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PostAug 01, 2023#26

I wonder what his plan is for the athletic fields. In an ideal world it's turned into a city park. It has perfect interactions with the surrounding streetscapes. 

Realistically it probably gets turned into a parking lot.

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PostAug 01, 2023#27

Bulldoze the gymnasium north of the school for the Apartment parking and then extend Tennessee through the athletic fields. Multi family with ground floor retail along Grand, 2 and 4 families along Tennessee, and single fams along Louisiana.

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PostAug 01, 2023#28

That also works for me

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PostAug 02, 2023#29

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Aug 01, 2023
I wonder what his plan is for the athletic fields. In an ideal world it's turned into a city park. It has perfect interactions with the surrounding streetscapes. 

Realistically it probably gets turned into a parking lot.
Isn't the athletic field still in use? Or have they consolidated to other fields finally? (Always struck me as odd the schools were using it after they closed the building.)

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PostAug 02, 2023#30

^ Maybe, but it was always going to be part of any sale.  SLPS has received offers for just the fields over the years, but it was always a package deal.  The fields and Grand frontage were always the carrot to get someone to do a comprehensive redevelopment of the whole thing.

A couple years back SLDC had a design firm do a conceptual design for the site, didn't get much attention, but I remember it being along the lines of what JJG describes above.

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PostAug 16, 2023#31

Dutchtown STL - Tonight! We're meeting with the potential developer of Cleveland High School to learn about and provide feedback on the project. Join us at St. Anthony's Parish Hall at 3135 Meramec at 6:30pm.

Zoom - https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82109370937#success

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PostAug 16, 2023#32

quincunx wrote:
Aug 16, 2023
Dutchtown STL - Tonight! We're meeting with the potential developer of Cleveland High School to learn about and provide feedback on the project. Join us at St. Anthony's Parish Hall at 3135 Meramec at 6:30pm.

Zoom - https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82109370937#success
Do you know if this will be posted online to stream later or do we have to join live? I'm interested in how this goes.

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PostAug 16, 2023#33

The tweet by DutchtownSTL said "or stay tuned for the recording soon."

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PostAug 16, 2023#34

quincunx wrote:
Aug 16, 2023
The tweet by DutchtownSTL said "or stay tuned for the recording soon."
Thanks, it's exciting to see movement on this site

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PostAug 17, 2023#35




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PostAug 17, 2023#36

While what Goodson did in Lafayette Square 15 years ago is quite admirable (thought under Slay), his rapid expansion of a brand (Field's) while apparently knowing it was tanking not a great look.  

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PostAug 17, 2023#37

He’s done a lot of projects

http://www.gilded-age.com/about.html

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PostAug 17, 2023#38

I'm aware, I lived in Benton park and had family in LS for many years. 

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PostAug 18, 2023#39

Stl PR - Cleveland High School redevelopment is moving forward starting with community input


https://news.stlpublicradio.org/economy ... nity-input

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PostAug 20, 2023#40

You know, I'd quite forgotten City Hospital/The Georgian was his. The Field's Foods business has made me worried, but that does make me a bit more confident. Maybe groceries just isn't their thing, but they're great at apartment buildings. Best luck to them.

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PostApr 12, 2024#42

KMOV - ‘We want to see this building thrive;’ Dutchtown leaders asking city to buy Cleveland High in hopes they can find developer to renovate building

https://www.firstalert4.com/2024/04/11/ ... -building/

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Post6:06 AM - Feb 23#43

There was another fire here the other day.

The Dutchtown Facebook page says they believe the sale of the property to the SLDC was approved.

If the SLDC can manage to get a deal together with a reputable developer that can actually get this complicated building brought back to life, the future will be better for Dutchtown. This is really the most important piece of the puzzle down there. A lot hinges on getting this property reused. The way I see it, this could be St. Louis’s version of Michigan Central, granted more locally renowned than nationally.

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Post6:52 AM - Feb 23#44

Some of the most beautifully architectural schools in the country are right here in our city and we are letting so many be demoed. The recent demo announcements were just saddening

It’s so sad these community cornerstones couldn’t be repurposed. The losses of our built school and churches have been some of our worst architectural losses

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Post11:02 AM - Feb 23#45

Of course they could have. It only takes money. We need to demand that it be spent on it

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Post4:21 PM - Feb 23#46

My idea is that the Green Line BRT should jog over at Meramec and terminate/turnaround at Grand 70#. This could anchor transit-oriented development in the empty field in front of Cleveland with two high frequency transit options. This brings the southern terminus into the more densely populated area of Dutchtown rather than dead ending along the fairly unpopulated Meramec/Broadway intersection along I-55 that has been floated as the terminus in the route concepts. I think it'd be worth the couple blocks of mixed-traffic route to make a connection to #70 and create even more demand for redevelopment in the area.
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Post4:43 PM - Feb 23#47

Hmmm. Certainly Dutchtown deserves good public transport as a densely populated working class neighborhood. Meramec is also remarkably historically intact for how underutilized it is, and was built because of the commerce around the former terminus of the 70 grand streetcar back in the day.

The problem in my view though is that its a very slow drive through there, there's a stop sign at almost every intersection. I'd focus on increasing frequencies of the 73 and 70 bus lines. I wonder if any thought has been given to how the 11 chippewa bus (2nd busiest bus line for Metro) would be reconfigured if the green line is built.

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Post5:24 PM - Feb 23#48

That is true, there's clearly been an effort to keep Meramec slow and dense. Maybe Osceola makes more sense then; furthers opportunity for dedicated bus lanes on a road-dieted Broadway, only a few stop signs on Osceola, leaves the #73 route intact, and could rebuild the irregular intersection at the SE corner of Cleveland School and southern edge of the fields for dedicated busways and still have a turnaround station at Grand. Regarding the #11 route, maybe it just interlines along Jefferson and uses the BRT stations, further increasing bus frequency to Downtown along that corridor.

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Post12:16 AM - Feb 25#49

StlToday - St. Louis Public Schools sells Cleveland, Marshall schools to development agency

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/edu ... abcff.html

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