Texas plates = managing the heroin trade to STL and beyond!
Texas is invading us! Quick, get to the defense system. They want St. Louis to be one of those big Texas Cities.
Actually, I want St. Louis to become a Texas Size City.
Actually, I want St. Louis to become a Texas Size City.
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there's probably some truth to this.
I've seen lots of Texas, California, and New Jersey plates lately. Especially in the CWE.
That's the Alterra crew re-locating from Dallas.urban_dilettante wrote: ↑Jul 25, 2017on a related note, has anyone else noticed a TON of Texas plates around recently?
Can definitely speak to things haven gotten wilder on the road in the last couple years. Am pretty much a total STL native so I have nothing to compare it from except the not too distant past, however the incidence of "crazy sh*t" happening on the road has definitely seen a noticeable uptick from me. I don't remember being this apprehensive and on guard on the road in my entire life.
Stop signs being disregarded is something I'm used to, but red lights being treated like stop signs is new. I see that almost weekly. Random people seeing someone driving quickly as a challenge to race is happening a lot. Extreme erraticness, alternating between inattentiveness and hostility. I've seen people get out of their car and try to start a fight twice since the start of the year, one at the intersection of Kingshighway and Magnolia (both times the other driver left). I myself was followed home recently by a lady in a minivan after I honked at her for driving between two lanes. (STL drivers really don't like being hoked at, seems to be the ultimate insult here. I had the good sense to not tip her off that I lived there and shook her before returning. That pissed me off, since it was pretty obvious she was drunk.
Overall it seems everyone is just extremely on edge. Don't know how else to put it.
And I have also noticed all the Texas plates (that's the only one I've noticed, though). There definitely were not that many around even a year ago.
Stop signs being disregarded is something I'm used to, but red lights being treated like stop signs is new. I see that almost weekly. Random people seeing someone driving quickly as a challenge to race is happening a lot. Extreme erraticness, alternating between inattentiveness and hostility. I've seen people get out of their car and try to start a fight twice since the start of the year, one at the intersection of Kingshighway and Magnolia (both times the other driver left). I myself was followed home recently by a lady in a minivan after I honked at her for driving between two lanes. (STL drivers really don't like being hoked at, seems to be the ultimate insult here. I had the good sense to not tip her off that I lived there and shook her before returning. That pissed me off, since it was pretty obvious she was drunk.
Overall it seems everyone is just extremely on edge. Don't know how else to put it.
And I have also noticed all the Texas plates (that's the only one I've noticed, though). There definitely were not that many around even a year ago.
May be off topic but... It’s a crime to be a stupid driver. Don’t be a stupid driver! Put the phone, burger, makeup and beer down and DRIVE. ![]()
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^ First pic's a Photoshop - the original says something like Nashville on the street sign, so I'm not sure if it's in St. Louis or not.
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i don't know, probably more so in summer. i have driven to/around/through miami in winter and it was noticebly more wild than st. louis (wrecked/dented sports cars going 120, etc). I-70 from downtown to foristell (and beyond) historically is far worse than the I-64 corridor, which is probably the tamest expressway outbound around st. louis. I-55 south can be a little wild with high speeds/recklessness downtown to jeffco...Chalupas54 wrote: ↑Jul 25, 2017I actually don't think this is the correct thread for this, however very recently I drove in St. Louis for the first time. Since I moved from the area, I've lived in multiple places across the country so I have experienced driving elsewhere, even in the New York area where I live currently. My GOD. Drivers in St. Louis are aggressive as hell. From traffic weaving to general middle fingers, the St. Louis freeways are far more wild than New Jersey and New York. Honestly, I-64 WB at 5:15 on a Friday from the city to 141 is as wild as I-95 SB approaching Miami. I'm not kidding. I did not recall this when living in the area, and neither did my parents.
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new orleans can be pretty crazy, people driving without doors, etc.
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Probably not the best topic for it, but since we're on the subject of traffic in St. Louis, I wonder if any of the suggestions in the following video would help in some areas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4PW66_g6XA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4PW66_g6XA
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Oh, absolutely. There are two places in Carondelet Park I'd like to see traffic circles: at Grand and Holly Hills and Grand and the Loughborough feeder. And I'd like to see Grand through the whole park narrowed with bump outs and chicanes, and speed humps and pedestrian signals at the pedestrian crossings. I feel quite certain the same could be said for other areas. Anything that slows and smooths traffic is a plus. And anything that simplifies pedestrian crossings and gets drivers to pay attention is a lifesaver.Trololzilla wrote: Probably not the best topic for it, but since we're on the subject of traffic in St. Louis, I wonder if any of the suggestions in the following video would help in some areas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4PW66_g6XA
Boston is a special case not for comparison to mere mortals.gary kreie wrote: Have you driven in Boston? At least St Louis traffic moves. And up there, everybody honks. I consider myself a moderately aggressive driver, but if I only got honked at 3 times per day in Boston, it was a good day.
