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deformative wrote:An email I received today announcing an open house from Great Rivers Greenway. Would be great if people could attend to contribute/share feedback and let us know what goes on.

Do you want to know the answers to these questions:
• In what areas will stations be located?
• What are the equipment options for a bike share system for St. Louis?
• What can I expect to pay for a daily, monthly or annual pass?
• How can a bike share system be funded?
• What additional steps are required to bring bike share to St. Louis?

If you are curious, then join Great Rivers Greenway and its consulting team to learn about the study’s findings on Thursday, November 13 at the Schlafly Library in Central West End. As an open house, you may arrive anytime between 4:30 and 7:00 pm. Formal presentations will be held at 5:00 and 6:15 pm.

$3.3 million needed to start it, 60 bikes located at Midtown, Central West End, Forest Park, The Grove, Delmar Loop, Carr Square, Vandeventer and Academy neighborhoods. so $55,000 per bike....

$7 for a day pass or $15 for a three-day pass, or $25 per monthly membership and $75 per annual membership. There would also be additional fees for using the bicycles for more than 30 minutes at a time.

Need 44,000 annual memberships to cover the start up cost- or a major sponsor.

Good things cost money. Plan might need some tweaks, but I think it's worth getting started. Hope to see the areas that have bikes grow eventually. Sorta like with transit, South City kinda gets left out again, which is a little weird. Hopefully it would eventually expand to the Tower Grove areas and the Frenchtown areas.

jstriebel wrote:Good things cost money. Plan might need some tweaks, but I think it's worth getting started. Hope to see the areas that have bikes grow eventually. Sorta like with transit, South City kinda gets left out again, which is a little weird. Hopefully it would eventually expand to the Tower Grove areas and the Frenchtown areas.

I'm thinking buying a house in Southampton was a mistake.....seems like all these studies ect just assume "everything is fine there, moving on"

dbInSouthCity wrote:

deformative wrote:An email I received today announcing an open house from Great Rivers Greenway. Would be great if people could attend to contribute/share feedback and let us know what goes on.

Do you want to know the answers to these questions:
• In what areas will stations be located?
• What are the equipment options for a bike share system for St. Louis?
• What can I expect to pay for a daily, monthly or annual pass?
• How can a bike share system be funded?
• What additional steps are required to bring bike share to St. Louis?

If you are curious, then join Great Rivers Greenway and its consulting team to learn about the study’s findings on Thursday, November 13 at the Schlafly Library in Central West End. As an open house, you may arrive anytime between 4:30 and 7:00 pm. Formal presentations will be held at 5:00 and 6:15 pm.

$3.3 million needed to start it, 60 bikes located at Midtown, Central West End, Forest Park, The Grove, Delmar Loop, Carr Square, Vandeventer and Academy neighborhoods. so $55,000 per bike....

$7 for a day pass or $15 for a three-day pass, or $25 per monthly membership and $75 per annual membership. There would also be additional fees for using the bicycles for more than 30 minutes at a time.

Need 44,000 annual memberships to cover the start up cost- or a major sponsor.

540 bikes, 60 stations (so $6,100 per bike). A pretty sizable first phase.

deformative wrote:540 bikes, 60 stations (so $6,100 per bike). A pretty sizable first phase.

Nice. I was concerned we were going to be following the lead of various other (non-Chicago) midwestern cities.

Go big or go home. As with any transportation network, you need a robust network to really do any good. So many American cities have bike sharing, but so few have a real network. KC is at about 20 stations (and this is several years after launch). Nashville and Indy are at 25 stations. Those networks, where the distance between the farthest two stations is a long walk, are basically worthless. I'm not paying membership fees to avoid a mile walk.

Chicago aims to have 400 stations by spring.

A real bike sharing network would be awesome (and we're already ahead of those cities because we have transit to pair with bikeshare).

1. I was really surprised that the GPS/Smart bike system wouldn't deliver bigger savings, according to the analysis it would only save about 2/2.5 million for phase one.

2. Most of South City/Tower Grove areas were on the aggressive 2nd phase. They said they would expect the 2nd phase to happen 2-4 years after phase 1. A very big part of the presentation was focused on engineering a system to promote transportation equity, meaning that a big part of phase 2 would be to incorporate the North Side, mainly Old North and Carr Square.

3. They kept talking about how a big sponsor could really get the ball rolling. I kept thinking, Hello! Peabody Energy could easily get some really, really big PR credit by funding the whole thing. It would be about 10-12 million I think to get the system up and running for the first 5 years. That's probably less than most VPs bonuses at Peabody. They could easily use the bike share to help make foreign gasoline the enemy, and show how they are really interested in helping green/clean fuels.

RuskiSTL wrote:3. They kept talking about how a big sponsor could really get the ball rolling. I kept thinking, Hello! Peabody Energy could easily get some really, really big PR credit by funding the whole thing. It would be about 10-12 million I think to get the system up and running for the first 5 years. That's probably less than most VPs bonuses at Peabody. They could easily use the bike share to help make foreign gasoline the enemy, and show how they are really interested in helping green/clean fuels.

I've always thought Enterprise Rent-A-Bike would make a perfect sponsor for the system.

mill204 wrote:

RuskiSTL wrote:3. They kept talking about how a big sponsor could really get the ball rolling. I kept thinking, Hello! Peabody Energy could easily get some really, really big PR credit by funding the whole thing. It would be about 10-12 million I think to get the system up and running for the first 5 years. That's probably less than most VPs bonuses at Peabody. They could easily use the bike share to help make foreign gasoline the enemy, and show how they are really interested in helping green/clean fuels.

I've always thought Enterprise Rent-A-Bike would make a perfect sponsor for the system.

Honestly the cost is so minimal and the payoff (visibility + community good will) so great that it would make sense for any big company in St. Louis. Honestly across the board I think since the days of AB, TWA, SWB, etc. St. Louis had really piss poor corporate patronage. Its about time some of these companies step up and support their city.

The site has very extensive reports to look through. Here is the executive summary.

GRG applied for $2.6M in CMAQ funds from EWG for Phase one and it did not get it. missed the "fund" cut off by about 5-6 projects.

So why has EW Gateway nixed funding on Bike Share? Any one know?

downtown2007 wrote:So why has EW Gateway nixed funding on Bike Share? Any one know?

I wouldn't say they nixed it...basically about $50M was available and about $149M in applications came in. CMAQ applications are scored/funded on which project improves air quality the most and this one scored just below the $50M available cut line. So if there was $60M available it would have been funded.

i dont have the list for this year but here is a old one for example

basically the Bike Share scored in the group "Projects Not Recommended for Funding Due to Funding Constraints"

http://www.ewgateway.org/pdffiles/libra ... s-CMAQ.pdf