Notes from Home wrote:If it makes you feel better pho I don't think you're overreaching. In fact I want to think even bigger. Is it still too late to move the nation's capital to St. Louis?
newstl2020 wrote:Some of you might remember this from the MW thread, but I figure I'll post it again for Pho incase you didn't see it. I think this view (from the Poplar) really illustrates the arch's total dominance in our skyline. It's amazing at what a single building can do for a skyline. This is 1277' tall. I really hope I can build it just as it is in the photo one day. Working my ass off now to get to that point. (Sorry for the lack of cladding/color)
Even after seeing something like that, would people still prefer 3 or even 4 - 300' buildings?
. Just because people aren't clamoring to build the worlds tallest buildings in downtown St. Louis, doesn't mean they are being negative. I personally find Portland or Austin to be much more appealing (and useful) models for our city than Kuala Lumpur. phoaddict wrote:Let's just end this merger concept now though, in light of the sh*t storm it will cause.
sethmporter wrote:Long time lurker, first comment.
Pho: I have lived in Stl for just under 3 years and it is nice to see someone with so much enthusiasm about the city. I think however, you incorrectly equate thinking big to thinking tall. I have great hopes for the future of St. Louis and if a corporation decides it wants a 1000' tall headquarters downtown, great, but I don't really understand the obsession with height (**paging Dr. Freud**)
Carrie: As Mayor Francis Slayer's boyfriend, I am a sworn Stunt Devils fan, but I wish you luck in the championship all the same.
The creation of St. Louis' very own "Propaganda Village!" Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Villagecarrieocity kills wrote:and my question about these tall buildings is: WHAT is going to go in them? big empty buildings on their own are not that impressive, and are certainly expensive, no?
southsidepride wrote:so what year did the Poplar Street Bridge collapse into the river??
sethmporter wrote:Long time lurker, first comment.
Pho: I have lived in Stl for just under 3 years and it is nice to see someone with so much enthusiasm about the city. I think however, you incorrectly equate thinking big to thinking tall. I have great hopes for the future of St. Louis and if a corporation decides it wants a 1000' tall headquarters downtown, great, but I don't really understand the obsession with height (**paging Dr. Freud**)
Carrie: As Mayor Francis Slayer's boyfriend, I am a sworn Stunt Devils fan, but I wish you luck in the championship all the same.
wheelscomp wrote:Can someone on this forum start a company that grows to multi-billions in revenue in the next 2-3 years so you can build an 80 story office tower downtown please?
In other/very slightly related news, I just read a snippet in the Post about the second biggest coal company going up for sale. Peabody MUST buy it and move all their operations the STL. Maybe then they could get out of GatewayOne and build something cool.... This is the thread about hopes and dreams right?
sethmporter wrote:Long time lurker, first comment.
Pho: I have lived in Stl for just under 3 years and it is nice to see someone with so much enthusiasm about the city. I think however, you incorrectly equate thinking big to thinking tall. I have great hopes for the future of St. Louis and if a corporation decides it wants a 1000' tall headquarters downtown, great, but I don't really understand the obsession with height (**paging Dr. Freud**)
Carrie: As Mayor Francis Slayer's boyfriend, I am a sworn Stunt Devils fan, but I wish you luck in the championship all the same.
. ).newstl2020 wrote:I feel as though I'm one of this boards more active proponents of skyscrapers, which is likely because I ran across this forum through SSP (share some background with the founding members
Seth, your Freud comment, while a joke, has been versed many times over in any conversation about anything involving tall architecture, so, while I acknowledge the good nature involved, please keep it to yourself. We've been around that block many times before.
IMHO, skyscrapers are one of the most impressive achievements (excluding societal and social concerns) in the history of human kind. There is simply something awe-inspiring that comes from standing at the base of a skyscraper and looking up at it's ascent into the sky. Go to the base (or top) of the Sears tower and try not to be amazed at what our species can accomplish.
It's a natural transition from this view to me babbling on in these forums about height in StL, and I'm sure I usually take it too far, but I seriously think that adding new gleaming skyscrapers is the absolute easiest and most effective way to gain recognition for the city (both in our own metro area and the country/world). Of course I would not want anything built (and this is dumb, because it would NEVER happen) if there were no tennants there to fill the building. This is where marketing our city comes into play. I haven't thought through this enough to provide a *best way* to do this, but it is imperative to continue to gain new corporations with vision, as well as new developers to build residential high-rises (easy to say, hard to do. I know.). We are seeing the beggining of this right now, and I'm praying we pass the initial test.
Edit: And I just love skylines in general.
phoaddict wrote:newstl2020 wrote:I feel as though I'm one of this boards more active proponents of skyscrapers, which is likely because I ran across this forum through SSP (share some background with the founding members
Seth, your Freud comment, while a joke, has been versed many times over in any conversation about anything involving tall architecture, so, while I acknowledge the good nature involved, please keep it to yourself. We've been around that block many times before.
IMHO, skyscrapers are one of the most impressive achievements (excluding societal and social concerns) in the history of human kind. There is simply something awe-inspiring that comes from standing at the base of a skyscraper and looking up at it's ascent into the sky. Go to the base (or top) of the Sears tower and try not to be amazed at what our species can accomplish.
It's a natural transition from this view to me babbling on in these forums about height in StL, and I'm sure I usually take it too far, but I seriously think that adding new gleaming skyscrapers is the absolute easiest and most effective way to gain recognition for the city (both in our own metro area and the country/world). Of course I would not want anything built (and this is dumb, because it would NEVER happen) if there were no tennants there to fill the building. This is where marketing our city comes into play. I haven't thought through this enough to provide a *best way* to do this, but it is imperative to continue to gain new corporations with vision, as well as new developers to build residential high-rises (easy to say, hard to do. I know.). We are seeing the beggining of this right now, and I'm praying we pass the initial test.
Edit: And I just love skylines in general.
I think you are absolutely dead on. Skyscrapers are one of the greatest achievements of our species. It shows our greatness and how far we've come.."reaching for the heavens". They are truly awe inspiring to see such a massive structure scrape the sky, and think, wow, we as humans did that. It truly is magnificent and IMO a human instinct to be wowed by such a feat.
phoaddict wrote:I think you are absolutely dead on. Skyscrapers are one of the greatest achievements of our species. It shows our greatness and how far we've come.."reaching for the heavens". They are truly awe inspiring to see such a massive structure scrape the sky, and think, wow, we as humans did that. It truly is magnificent and IMO a human instinct to be wowed by such a feat.
MattnSTL wrote:^There's no height limit except for Broadway east to the river.
In downtown the north-south Streets are numbered except for Memorial, Broadway, Tucker, and Jefferson.
