^ Jeff Gordon seems to agree with Farmer that a Rams/Chargers deal makes the most sense if Spanos and Kroenke come to a stalemate on votes, which does seem likely if each only needs to get 9 behind their side.
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Looks to me as if the voting process will just be procedural, if Farmer's report is correct.
Then the NFL & it's owners will place the teams where they see fit. I guess the Task Force just has to continue on their current path and hope they do not hit any snags. Then we'll have to hope Robert Kraft's words still resonate with the rest of the owners.
Then the NFL & it's owners will place the teams where they see fit. I guess the Task Force just has to continue on their current path and hope they do not hit any snags. Then we'll have to hope Robert Kraft's words still resonate with the rest of the owners.
Kraft said Monday at the NFL owners meetingsFrom my point of view, if they come up with a plan that looks pretty good and a strong financial package, I think we — the NFL — have an obligation in my opinion to be able to have a team in St. Louis,”
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a**hole.
Y'all need to make life hell for them when they come back. Root for every opposing team etc.
Y'all need to make life hell for them when they come back. Root for every opposing team etc.
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The Beast 980 @TheBeast980 15m15 minutes ago Los Angeles, CA
If there is a reasonable stadium proposal, there are a lot of owners that are very uncomfortable turning their back (on StL) -@dkaplanSBJ
The Beast 980 @TheBeast980 18m18 minutes ago Los Angeles, CA
"A lot has been made of Jerry Jones support of Kroenke's project, but there are plenty others who don't support it" @dkaplanSBJ
If there is a reasonable stadium proposal, there are a lot of owners that are very uncomfortable turning their back (on StL) -@dkaplanSBJ
The Beast 980 @TheBeast980 18m18 minutes ago Los Angeles, CA
"A lot has been made of Jerry Jones support of Kroenke's project, but there are plenty others who don't support it" @dkaplanSBJ
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Ouch... to counter DB's positive news.... The drama continues. Everyone has an opinion. 99.9% is a done deal IMO. Who knows how credible this guy's "sources" are. He seemed pretty confident.
http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/S ... Louis.aspx
* Then again, he is a KC guy, so we have to take what he says with a grain of salt.
http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/S ... Louis.aspx
* Then again, he is a KC guy, so we have to take what he says with a grain of salt.
He's also off by a year, the Inglewood stadium won't be ready until 2018.DogtownBnR wrote:Ouch... to counter DB's positive news.... The drama continues. Everyone has an opinion. 99.9% is a done deal IMO. Who knows how credible this guy's "sources" are. He seemed pretty confident.
http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/S ... Louis.aspx
* Then again, he is a KC guy, so we have to take what he says with a grain of salt.
Yeah, that interview was depressing. I'm preparing for the NFL to completely botch this relocatin process up.Ouch... to counter DB's positive news.... The drama continues. Everyone has an opinion. 99.9% is a done deal IMO. Who knows how credible this guy's "sources" are. He seemed pretty confident.
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^ Somehow I think they'll wind up playing rock, paper, scissors to settle the thing and broadcast it on NFL Network. And somehow the Bills wind up in Saskatchewan.
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I don't know if I buy this, but if this is true, this goes against Fisher's avoidance of the topic of relocation. Not only did this site refer to him as JESS Fisher, but they also think the Rams should move because a few thousand LA Rams fans showed up in Oxnard.
http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2015/08/1 ... is-a-must/“I grew up here and went to school here. It’s a great area, and … they miss their pro team,” Rams head coach Jess Fisher told ESPN. “I think it’s understandable, and that’s why there’s so much talk about the potential of bringing a franchise here.”
Iif Davis is that "wishy-washy" on selling the team, who knows if Peacock's "business" in the Bay Area a few months ago wasn't putting together an offer for ownership in the event the Raiders become the team, and STL becomes the city that get tossed aside in all of this. Get Mark all hopped up on Toasted Ravioli, Imo's, and some Budweiser and make some bad decisions.
I wonder if Peacocks' individual meetings with owners are just as much about convincing them of a solid local ownership group for some team as it is about a solid stadium plan?
I'm going to market an NFL Owners Version of Clue to commemorate the weirdest year in NFL history:
Kroenke (a dead ringer for Col. Mustard), in Inglewood, with the Mustache.
I wonder if Peacocks' individual meetings with owners are just as much about convincing them of a solid local ownership group for some team as it is about a solid stadium plan?
I'm going to market an NFL Owners Version of Clue to commemorate the weirdest year in NFL history:
Kroenke (a dead ringer for Col. Mustard), in Inglewood, with the Mustache.
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^ do you think if Kroenke took off his toupee he could use it to strike someone dead with it?
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I am 100% in St. Louis' corner concerning the NFL, but I just want this to be over with.
I'm tired of listening to this. And what really sucks is that I can't help but follow the news.
If St. Louis has their team taken from them despite having a financial plan in place, it will be a great injustice.
I'm tired of listening to this. And what really sucks is that I can't help but follow the news.
If St. Louis has their team taken from them despite having a financial plan in place, it will be a great injustice.
