I think the building looks fine. I agree with Grover, though. They should have pushed the building back to maintain the existing building line along Grand. I really hate it when one building sticks out beyond its neighbors.
That townhouse building is going to be built on the northern half of the parcel with an east west orientation along Flad. That means that the north-facing windows are all going to look out at the Jack in the Box. Awesome. I would definately pay $400,000 for that kind of view!! What? They need to buy out that Jack in the Crack and detonate it. If they can replace a sh*tty Shoneys with condos they should be interested in replacing a sh*tty Jack in the Box.
If they sell the condos and townhouses quickly, it will put more pressure on developing the Jack in the Box property. Its all part of rebuilding the city.
You are right, but I am questioning their ability to sell $400,000 townhouses that look directly at a Jack in the Crack. Even if people buy them with the thought that the "restaurant" will come down during their tenure, they will still have to contend with living next to a construction site. I am pleased with this development, don't get me wrong, I just am worried about whether these things are going to sell. For $400,000 you could buy an AMAZING house in any one of the neighborhoods nearby (with the possible exception of Compton Heights) and you wouldn't have to contend with living directly on Grand (busy busy) with a view of a fast food chain.
Personally I would rather have a home than a 400,000 condo near a fast food restaurant. However, if this was DT with a view, then that's different. Drive thru's are not good neighbors.
I agree that a Jack in the Box would not be my preferred view.
But, I would love living right on Grand. Only steps to one of the best bus lines in the city. A short walk to one of the best parks in the city. Minutes from downtown. Some people prefer new constructions & will like this type of building. Chances are there will be a privacy fence between the townhouses and the restaurant.
As long as I can remember, people have been improving this city, rebuilding this city knowing that something unsavory was next door. There are plenty of people that have put up with far worse.
But, I would love living right on Grand. Only steps to one of the best bus lines in the city. A short walk to one of the best parks in the city. Minutes from downtown. Some people prefer new constructions & will like this type of building. Chances are there will be a privacy fence between the townhouses and the restaurant.
As long as I can remember, people have been improving this city, rebuilding this city knowing that something unsavory was next door. There are plenty of people that have put up with far worse.
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That's true, I'd rather live next to one Jack in the Box than the White Castle and other fast food places around Grand & Gravois, but they're still rehabbing the old bank building into condos. Of course, it does have a bit more architectural significance than the Compton Gate condos 
I'm also curious as to how people are going to use those first floor balconies right on Grand (in the main building). I mean, passersby would be practically in your face!
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Jack in the Box would ideally be redeveloped someday as a new condo tower similar in height to older buildings along South Grand but completely modern in design. Just picture a building like 4545 Lindell someday on this site.
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southslider wrote:Jack in the Box would ideally be redeveloped someday as a new condo tower similar in height to older buildings along South Grand but completely modern in design. Just picture a building like 4545 Lindell someday on this site.
That would be fantastic, as would mixed-use buildings further south on Grand near Gravois where a bunch of fast-food joints currently stand.
Condo project aims to keep residents in Shaw neighborhood
By Justin St. Clair
SPECIAL TO THE POST-DISPATCH
06/08/2007
Michelle Duffe was tired of seeing her older neighbors leaving the historic Shaw neighborhood because they could no longer handle the upkeep of their large houses.
The problem was, the area was dominated by large single-family houses, and if people wanted to downgrade to a more manageable condo, it meant leaving the neighborhood.
Duffe and her partners in the CCND development group aimed to create a closer option for such residents with the Compton Gate Condominium development at 2201 South Grand Boulevard at Flad Avenue.
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The developers also are working on a group of town houses on the site that will complete the project. They are expected to be complete by early spring.
I assume this is Spring 2008.
I visited this project a few weeks ago and the layouts are great, but the developer chose to finish out all of the units and their selections are terrible. I know they are targeting "empty nesters", but who does beige toilets and sinks anymore? And most of the cabinets are 1970's brown oak. I look forward to seeing the pool/landscaping completed.
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I know the couple that lives just behind the JintheB. They hate it and are not optimistic re it being closed anytime soon. They have heard it's the most profitable store around. I dunno.
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J'n'B would go for the right price. Being a profitable location just means it's a steep price. Would Shaw residents though fight a new tower that would be needed to make a strong ROI for a developer? There are towers already along South Grand, but then again, so has Lindell, but that didn't stop NIMBY opponents there.
