I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that more than one of the nine candidates come from the Northside.
^ For what it's worth another two or three of them live in the Central Corridor but are still in wards that are primarily located in the North Side. But I do agree with you, what I don't agree with are Moore's tactics. Literally waiting until that last couple days to make a stink about this instead of having his picks submit their applications in a timely fashion to be considered. The Mayor picked her choices based on who applied to be on the board. Moore and his cronies should have had their picks apply on time and they could have been considered with the rest of the applicants. Instead we're down to basically the last day, the County and State are all squared away and now it looks like the City won't have their selections in on time. Where was Moore a month ago when Krewson released her picks?
Edit. I think this was my 1,000th comment lol.
Edit. I think this was my 1,000th comment lol.
Reading or hearing anything about how the Board currently operates is a sure way to plunge me into a seething rage. I agree that firing half these losers can't come soon enough.
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This whole situation is classic STL. The entire point of the Board of Freeholders is to try to find ways to make our systems of government less dysfunctional. Today's antics by the Board of Aldermen show exactly the type of dysfunction that exists and why it needs to change ASAP. STL governments, both City and County, are in need of radical change.
It gets worse:
StlToday - Freeholders may start Monday without city's appointees
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... dcaf3.html
The fact that the Freeholders will meet in City Hall without the City's freeholders is insane, but I agree that it needs to be done. The City's dysfunction shouldn't hold up progress. Of all of the embarrassing things our Aldermen have done over the years, this one peeves me the most. Once again, we are playing right into County folks' perception of the City. There's an old saying that if you aren't at the table, you're on the menu. Wouldn't be surprised if this one plays out that way.
StlToday - Freeholders may start Monday without city's appointees
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... dcaf3.html
The fact that the Freeholders will meet in City Hall without the City's freeholders is insane, but I agree that it needs to be done. The City's dysfunction shouldn't hold up progress. Of all of the embarrassing things our Aldermen have done over the years, this one peeves me the most. Once again, we are playing right into County folks' perception of the City. There's an old saying that if you aren't at the table, you're on the menu. Wouldn't be surprised if this one plays out that way.
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Quite a few institutions both government and private already work across the city/county border. Maybe we need to work around government to build regional organizations. More GRGs but with new taxes for policing, schools, and development. Does anyone have any confidence that this organization won’t turn into a board of brie holders?
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StlToday- Freeholders stalemate continues at St. Louis City Hall
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 487aa.html
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 487aa.html
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Building a new regional organization for every problem is a pretty sluggish way of doing things, probably even compared to the BoA.gary kreie wrote: ↑Oct 30, 2019Quite a few institutions both government and private already work across the city/county border. Maybe we need to work around government to build regional organizations. More GRGs but with new taxes for policing, schools, and development. Does anyone have any confidence that this organization won’t turn into a board of brie holders?
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Moore is demanding that over half the city's candidates come from north of Page, where less than a third of the city lives. It is a patently absurd non-starter, but that is entirely the point. This is a concerted effort by the city's black political leadership to derail the entire process because they don't want to see the city re-enter the county - the only likely policy proposal to come out of the BoF meetings.framer wrote: ↑Oct 23, 2019I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that more than one of the nine candidates come from the Northside.
Editorial: A process to fix city-county dysfunction is mired in ... dysfunction
https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/editor ... 03238.html
How embarrassing is this? All this BS in an attempt to protect their little political fiefdoms and grease the wheels for their family and politically connected cronies. There is a lot of truth about the North Side getting ignored and largely forgotten when it comes to all the redevelopment happening in the city. But I'm not sure how any of that is supposed to change as long the aldermen from that part of the city continue to obstruct any and everything that doesn't personally help themselves or their families. What a god damned joke.
https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/editor ... 03238.html
BRING ON THAT WARD REDUCTIONAlderman Sharon Tyus is said to be disrupting the process by holding out for her husband to be a member — which other aldermen correctly regard as posing an unacceptable conflict of interest. She is vice chairman of the aldermanic Intergovernmental Affairs Committee, which empowers her to erect roadblocks if she doesn’t get her way.