We really dont know what the outcome will be. In the past few days there have been reports that "sources" St. Louis will have a team, then the next day these "sources" will say the Rams are gone. Its really hard to tell and I'm willing to bet that it will fluctuate a few more times before its done. With that said, I have a hard time believing the NFL will abandon St. Louis if financing for a stadium is secured. I'm also not convinced about San Antonio, do they even have a stadium proposal? St. Louis seems to be a more viable threat.
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David Peacock's statement on today's approval of the tax credits by the Missouri Development Finance Board:
http://t.co/Fcki4BeSG8
"The benefits of a new NFL stadium in downtown St. Louis are clear, not only to our metropolitan region but the entire state of Missouri as well. That was underlined today by the approval for $50 million in tax credits by the Missouri Development Finance Board. We appreciate the board's support as we continue to make meaningful and measurable progress toward keeping the St. Louis Rams here in St. Louis."
http://t.co/Fcki4BeSG8
"The benefits of a new NFL stadium in downtown St. Louis are clear, not only to our metropolitan region but the entire state of Missouri as well. That was underlined today by the approval for $50 million in tax credits by the Missouri Development Finance Board. We appreciate the board's support as we continue to make meaningful and measurable progress toward keeping the St. Louis Rams here in St. Louis."
Nicely done, Mr. Kreie! Way to rep the cause.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/ma ... a0a1e.html
http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/ma ... a0a1e.html
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At this point, this story has basically jumped the shark for me also. I just want it over. And frankly, I'll sleep just fine at night with my conviction that whether the Rams stay or go will have little bearing on St. Louis' future. What does bother me is the extraordinarily clear violation of the true spirit of democracy based on the whims of a handful of super-rich, autocratic grandfathers and their lackeys.
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I wrote this letter published in today's Post Dispatch describing why the stadium is a good deal for the city, and why the St. Louis Aldermen should vote for it. More evidence that the Rams more than pay back all the public money invested in a new stadium to keep them here.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/ma ... a0a1e.html
http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/ma ... a0a1e.html
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Yeah, why not Louisville? They are just below Memphis and OK City in population and are currently growing faster than Memphis (and exponentially faster than STL). They now have successful NBA transplant franchises that made both of them big-four pro-team towns. They also have "Papa" John Schnatter, who is a big football guy.goat314 wrote:I'm also not convinced about San Antonio, do they even have a stadium proposal? St. Louis seems to be a more viable threat.
San Antonio has the Alamodome ready to roll and already getting updates. Plus if you can sell Austin and San Antonio as one market you're looking at 4 million people.goat314 wrote:I'm also not convinced about San Antonio, do they even have a stadium proposal? St. Louis seems to be a more viable threat.
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^^^ Gary, it might turn out that way but we just don't know at this point. Lease terms and other agreements with the owner will be critical to how things would play out. For example, will the city be on the hook for needed upgrades along they way or would the $6 million be it? Also, the more I look at it the more concerned I am that the amusement tax won't be a casualty; we lost it for Scottrade and Busch III and there is no reason to expect this won't be another sacrifice to the sports gods.
On the other hand, if the amusement tax could be retained and if a healthy portion of other event revenue such as parking fees were shared with the city then things might even be a bit of a windfall for the city budget. However, as the team owner will have to commit to 30 years and chip in a couple hundred million $$ this time around, I think it is safe to assume that the owner will retain almost all revenues as I believe is pretty standard in similar situations. So we'll just have to stay tuned.
On the other hand, if the amusement tax could be retained and if a healthy portion of other event revenue such as parking fees were shared with the city then things might even be a bit of a windfall for the city budget. However, as the team owner will have to commit to 30 years and chip in a couple hundred million $$ this time around, I think it is safe to assume that the owner will retain almost all revenues as I believe is pretty standard in similar situations. So we'll just have to stay tuned.
And the Rams' social media department just keeps rubbing our face in it.
https://twitter.com/STLouisRams/status/ ... 4041103361
https://twitter.com/STLouisRams/status/ ... 4041103361
What are they rubbing our face in? The fact that they're practicing in Oxnard with the Cowboys?
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$6 million has been it so far for the dome for the city potion, and every funding formula I've ever seen for the new stadium is still pegged at a flat $6 million for the city portion. Glad to see you may be conceding the $6 million city portion is indeed covered by Rams and fans.roger wyoming II wrote:^^^ Gary, it might turn out that way but we just don't know at this point. Lease terms and other agreements with the owner will be critical to how things would play out. For example, will the city be on the hook for needed upgrades along they way or would the $6 million be it? Also, the more I look at it the more concerned I am that the amusement tax won't be a casualty; we lost it for Scottrade and Busch III and there is no reason to expect this won't be another sacrifice to the sports gods.
On the other hand, if the amusement tax could be retained and if a healthy portion of other event revenue such as parking fees were shared with the city then things might even be a bit of a windfall for the city budget. However, as the team owner will have to commit to 30 years and chip in a couple hundred million $$ this time around, I think it is safe to assume that the owner will retain almost all revenues as I believe is pretty standard in similar situations. So we'll just have to stay tuned.
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^ It isn't covered by the Rams currently, but it might in the future; I've always said that. Also, Blitz said in court that the CIty may be asked for more than $6 million. Again, details matter so we'll just have to see.