That looks really good! Crazy how something as simple as color can change a space
DeBaliviere makes a good point; Projected images can be changed, whereas we'd be stuck with painted images for a long time.
Agreed we could do some realllllllly cool things with projections. The Hilton across the park on Market is at the right height. The projections could add movement/excitement to the street when traffic calms down.
-Metro could pay for an advertisement on the projection. Imagine looking at the garages. Entering on the left side a metro train projection would glide across the garages and stop on the edge of the opposite garage. Then on the other garage, it would say "Take Metro! 8th & Pine and Stadium Stations"
-Visual art galleries.
-Welcome to St. Louis!
-Baseball and Hockey scenes.
-St. Louis greats!
Sigh, I wish.
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-Metro could pay for an advertisement on the projection. Imagine looking at the garages. Entering on the left side a metro train projection would glide across the garages and stop on the edge of the opposite garage. Then on the other garage, it would say "Take Metro! 8th & Pine and Stadium Stations"
-Visual art galleries.
-Welcome to St. Louis!
-Baseball and Hockey scenes.
-St. Louis greats!
Sigh, I wish.


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If this somehow related to Pixel Press and people could play video games on the sides of the buildings from the plaza, that'd be great.
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Love it.CarexCurator wrote:If this somehow related to Pixel Press and people could play video games on the sides of the buildings from the plaza, that'd be great.
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^^ THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN (AS IS CLEAR FROM MY USE OF ALL CAPS)!!!
This is something very similar to what we'd see with the parking garage. Would be great at night! Painting the garage could help for daytime appearance.
Anyone have any idea how much something like this would cost every night?
Anyone have any idea how much something like this would cost every night?
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^ Would be good to know how much Union Station pays for their show.... I think it would be kind of neat to have a pretty cool standard product that plays say at the top of the hour for a short show, sort of like how folks flock to the clock show at the Munich City Hall. You could also have special events for unique performances, say choreographed with the SLSO, etc.
Cincy has the Lumenocity event, but that is a limited enagagement.
Cincy has the Lumenocity event, but that is a limited enagagement.
The main problem with those garages in my mind is with what is going on with the ground floor retail/mess. Doesn't look like anything you should find in a modern city in the 21st century.
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^ moving to safe storage, I believe. (I wish they wouldn't bring it back but that's just me.)
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Come on guys, what is the point of having a plaza named after an athlete from the 1904 Olympics without some sort of visual nod to that?
For lack of a better photo op, the running man has been a local landmark for decades. I think I may have attended my very first protest there back in the day...
For lack of a better photo op, the running man has been a local landmark for decades. I think I may have attended my very first protest there back in the day...
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He'll be back. They're just putting him in temporary storage while his home gets rebuilt.
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Not really. I don't quite understand the attachment some people have to that statue.CarexCurator wrote:Anybody else feel a slight punch in the gut at this sight?
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CityArchRiver is giving free Construction Tours on the first Friday of each month this year. Here is where you sign up for the tours:
http://www.cityarchriver.org/tours/
I was one of the six in the first tour conducted this morning. The tour was led by CityArchRiver's Tom Nagel. Even though I thought I knew a lot about the plan, Tom explains a lot of the rationale behind the design decisions, and that they are looking at the next 50 years in their plan. He also talks about the cooperation between GRG, ArchCityRiver, National Park Service, BiState, City, and MODOT as a model for similar projects around the country. They have money for a foundation to fund maintenance going forward.
Here are some tour photos:
Tom Nagel of CityArchRiver leading the tour group. by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
Tour Group by the Museum Construction by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
London Planetrees by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
Sloped Path down to the Riverfront by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
Bike Trail North by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
Here are a few things I learned that I didn't know before:
1. Peabody plaza between CityGarden and Kiener plaza will be changing. Announcement coming soon.
2. Leonor K. Sullivan Boulevard will open all the way in about 3 weeks, just ahead of an official opening in June.
3. Stage at bottom of Arch stairs is flat because bands bring their own stage and it easier to install if the whole area is flat.
4. GRG will program all concerts, etc. on LKS boulevard. It used to be unclear who had that authority.
5. Slope down at each leg is slightly too steep for ADA. So a small landing will be inserted for wheelchairs further down which should not change how it all looks from the outside.
6. Museum entrance will be from the West only. Security lines will be indoors out of the heat. Restrooms will be outside of security. (Currently lines at the arch legs make people stand in the heat and restrooms are on the other side of security.)
