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Best Sandwich in St. Louis

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PostDec 25, 2006#1

The "Benton Park" (#3) Sandwich is now my favorite in St. Louis. I think it's better than Amighetti's. or at least as good. Also, they have crushed ice. Why did everyone else stop serving crushed ice?





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PostDec 25, 2006#2

JCity, a sandwich that equals the Amighetti Special is a sandwich I'd like to try.



When friends visited for the first time last summer, we, of course, had to enjoy one meal at the White Castle at Kingshighway and Martin Luther King. Good, really. So I'll also nominate my classic: A sack of ten White Castles and a six pack of Stag, while reading the latest issue of the St. Louis Evening Whirl. It's not the classiest combo, but it has a lot of St. Louis in it!

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PostDec 25, 2006#3

The Benton Park sounds interesting. That's the second recommendation I gotten for it. Hard to argue with a sack of 10.



It has been a few years since I've had it, but Adriana's Italian sausage was really good.

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PostDec 26, 2006#4

I can potate 5 Whitey's before my stomach rebels. I LOVE them after a hard night's drinks.

Sack of ten is asking for trouble :)



That said, am I to understand that WC is a STL phenom only?

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PostDec 26, 2006#5

bsharmastl wrote:That said, am I to understand that WC is a STL phenom only?


No.

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PostDec 26, 2006#6

Blzhrpmd2 wrote:The Benton Park sounds interesting. That's the second recommendation I gotten for it. Hard to argue with a sack of 10.



It has been a few years since I've had it, but Adriana's Italian sausage was really good.


I'll have to "third" that. Not only is the sandwich awesome, but the atmosphere can't be beat, especially when it is warm enough to sit outside. I've been there a couple of times when they've had actual blues guys playing on the corner. Blues City Deli is the best!

PostDec 26, 2006#7

I should also add that their chip selection is matched by no one. They even have "shoestrings".



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PostDec 26, 2006#8

Sooo, on HBO last night I caught a movie starring Susan Sarandon and James Spader set in St. Louis and revolving around Sarandon, an non-nonsense waitress at White Knight, on Locust. Spader plays a young yuppie that she has an affair with.



The title "White Knight." A duality on her place of employ and also the young good looking guy that lets her escape he world.



I watched a good chunk of it, only because I was mesmerized by the shots of places I know, the arch, and the fact that that little crappy buidling is the fulcrum for a movie.



And we all thought they didn't make fims here... :shock:

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PostDec 26, 2006#9

Bastiat wrote:I should also add that their chip selection is matched by no one. They even have "shoestrings".



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it's the only place I can find Kitchen Cooked potato chips in STL, they're not the best, but they remind me of home. Also, Blues City Deli has a great soda selection, I recommend the Sioux City Sasparilla.

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PostDec 26, 2006#10

TheWayoftheArch wrote:Sooo, on HBO last night I caught a movie starring Susan Sarandon and James Spader set in St. Louis and revolving around Sarandon, an non-nonsense waitress at White Knight, on Locust. Spader plays a young yuppie that she has an affair with.



The title "White Knight." A duality on her place of employ and also the young good looking guy that lets her escape he world.



I watched a good chunk of it, only because I was mesmerized by the shots of places I know, the arch, and the fact that that little crappy buidling is the fulcrum for a movie.



And we all thought they didn't make fims here... :shock:


That was White Palace - shot here around 1990 or so.

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PostDec 26, 2006#11

Other White Palace tidbits: The yuppie condo scenes were shot in the buildings at the northwest corner of West Pine and Sarah and in the former photo studio appended to the old house on West Pine on SLU's campus that Father Biondi lives in.



The more downscale bar scene was shot in Cousin Hugo's.



Sarandon's house in the film is just north of Manchester in Dogtown.



The final Manhattan-Greenwich Village-y scene was shot on Euclid.



Spader and most of the cast stayed in the Park Plaza during filming, although Sarandon and Tim and their kids rented a house in the CWE.

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PostDec 26, 2006#12

My favorite sandwich is the Mom's Special at Mom's Deli.


bonwich wrote:Other White Palace tidbits: The yuppie condo scenes were shot in the buildings at the northwest corner of West Pine and Sarah and in the former photo studio appended to the old house on West Pine on SLU's campus that Father Biondi lives in.



The more downscale bar scene was shot in Cousin Hugo's.



Sarandon's house in the film is just north of Manchester in Dogtown.



The final Manhattan-Greenwich Village-y scene was shot on Euclid.



