov 911 Dispatch System

$3.75 million to The @SLMPD for the St. Louis Regional Violent Crime Initiative

Gee, seems unmeaningful to use 300k as a denominator to calculate a measure of rate to then compare with other places.

JJ Taino wrote: ↑

Dec 23, 2022

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner hired former Reign night club owner...for the love of god.

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 2#cxrecs_s

Geez! STL is something special! No wonder its always stuck! An incompetent hiring a thug that owes thousands of dollars!! Only in STL!!


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I agree KG sucks and this is particularly audacious, but let's be real: using one's public office to get your ne'er-do-well friend/relative/neighbor a make-work job is a practice as old as civilization.

It was 22 last year and generally around 10 until about 4 years ago when we went to basically no gun laws

SB in BH wrote: ↑

Dec 28, 2022

^^Is it just me or does that "justifiable" number keep ticking up year over year? Seems like everything is going according to the MO General Assembly's plan: Make MO the Wild West again! Coming soon, state deputized citizen's militias policing your neighborhood.

That's always been the plan.

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Dec 27, 2022

4 days to go

We were at 192 until a lady from the county decided to locate her stolen car in the city and shoot the car thief (also county resident), killing the thief and also killing an innocent bystander.

So far CA office has refused charges on 20% of the homicides that SLMPD requested charges.

Its 196 today because 2 homicides that were previously called "justified" have been moved to the not justified category, so that went from 15 to 13

Disappointing given the progress we were making in the first half of the year.

^ august threw it off course from low 180s to 198

^I'm still happy to see movement in the right direction.

According to the SLMPD website, we are 4 days into 2023 without a homicide.

gregl wrote: ↑

Jan 05, 2023

According to the SLMPD website, we are 4 days into 2023 without a homicide.

Shhhhh

Collinsville with 2, Maryland heights with 1, Jennings with 1, STL county with 2.

While we averaged 1 homicide every 1.84 days last year we did have a few 7-10 day spans with no homicide.

The Kia/Hundai vulnerability issue is likely driving increases all over the country.  Both on car theft and burglary.  Fiasco to say the least.

^ it’s under property but I just pulled out the 2 biggest subs, both car related.

Burglary/breaking/entering 2350 in 2022 vs 2108 in 2021

^Car thefts aside a positive report. However, I'm wondering whether decreases in some of those categories are due to changes in reporting rather than decreases in the amount of actual crimes committed. Is it possible that fewer crimes are (a) being reported by victims/witnesses/etc., and/or (b) fewer reported crimes are being formally logged by police due to a lack of resources? I know in my neighborhood there is a sense of "why bother" as the police often don't respond at all much less take a formal report for anything less than a violent crime.

SB in BH wrote: ↑

Jan 05, 2023

^ However, I'm wondering whether decreases in some of those categories are due to changes in reporting rather than decreases in the amount of actual crimes committed. Is it possible that fewer crimes are (a) being reported by victims/witnesses/etc., and/or (b) fewer reported crimes are being formally logged by police due to a lack of resources? I know in my neighborhood there is a sense of "why bother" as the police often don't respond at all much less take a formal report for anything less than a violent crime.

Possibly. But I've also seen it work the other way too. I've heard some people say they are more likely to report to get more police coverage in their neighborhood. 

Either way we gotta go with the stats we get. No "what ifs"

I don’t think so, the police get these reports out each month within a day or 2 of month ending, and it’s all digital from time the officer puts it in the system in the car.   If people are reporting less crime, you would see that in property crime and that category is going up, not down.    I don’t see any evidence of less crime reported than years before.  In June my car was gone through and nothing taken or broken and I didn’t report it. I wouldn’t have reported it last year or 5 years ago either.    

Other thing to note- you cannot compare this and last years crime data to years before because it’s changed-  if I rob someone with a gun, and also punch them in the face that would have been reported as one crime in 2020 and before- the highest charging crime “armed robbery” but since 2021 it would be listed on these reports as armored robbery AND assault so the 2021 and 2022 reports have 57,000 total crimes but it’s probably like 30,000 crime instances


Another example: in 2019 I take your car at gun point, it’s reported as just armed robbery and not car theft
Since 2021 it’s reported as armed robbery and car theft.

Franklin County on pace for infinity times more murders than St. Louis City in 2023.

StlToday - Man, woman killed in double shooting in Franklin County

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 0c902.html