9,549
Life MemberLife Member
9,549

PostJan 12, 2022#1551

Lord Paul, unknown to anyone locally, has apparently been tweeting out these letters from Steve Smith. In one we find out that smith has converted a loan from Paul into 49% equity in the office and apartment project

678
Senior MemberSenior Member
678

PostJan 12, 2022#1552

Apparently Steve Smith lives in one of the penthouses at 100 Above the Park.

2,678
Life MemberLife Member
2,678

PostJan 12, 2022#1553

Anybody wanna talk about the “huge $10bn project”?


678
Senior MemberSenior Member
678

PostJan 12, 2022#1554

^ Man, not sure what the deal is with that, but whatever the case, this guy's Twitter has all sorts of insider info.

For instance, after just a quick glance, apparently Putt Shack is willing to pay $50 psf for 26,642 sq. ft., which comes out to $1.3 million per year. Holy crap.

805
Super MemberSuper Member
805

PostJan 12, 2022#1555

Pretty insane that he’s putting it all out there.

But also, $10bn, wow. That’s really promising. A year ago I was wondering what part of the city between DT, Grand Center, and CWE would become the shopping center of the city. Seems increasingly likely that grand center is going to become that


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6,119
Life MemberLife Member
6,119

PostJan 12, 2022#1556

^I cannot complain about Midtown getting some love. Also . . . following.

240
Junior MemberJunior Member
240

PostJan 12, 2022#1557

If the $10Bn mark is real I hope construction moves towards Downtown connecting Midtown and Downtown! Fingers crossed lol…


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2,419
Life MemberLife Member
2,419

PostJan 12, 2022#1558

If I'm reading and understanding that report correctly, the Foundry project is already 67% leased. That seems like good news to me.

If $10 billion is accurate, I hope they hit hard with investment in Grand Center near their Angad hotel, all around the Vandeventer & Forest Park Ave. area, and then up and down the Washington, Olive, and Locust corridors all the way into Downtown West.

Sent from my SM-F711U using Tapatalk


240
Junior MemberJunior Member
240

PostJan 12, 2022#1559

KansasCitian wrote:If I'm reading and understanding that report correctly, the Foundry project is already 67% leased. That seems like good news to me.

If $10 billion is accurate, I hope they hit hard with investment in Grand Center near their Angad hotel, all around the Vandeventer & Forest Park Ave. area, and then up and down the Washington, Olive, and Locust corridors all the way into Downtown West.

Sent from my SM-F711U using Tapatalk
Agree 100%

Making DT and Midtown walkable will bring bikes, scooters, and people. Now the Light rail system news and I’ll be all 2022 😂


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5,705
Life MemberLife Member
5,705

PostJan 12, 2022#1560

$1B makes a lot more sense and $10B seems a lot more like a typo considering the immediate footprint bordered by Vande, FPP and believe Spring if they acquire corner property at Vande & FPP as well as build on/tear down and rebuild current parking structure along FPP.  You got infill for 4-5 sold structures say at $150 millionish.  

2,678
Life MemberLife Member
2,678

PostJan 12, 2022#1561

^ that’s my sticking point also. Even in this area with a lot of vacant or underutilized land… feels impossible to fit $10bn.

5,261
Life MemberLife Member
5,261

PostJan 12, 2022#1562

It's surely going to end up being a $1 Billion project. As said before, it's a typo.

Midtown will become our "shopping district" over the next decade or so. Foundry, Armory, Steelcote, and a future plan at Iron Hill will all help with this goal. I also wouldn't be surprised if Midtown Alley gets some shopping and more dining options to activate it a bit. There's still a ton of room for great change in Midtown/Grand Center. What we're seeing now, I truly believe, is just the tip of the iceberg. Better connectivity is a must though, so the Brickline Greenway can't come soon enough and I'd hope that Grand @ Forest Park is made at-grade with Forest Park receiving bike lanes/wider sidewalks in parts.

Back on the Foundry side of things, I'm happy to see it's 67% leased. Steve Smith and Team had a crazy ambition and they made it possible, now things are starting to pay off in a way.

194
Junior MemberJunior Member
194

PostJan 12, 2022#1563

I didn't comb through is Twitter feed, but if Lord Paul is publicizing deal terms, it would probably be in his best interests to cool that down. Tenants and brokers don't like it when you blast out their negotiated rent.

I also find it hard to believe that PuttShack is paying anything remotely close to $50psf. That would be amongst the highest retail rates in the entire metro area and in 26,000sf no less. If they are, then kudos to the Landlord and they'd be wise to start looking for a backup when PuttShack goes bankrupt.