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I don't think this is so much a question about traffic as it is about driving habits. Traffic's pretty easy here, with one or two minor exceptions. Sure. Most of us can agree to that, I think. But it does seem like there's a lot more reckless and dangerous driving than there used to be, particularly in south city. Anytime you have a combination of freetime, testosterone, and a laissez faire legal system for whatever reason you'll get people enjoying a more . . . shall we say risk embracing lifestyle? And with large stretches of relatively empty roads you get a lot of opportunity for the High Octane X-Games. I haven't seen anyone drift a corner yet, but I've certainly seen a lot of what surely looks like underground street racing on 55. There are a few spots where you can see tricked out street rods gathering on about any given night. And oddly, they're the polite ones. They'll pass you like you're sitting still, but other than that they drive nice. (Assuming I'm even right in my half-baked assumptions about who's doing what where. Seems likely, but its not remotely admissible. At least not until the hammer drops and people actually start dumping gas into their engines, at which point positive IDs are . . . problematic. Speed differentials make that kind of thing tricky.)
Add to that frustration over a distinct inequality of opportunity (and enforcement) and things get even more exciting. Injustice can breed some serious righteous anger. I like righteous anger. I'm down with that. But even righteous anger can be . . . misused. On the roads, say. Or at crosswalks. I . . . well . . . I've maybe kicked a car once or twice. Which was, maybe, not the proper use of righteous anger. (Or at least this is what my spouse tells me.) So anyway . . . it's both spectacularly unsurprising that there's a lot of angry and fast driving in town and splendidly dangerous. More so for those lacking a couple tons of armor wrapped around them. Further, it's a problem we can improve with careful and thoughtful design. And maybe just a modest investment. Fight crime with cobblestones and lane closures. (Not road closures, mind. Just lanes. No need for more pipe planters, k-thx.)
Trump just delivered the most chilling speech of his presidency
The president of the United States is explicitly encouraging police violence.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... olice-hand
The president of the United States is explicitly encouraging police violence.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... olice-hand
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It is extremely troubling. That said, I believe that most law enforcement agencies realize that they would still be liable for any possible injury and possible mistreatment. Unless Trump is willing to pardon every single officer accused of mistreatment, I don't think we're going to see too many LEOs trying to get away with uncalled for brutality. And even if they were found criminally innocent, civil suits are still a thing that the President can't pardon away.
I don't necessarily agree or disagree. He just shouldn't have said it. If a murderer is caught, then they should be treated roughly, but if you are puled over from being drunk and are arrested, you shouldn't be treated roughly.hebeters2 wrote: ↑Jul 29, 2017Trump just delivered the most chilling speech of his presidency
The president of the United States is explicitly encouraging police violence.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... olice-hand
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Police officers are not authorized to determine guilt, that is a very important part of our judicial system.chriss752 wrote: ↑Jul 29, 2017I don't necessarily agree or disagree. He just shouldn't have said it. If a murderer is caught, then they should be treated roughly, but if you are puled over from being drunk and are arrested, you shouldn't be treated roughly.hebeters2 wrote: ↑Jul 29, 2017Trump just delivered the most chilling speech of his presidency
The president of the United States is explicitly encouraging police violence.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... olice-hand
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If you're talking about Trump, I assume by "wanted the Central Park Five executed" you mean "still wants them executed, even though they were exonerated by DNA evidence and someone else confessed to the crime."
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... na-n661941
"If a murderer is caught" as determined by the cheering police officers who laughed knowingly when Trump discussed roughing up suspects?
It is good that we have a judicial system where everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but I question whether cops always respect this fact.
It is good that we have a judicial system where everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but I question whether cops always respect this fact.
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I suppose you'll be happy to know that the cops never catch a good percentage of murderers in St. Louis. The murderers are mostly running loose in our emptied out little city every night.
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I think you missed the point, troll.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Aug 01, 2017I suppose you'll be happy to know that the cops never catch a good percentage of murderers in St. Louis. The murderers are mostly running loose in our emptied out little city every night.
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I took a tour through the Dutchtown neighborhood yesterDAY. The whole Chippewa, Gravois, Grand area is a travesty. 20 years ago that area was a thriving middle-class nabe. Now it almost brings tears to your eyes. The usual prey-on-the-poor businesses have popped up all over. Houses in horrific condition.
Sometimes I wonder if parts of STL are beyond help. I can see why this area is a center of crime.
Sometimes I wonder if parts of STL are beyond help. I can see why this area is a center of crime.