7. Doors at legs will be exit only.
8. There will be a fountain at the front entrance. Some older artists drawings don't show it.
9. When the hill is put back in place above the new West entrance, it will be 4-5 feet higher than the old hill, but repects Dan Kiley's original vision.
10. The land that the old Switzer's Licorice building used to occupy on the Landing, which is now grass, is owned by Great Rivers Greenway. They have plans on how they want to use it.
11. Gondolas to Illinois are not dead. The project was ready to build them, but Illinois was not on board yet. They may need to move Route 3 etc. first.
12. Hill in the middle of Luther Ely Smith park was thought up later, and is intended to give kids a vantage point to see what is coming as they approach the Arch from the West, rather than flat grass. Grass at top of hill has been worn away a little since it is popular. Tom said they have a solution coming soon.
13. The two large Staircases down to the riverfront at the far ends of Arch grounds will be replaced. GRG got matching funding from the Federal Government.
http://www.cityarchriver.org/tours/
I was one of the six in the first tour conducted this morning. The tour was led by CityArchRiver's Tom Nagel. Even though I thought I knew a lot about the plan, Tom explains a lot of the rationale behind the design decisions, and that they are looking at the next 50 years in their plan. He also talks about the cooperation between GRG, ArchCityRiver, National Park Service, BiState, City, and MODOT as a model for similar projects around the country. They have money for a foundation to fund maintenance going forward.
Here are some tour photos:
Tom Nagel of CityArchRiver leading the tour group. by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
Tour Group by the Museum Construction by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
London Planetrees by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
Sloped Path down to the Riverfront by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
Bike Trail North by Gary Kreie, on FlickrHere are a few things I learned that I didn't know before:
1. Peabody plaza between CityGarden and Kiener plaza will be changing. Announcement coming soon.
2. Leonor K. Sullivan Boulevard will open all the way in about 3 weeks, just ahead of an official opening in June.
3. Stage at bottom of Arch stairs is flat because bands bring their own stage and it easier to install if the whole area is flat.
4. GRG will program all concerts, etc. on LKS boulevard. It used to be unclear who had that authority.
5. Slope down at each leg is slightly too steep for ADA. So a small landing will be inserted for wheelchairs further down which should not change how it all looks from the outside.
6. Museum entrance will be from the West only. Security lines will be indoors out of the heat. Restrooms will be outside of security. (Currently lines at the arch legs make people stand in the heat and restrooms are on the other side of security.)
7. Doors at legs will be exit only.
8. There will be a fountain at the front entrance. Some older artists drawings don't show it.
9. When the hill is put back in place above the new West entrance, it will be 4-5 feet higher than the old hill, but repects Dan Kiley's original vision.
10. The land that the old Switzer's Licorice building used to occupy on the Landing, which is now grass, is owned by Great Rivers Greenway. They have plans on how they want to use it.
11. Gondolas to Illinois are not dead. The project was ready to build them, but Illinois was not on board yet. They may need to move Route 3 etc. first.
12. Hill in the middle of Luther Ely Smith park was thought up later, and is intended to give kids a vantage point to see what is coming as they approach the Arch from the West, rather than flat grass. Grass at top of hill has been worn away a little since it is popular. Tom said they have a solution coming soon.
13. The two large Staircases down to the riverfront at the far ends of Arch grounds will be replaced. GRG got matching funding from the Federal Government.
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^ thanks for the great update; hadn't been down there since maybe early March. Do you know when people can enter straight into the grounds rather than having to go all the way down by the Old Cathedral? And is that tour open to all ages?
Great update and thanks for the heads-up about the tour.
Any word on when the reflection ponds will be filled back up?
Any word on when the reflection ponds will be filled back up?
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Good to hear about the Peabody Plaza... that no workee for me so hopefully they can make it more inviting. (Seems to need outdoor seating for the restaurant, too.)
"Picnic on the Riverfront" scheduled for June 2nd, including a 2,016 foot long picnic table:
http://stlouiscnr.com/departments/assoc ... dium=email
http://stlouiscnr.com/departments/assoc ... dium=email
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Here are a couple of photos I took from Eads Bridge:
Laclede Landing access to Arch by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
North Arch Grounds by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
Untitled by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
Laclede Landing access to Arch by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
North Arch Grounds by Gary Kreie, on Flickr
Untitled by Gary Kreie, on Flickr