How embarrassing is this? All this BS in an attempt to protect their little political fiefdoms and grease the wheels for their family and politically connected cronies. There is a lot of truth about the North Side getting ignored and largely forgotten when it comes to all the redevelopment happening in the city. But I'm not sure how any of that is supposed to change as long the aldermen from that part of the city continue to obstruct any and everything that doesn't personally help themselves or their families. What a god damned joke.
Speaking of ward reduction, are we reasonably past the opportunity to overturn the ward reduction bill?
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Just make sure to re-elect Krewsonaddxb2 wrote: ↑Nov 13, 2019Speaking of ward reduction, are we reasonably past the opportunity to overturn the ward reduction bill?
It would probably be too late to undo ward reduction by the time whoever was mayor after the next election took office in late spring 2021. Redistricting is supposed to occur after we get the 2020 census numbers and in time for the 2023 local elections, so there would be a limited amount of time to put it before voters and then draw new maps. I suppose it could be done but who is to say it would even have the support of a majority of the Board at that point.
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Don't underestimate the will of our shittiest aldermen to throw a wrench in the gears - look at what they're doing to the BoF process. 2020-2023 is a long time range, and I can very well see a number of those opposed doing everything they can to stall and reverse ward reduction. If Krewson is mayor again, then I don't think there's as much of a risk that they will be successful, but if Jones becomes mayor she will refuse to veto a measure that places it back on the ballot again.Ebsy wrote: ↑Nov 14, 2019It would probably be too late to undo ward reduction by the time whoever was mayor after the next election took office in late spring 2021. Redistricting is supposed to occur after we get the 2020 census numbers and in time for the 2023 local elections, so there would be a limited amount of time to put it before voters and then draw new maps. I suppose it could be done but who is to say it would even have the support of a majority of the Board at that point.
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I would give Krewson a B- so far, she gets a lot of bs from the far left twitter cult but she isnt getting re-elected if she moves forward with the airport. its so toxic in polling, soooo toxic...like 25% yes- 75% no
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Agreed - we don't need to privatize the airport. But the most noxious side effect of doing so would be that Jones gets elected, and ward reduction is possibly reversed. With Krewson in office after 2021, ward reduction will go forward, which is why I plan to vote for her regardless of my thoughts on airport privatization.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Nov 14, 2019I would give Krewson a B- so far, she gets a lot of bs from the far left twitter cult but she isnt getting re-elected if she moves forward with the airport. its so toxic in polling, soooo toxic...like 25% yes- 75% no
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I can't think of anything that makes me fume more than the very thought of the very slightest possibility of overturning the Ward reduction vote. If the local swamp somehow manages to pull it off I'm full on rioting.
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They can't unilaterally overturn it, correct? It would have to go back to a public vote? If so, I would imagine any city resident could bring suit against the BOA to block any action to stall the reduction plan.
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Ward reduction was a city charter amendment, BOA cannot amend the city charter, only voters can. So all BOA can do is put another charter amendment on the ballot and let voters have a say again.....which I don’t think would pass to reverse back to 28
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Same here - if somehow the sh*tty alders engineer it during a Jones administration to fall in a low turnout election and the measure is reversed, then it's Katy Bar the Door. I'll never have an ounce of sympathy for the north wards again.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Nov 14, 2019I can't think of anything that makes me fume more than the very thought of the very slightest possibility of overturning the Ward reduction vote. If the local swamp somehow manages to pull it off I'm full on rioting.
It has a chance if they put it on a low turnout ballot, especially one that contains some proposition or other that's designed to turn out low-information voters. They're not going to be stupid about how they go about it.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Nov 14, 2019Ward reduction was a city charter amendment, BOA cannot amend the city charter, only voters can. So all BOA can do is put another charter amendment on the ballot and let voters have a say again.....which I don’t think would pass to reverse back to 28
Krewson replaces 4 or her 9 nominees to the BoF:
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... c502e.html
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... c502e.html
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At this stage in our nation's history, it makes the most sense to start having city-state forms of government in each state - i.e., capitals located in the largest cities, with nearly all economic and political decisions for each state made by city residents. The whole urban/rural divide idea doesn't pass muster because it depends on some notion of "rural culture," which doesn't really exist - there's no there there anymore.
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Rural communities are also being decimated by their youth leaving for urban communities.