2,678
Life MemberLife Member
2,678

PostJan 12, 2022#1564

^ imagine if you were Puttshack finding out on Twitter that you’re paying $10 psf more than the previous lease…

194
Junior MemberJunior Member
194

PostJan 12, 2022#1565

addxb2 wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
^ imagine if you were Puttshack finding out on Twitter that you’re paying $10 psf more than the previous lease…
Even worse if you see them blasting out to the public that you just became the highest paying retail tenant in the entire STL metro area and overpaid by about 50%.  The only way I could see them paying that kind of coin is if the Landlord wrote them a massive check to build out the space and they're paying it back w/ interest during the term.

6,661
AdministratorAdministrator
6,661

PostJan 12, 2022#1566

All of these emails that Lord Paul is sharing from Steve Smith feel like they are being sent to butter up Lord Paul to make sure the  investment money keeps flowing. They're factual and contain great info for those of us here that are interested, but they're written in a very glowing way to appeal to the 90 year old billionaire partner. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that at all. Keep your investor interested and happy. But it may not hurt to take everything shared with that view in mind.

I agree that the $10 billion is likely meant to be $1 billion. I had the thought of a typo as soon as I read that. Or Lord Paul is really trying to build up interest and excitement to try to help drive investment. Even with construction inflation outpacing regular inflation, $10 billion is still an astronomical sum of money. Certainly more than the estimated $2 billion Lord Paul is worth.

Steve Case and his Rise of the Rest investment fund is noted as part of the funding source for phase II in one of these communications. Looks like they are taking full advantage of being in an Opportunity Zone.

1,518
Totally AddictedTotally Addicted
1,518

PostJan 12, 2022#1567

Buried in this Tweet they mention that City Winery has been added as a tenant - No official announcement that I have heard, but this is a pretty good get. I saw a concert at the Chicago location a few years back - They book smaller shows, more intimate  setting, sometimes for several nights in row. 



https://www.citywinery.com/Online/default.asp

12K
Life MemberLife Member
12K

PostJan 12, 2022#1568

Anyone know how Lord Paul got his title? Was it inherited? Earned? Bought?

1,518
Totally AddictedTotally Addicted
1,518

PostJan 12, 2022#1569

framer wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
Anyone know how Lord Paul got his title? Was it inherited? Earned? Bought?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swraj_Paul,_Baron_Paul

9,549
Life MemberLife Member
9,549

PostJan 12, 2022#1570

Lord Paul is 90 years old and genuinely the nicest person. From his pov he’s audience to these tweets is his family/friends and people in UK and he’s very proud of what’s been done here and what’s to let everyone know. I am surprised Steve (who has replied to some of the tweets, sucking up) hasn’t talked to Lord Pauls US legal advisor (often included in the tweets) about how Twitter works

5,705
Life MemberLife Member
5,705

PostJan 13, 2022#1571

A thought, would the new timber frame office space as part of phase II be anchored by Bull Moose once completed?    

Still think this space would be great spot for a certain shoe company HQ that probably has just as many people working tech, building online presence as they do have working with global suppliers and logistic chains just to put a tech spin on it and why being around CORTEX a good fit..  

2,327
Life MemberLife Member
2,327

PostJan 13, 2022#1572

When we met with Steve he was saying the residential is going up 1st quarter, the office building is dependent on a tenant. Sounds like it’s not going up on spec.

9
New MemberNew Member
9

PostJan 14, 2022#1573

This looks awesome. Anyone know where it’s going within the foundry?

City Foundry to add wine and live event attraction

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ction.html

1,607
Totally AddictedTotally Addicted
1,607

PostJan 14, 2022#1574

jbacott wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
addxb2 wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
^ imagine if you were Puttshack finding out on Twitter that you’re paying $10 psf more than the previous lease…
Even worse if you see them blasting out to the public that you just became the highest paying retail tenant in the entire STL metro area and overpaid by about 50%.  The only way I could see them paying that kind of coin is if the Landlord wrote them a massive check to build out the space and they're paying it back w/ interest during the term.
I have to assume that at $50psf has to include improvements, if that is actually the rate.  It all has to depend on who is paying for the buildout.  Is it the developer or the tenant?  Some of the real estate guys like MATTnSTL might be able to shed light on how they think this number jives. 

2,055
Life MemberLife Member
2,055

PostJan 17, 2022#1575


Read more posts (355 remaining)