Spader and most of the cast stayed in the Park Plaza during filming, although Sarandon and Tim and their kids rented a house in the CWE.


I thought the more downscale bar scene was shot at what is now "The Brick"?



Sarandon's character's house is no longer there. It's at the corner of Billon Ave and Lloyd Ave right behind the Denny's. If it was still there it would be the second house from the corner: it's now an empty lot. They must have used the Denny's parking lot for some of the crane shots.



In a stroke of incredible genius Jerry Berger published the exact address of the house Saradon was staying in while shooting. He didn't give the block number and street: he gave the exact house number. I think she had to hire extra security and wrote Berger a nasty-gram.

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PostDec 26, 2006#13

Jerry Berger wrote:MEMO TO WELCOME WAGON: Actress Susan Sarandon has leased 4450 Westminster Place through Dec. 25, during the local lensing of ''White Palace.'' That's the house next to 4446 Westminster, which was once occupied by T.S. Eliot and now owned by Andrea and John Gardner, veep of McDonnell Douglas. And if you're looking for Sarandon's co-star, James Spader, you might check out one of the units at the shuttered Chase Hotel.


Jerry actually scored a two-fer in that one; Spader wasn't in the Chase Hotel, but rather in the Park Plaza, which had an independent identity as apartments in those days.



And you're right -- the bar depicted fictionally in the book is Cousin Hugo's, but the shot was done at what was then Dweezle McFrump's.

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Jerry Berger wrote:MEMO TO WELCOME WAGON: Actress Susan Sarandon has leased 4450 Westminster Place through Dec. 25, during the local lensing of ''White Palace.'' That's the house next to 4446 Westminster, which was once occupied by T.S. Eliot and now owned by Andrea and John Gardner, veep of McDonnell Douglas. And if you're looking for Sarandon's co-star, James Spader, you might check out one of the units at the shuttered Chase Hotel.


Jerry actually scored a two-fer in that one; Spader wasn't in the Chase Hotel, but rather in the Park Plaza, which had an independent identity as apartments in those days.



And you're right -- the bar depicted fictionally in the book is Cousin Hugo's, but the shot was done at what was then Dweezle McFrump's.


And Dweezle McFrump's <> The Brick. The Brick was "Gildersleeves" back then.

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PostDec 26, 2006#15

McFrumps = 8658 South Broadway

aka

Rock Island Music Club

Metal's Edge

Desperadoes

and

Bustin' Loose, one of St. Louis' original homes of Jell-O wrestling.



Is anything there now?

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PostDec 26, 2006#16

bonwich wrote:McFrumps = 8658 South Broadway

aka

Rock Island Music Club

Metal's Edge

Desperadoes

and

Bustin' Loose, one of St. Louis' original homes of Jell-O wrestling.



Is anything there now?


Oh yeah, now I remember. Great view of the River Des Peres. I seem to recall trying to get in that place one night, but they turned me away at the door because I had too many teeth.

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PostDec 27, 2006#17

The yuppie condo scenes were shot in the buildings at the northwest corner of West Pine and Sarah and in the former photo studio appended to the old house on West Pine on SLU's campus that Father Biondi lives in.


Sorry, I think you're wrong. The "yuppie"/Spader lived in a condo in Old Towne Clayton North Central, right next to Taylor Park.

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PostDec 27, 2006#18

It has to be pretty good to beat my four favorite St. Louis sandwiches, the roast pork torta at Tropicana, the chicken torta from El Burrito Loco, the meatball from Paul's Pizza in lower Dutchtown or the roast beef from Adriana's on the Hill. That list, of course, exludes burgers -- the tops, with all apologies to runner-up O'Connell's and without any apologies to Blueberry Hill, must be the Best Burger with Cheese (Best Steak House) and the John White Burger (Papa Fabarre's).

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PostDec 27, 2006#19

dutchtowner wrote:the meatball from Paul's Pizza in lower Dutchtown


Where's Paul's Pizza? I don't think I've ever heard of it.

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PostDec 27, 2006#20

Special order the Uncle Pete's meatball on garlic cheese bread at Joanie's.



I noticed recently that Johnny's in Soulard has something like 30-plus sandwiches on their menu.

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PostDec 27, 2006#21

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The yuppie condo scenes were shot in the buildings at the northwest corner of West Pine and Sarah and in the former photo studio appended to the old house on West Pine on SLU's campus that Father Biondi lives in.


Sorry, I think you're wrong. The "yuppie"/Spader lived in a condo in Old Towne Clayton North Central, right next to Taylor Park.

