urbanSTL

quincunx wrote: ↑

Oct 07, 2020

Surpassed all of 2019
St. Louis City Building Permits Issued By Year.png

What projects drove 2018 so much higher than the other years?

A mix of BPV, Foundry, SSM, 100, Cortex Projects, Union Station, along with other smaller projects. Maybe the Armory too?

Insight on 2018

Nextstl - Building Permits Total Over $1.2B in St. Louis in 2018

https://nextstl.com/2019/01/building-pe ... s-in-2018/

Which projects have driven 2020 so high so quickly (which is just incredible considering Covid)? 

The WUSM neuroscience building, the two projects at DeBaliviere & DeGiverville/Pershing, 4545 Laclede, 4440 Manchester, maybe 1501 S 7th?

I must be missing some big ones unless maybe building permits for the MLS stadium have been issued? 

quincunx wrote:Surpassed all of 2019
St. Louis City Building Permits Issued By Year.png

Curious how this compares to our peer cities.

^ how would a comp look like? Per resident or per square mile?

Here's the top 10 for 2020 thus far

2019 MARKET ST 3/10/2020 3/26/2020 87685700 CONSTRUCT SOCCER STADIUM-STRUCTURAL PACKAGE
1901 CHOUTEAU AV 3/2/2020 6/10/2020 38000000 INT. & EXT. ALTS. PER PLANS
5720 DEGIVERVILLE AV 5/1/2020 7/28/2020 33603927 CONSTRUCT MIXED USE BLDG PER PLANS
4370 DUNCAN AV 7/14/2020 8/14/2020 28000000 CONSTRUCT STEEL COMM. STRUCTURE ONLY(BP 6 & 7) PER PLANS
2019 MARKET ST 3/20/2020 3/26/2020 23900000 ADDENDUM TO PERMIT 555242 ISSD. 3/3/2020 PER PLANS
301 DEBALIVIERE AV 5/1/2020 7/28/2020 22355881 CONSTRUCT MIXED-USE BLDG) PER PLANS
900 N TUCKER BLVD 1/17/2020 2/12/2020 19000000 INT. ALTS. PER PLANS
1818 CASS AV 12/13/2019 6/3/2020 16000000 CONSTRUCT NEW MULTI FAM BLDG & INT ALT ON EXISTING APTS.
215 YORK AV 12/11/2019 2/14/2020 15341321 CONSTRUCT COMMERCIAL BLDG. (HOTEL) PER PLANS
4370 DUNCAN AV 1/24/2020 3/31/2020 13200000 CONSTRUCT COMMERCIAL BLDG FOUNDATION ONLY PER PLANS

moorlander wrote: ↑

Oct 08, 2020

quincunx wrote:Surpassed all of 2019
St. Louis City Building Permits Issued By Year.png

Curious how this compares to our peer cities.

Here is some data from the Census Bureau for residential buildings permits by metro area through August 2020:



Here is the list from Dodge Analytics for commercial and multi-family starts for the first half of 2020.  It only shows the top 20, and we didn't make the cut.  I'm not sure where to find the complete data.  Earlier in this thread someone posted some data from Dodge from earlier in the year that shows higher numbers.  I'm not sure if that is because it includes other construction types (single family, infrastructure, etc) or if that data was calculated in a different manner:



https://www.construction.com/dodge-newsletters/covid-19-crushes-construction-starts-in-most-metro-areas-during-first-half-2020
 

If the MLS stadium permit is issued by the end of the year, we'll have a chance to hit $1B this year.

By the efforts of other on these threads it seems like there was a nice end of the week bump in permit apps for the city

Curios if anyone think that Convention Center Expansion see any permits towards the project this year?  I assume that it is still too early in the game considering city just sold the bonds.   Also, would be a nice anchor to start the next year off.

I wonder how much of the slowing of construction projects in St. Louis is related to material shortages, specifically lumber? I know the shortage and skyrocketing costs are playing havoc in residential construction.  

^I've got a plumber working on my house and he's complained about materials shortages and price increases. I suppose I should be sadly unsurprised that it's a systemic problem.

$1B!

quincunx wrote: ↑

Jan 01, 2021

Nextstl - Over $1 Billion in Building Permits Issued in 2020

https://nextstl.com/2021/01/over-1-bill ... d-in-2020/

Richard had a nice writeup and noted that $350 million in pending permits.  I assume the pending permits would include CVC convention upgrades.  If not, 2021 will definitely be off to a good year.    

No permit apps for the CVC convention upgrades yet.
The $350M is mostly apt buildings and the MoBOT visitor's center. 
We should see big ones for the WUSTL neuroscience building.
I'm told the NGA won't have permits so there's several hundred million that won't be in thetotal.

Building permit value by ward for the last term of the Slay admin vs the Krewson 4 year

quincunx wrote: ↑

Jan 01, 2021

No permit apps for the CVC convention upgrades yet.
The $350M is mostly apt buildings and the MoBOT visitor's center. 
We should see big ones for the WUSTL neuroscience building.
I'm told the NGA won't have permits so there's several hundred million that won't be in thetotal.

Thanks, 

So maybe hope full 2021 might also include Wexford's Sand Crawler(or maybe that is already in the current), Foundry Phase II, Iron Hill and maybe just maybe on the wishfull side BPV's 2CW tower or surprise NOW district announcement.     I didn't do a 2021 top ten list but still think 808 Chestnut will be bought and a legit tenant & upgrade will come together for the tower.  

Waxford permit application was canceled.

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Jan 04, 2021

Building permit value by ward for the last term of the Slay admin vs the Krewson 4 year

Impressive for Krewson. And shows how long it took for development to really ramp up following the financial crisis. 

^I'm not sure there's anything really surprising there. The core of the north side continues to see disinvestment and underinvestment. Of the four wards that saw less investment all four are central to the north side: most prominently the corridor along North Grand. The serious investment, the wards seeing hundreds of millions of dollars, were then and are now in the central corridor. SLU, Carondelet, Dutchtown, and Dogtown have seem some improvement. Some pockets on the north side as well, so long as you get away from Grand. Not much change around Tower Grove, but it's pretty stable so that doesn't strike me as troubling. The heavy northside investment all seems to be in the more industrial wards. NGIA will change all that, so long as it actually shows up in the metrics. But how much a heavily fortified walled garden will spur growth along its periphery remains to be seen. (I've no doubt it will and is already bringing the Geo-cash to town, but where that investment will fall is more of an open question.)

$250M already this year!

quincunx wrote: ↑

May 01, 2021

Over $500M in only four months!
SimCity Announcement 2021 500M.png

With costs skyrocketing, I'd guess there's a commercial construction lull coming, at least until the correction. What exactly is left in the pipeline and far enough along in the planning process that, if it proceeds, is likely to get a building permit issued this year? Just considering large projects, obviously.

SoHo
4343 Duncan
1801 Washington
1014 Spruce
SOGRO 
BJC Hospital expansion
Convention Center expansion?
Chemical building renovation?
A-B Brewery: Stella mods and Evergrain renovations?