In 1990, the P-D wrote:Richards Bruno is getting to be so good at what he does that they're putting his stuff into the movies.



Bruno, who for many years has been building in-fill housing in the City of St. Louis, can see his handiwork on the big screen when he goes to see ''White Palace'' at the theater. A loft townhouse Bruno built at The Hamptons made the silver screen last fall.



''They filmed one of the sets here,'' Bruno said as we walked through the model, a ''B model loft townhouse'' he built and sold. The present owner had a few customized touches added and the decorating is done in a quite striking black-and-white motif.



The owner is ''a black and white photographer, by profession,'' Bruno said with a grin.



''When they were doing the movie, they looked at three or four places I had built,'' Bruno said. ''This was Heidi's condo. They wanted to be able to shoot in a kitchen that was wide open. At first they turned it down because it was too good. She wasn't supposed to be that well-heeled. But they came back.''



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GETTING THERE



Take the Forest Park Expressway to Sarah Street, go north to West Pine. The development is on the west side of Sarah.


Now, if you're telling me Father Biondi lied to me when he told me where the other shot took place, my faith in the Jesuits is shattered. However, it should also be noted that


In 1989, the P-D wrote:Make up a detailed fact sheet with your name, address, phone number, physical description and clothing sizes, then staple a picture of yourself to it and send them to White Palace Casting, 3838 West Pine, St. Louis, Mo. 63108.


Now, the fact that that address is (or was) Larry's house and had a giant open space for Jon Bruton Studios in the back may just be coincidence, but I don't think so.

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PostDec 27, 2006#22

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dutchtowner wrote:the meatball from Paul's Pizza in lower Dutchtown


Where's Paul's Pizza? I don't think I've ever heard of it.


Paul's Pizza is a very strange business on Virginia just a little north of Iron Barley and on the west side of the street. It is a one-man operation. Paul bakes the pies, works the register and somehow manages to deliver the pizzas as well. And if that wasn't enough to keep him busy, he also is one of those "I buy ugly houses" real-estate brokers and he seems to make calls on properties between orders. It is not a particularly attractive place to dine in (at least one of the three tables usually is littered with his real estate paperwork) but it is worth picking up your pizza to inspect the decades-old news clippings about his restaurant.



This is the ultimate St. Louis style pizza. Provel, of course, and the crust seems about half as thin as Imo's. A few added bonuses: He uses very old pizza ovens (not the conveyer belt kind) and taxes are included in the price of the pie (I hope, for his sake) so the bill always is an even amount.



The meatball sandwich is a whole lot of food for the money. Meatballs are huge and it is smothered in provel. And if you don't like provel, sign up to write prissy food criticism in the RFT or move to Chicago.

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PostDec 27, 2006#23

dutchtowner wrote:
DeBaliviere wrote:
dutchtowner wrote:the meatball from Paul's Pizza in lower Dutchtown


Where's Paul's Pizza? I don't think I've ever heard of it.


Paul's Pizza is a very strange business on Virginia just a little north of Iron Barley and on the west side of the street. It is a one-man operation. Paul bakes the pies, works the register and somehow manages to deliver the pizzas as well. And if that wasn't enough to keep him busy, he also is one of those "I buy ugly houses" real-estate brokers and he seems to make calls on properties between orders. It is not a particularly attractive place to dine in (at least one of the three tables usually is littered with his real estate paperwork) but it is worth picking up your pizza to inspect the decades-old news clippings about his restaurant.



This is the ultimate St. Louis style pizza. Provel, of course, and the crust seems about half as thin as Imo's. A few added bonuses: He uses very old pizza ovens (not the conveyer belt kind) and taxes are included in the price of the pie (I hope, for his sake) so the bill always is an even amount.



The meatball sandwich is a whole lot of food for the money. Meatballs are huge and it is smothered in provel. And if you don't like provel, sign up to write prissy food criticism in the RFT or move to Chicago.


Might have to try their meatball sandwich.



Looks liek they're okay with the health dept.



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PostDec 30, 2006#24

TheWayoftheArch wrote:Sooo, on HBO last night I caught a movie starring Susan Sarandon and James Spader set in St. Louis and revolving around Sarandon, an non-nonsense waitress at White Knight, on Locust. Spader plays a young yuppie that she has an affair with.



The title "White Knight." A duality on her place of employ and also the young good looking guy that lets her escape he world.



I watched a good chunk of it, only because I was mesmerized by the shots of places I know, the arch, and the fact that that little crappy buidling is the fulcrum for a movie.



And we all thought they didn't make fims here... :shock:


I've seen it two or three times this month, thanks to HBO's countless repeats and a recent bout with insomnia. :wink:



Like you, I watched several times trying to pick up on the places I didn't recognize. I knew some things, like the location of the White Knight (18th @ Olive) and the location of the house in which Susan Sarandon's character (Nora Baker) lived in Dogtown. However, there are a few things that are still a mystery to me- for example- does anyone know which Dierberg's location was featured in this film? (I'd assume Mackenzie Pointe, as it was the closest location to the city proper, but I'm not sure.)



Spader drives a Volvo in several scenes (sporting the classic maroon Missouri plates, of course)- one near the opening of the film is along Memorial Drive, and another is along Olive Street downtown. The old McDonald's at 7th and Olive and the former ground floor occupants of the Macy's (Famous-Barr) garage are visible in that scene.



And, supposedly, the White Castle at Grand and Gravois was the inspiration for the book that led to this movie. White Castle objected to the use of its restaurants and images, however, so the White Knight at 18th and Olive was used.



White Castle has been in St. Louis for a long time (there's been one at the Kingshighway at Devonshire intersection since 1931, and the current building is the third WC on that site). It's hardly exclusive to St. Louis, though, as there are many in other cities, esp. New York. Speaking of New York, a White Castle location in Brooklyn is featured prominently in another movie...Saturday Night Fever. :wink:

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PostDec 30, 2006#25

The P-D Archive knows all and tells all -- if you've got the password:


The scenes for the movie were filmed in a new Dierberg's grocery near Olive Boulevard and Ross Avenue in unincorporated west St. Louis County.



It was a brand new store not yet open, said Breck. The parking lot was crowded with recreational vehicles for the actors and a heated tent for the extras, as well as equipment trucks of all kinds. Breck guessed that 100 people were at the store, including Dierberg employees who also worked as extras.


And in case you thought you saw someone you recognized:


WHEN ''White Palace'' opens, audiences will catch glimpses of St. Louis - glimpses that include the Gateway Arch, the outside of the Fox Theatre and Heffalump's in the Central West End, although everyone is supposed to think the shop is in New York, where the movie ends.



Audiences also will catch glimpses of hundreds of St. Louisans; among them are a handful who had bit parts during the eight weeks of filming. They include: - Glenn Savan as a disgruntled White Palace customer; in real life, he wrote the novel on which the movie is based.



- K.C. Carr, the stripper at the bachelor party. According to local casting scout Carrie Houk, a different stripper had been booked for the part but didn't work out. Carr was summoned at the last minute.



- Robert Bourgeois, one of the friends at the bachelor party. He is a local actor and waiter at Cafe Zoe.



- Lantz Harshbarger, another friend at the bachelor party. He is a student at Webster University.



- Vernon Dudas, as Jimmy the Bartender. He is an insurance adjuster.



- Michael E. Arnett, the country-western singer, in a bar scene filmed at Dweezle McFrump's. Arnett is a singer who lives in Fenton.



- William Oberbeck, an advertising executive who gets doused with hot coffee. Oberbeck died in August of cancer. He was co-owner of Kerr-Oberbeck, a gift and clothing shop in the Central West End.



- John Flack, another advertising executive. He is a local actor.



- Rabbi Joseph Rosenbloom of Temple Emanuel, the rabbi in the wedding scene. Local casting scout Houk said Rosenbloom won the part over six other local rabbis who auditioned.



- Fannie Bell Lebby, a waitress at the White Palace. She is a local actress who has performed in productions at the Black Repertory Theatre and The New Theatre.



- Janet Lofton as a checker at Dierberg's. She holds the same job in real life.



- Maryann Kopperman, a guest in the Thanksgiving scene. She works at Jewish Hospital and attends nursing school. Her husband, Myron, owns Kopperman's in the Central West End.



- Lana Lu Hull plays Betty the server in the Thanksgiving scene. ''She just wandered in off the street and we loved her face,'' said Houk.



- Abby Sullivan, also a server in the same scene. She is a local actress and teaches drama at Washington University.



Many St. Louisans who had bit parts or were extras wound up on the cutting-room floor. Several scenes that had been shot were not used in the final version, among them sequences at the Hi-Pointe Theatre, Metropolitan Square, Ed's Sandwich Shop, the Beverly Ann Dress Shop in Overland and Duff's in the Central West End.

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