innov8ion wrote:And I don't really recall being told "thank you" at food service locations very often at all. Just my two cents.
Unfortunately, that is often very true no matter where you are at. I always made it a point to say "thank you, have a good night." However, I often do not get that when I am getting food.
Questions to ponder while wondering what will take the former Red Space:
How will the Universe remember Beso's ill advised "lets use a mexican restaurant" scheme to get ladies up to the 2nd floor? Did the dim wits think it would work? Either the restaurant or the enchilada induced sex parties?
Will Steven "Its not my fault" Jackson ever shut up? Or his BFF Richie "Not So" Incognito? (Did you ever think that Silverback sized cranium or ego would allow him to leave a game for being 'light headed'?)
Will the Blues stop hurting themselves? Whats next, will we find David Perron cutting himself in the player tunnel every time he misses a gaping 24 square foot net?
innov8ion wrote:^ Perhaps the gelatorista misunderstood you. It would seem odd that someone would go out of their way to deprive a man from lemon gelato. That would be entirely too cruel. And I don't really recall being told "thank you" at food service locations very often at all. Just my two cents.
Me neither. But it is exceedingly rare that I would call ANY service amazing, much less the kind you get at Burger King or the Gelateria.
^ The gelateria is kind of a cozy, romantic place with good product. And people can tend to look at objects a bit more fondly when on cloud nine -- like when they've recently become engaged. But just don't mess with their bubble tea!
Yeah but this is STL, they will probably just have four or five 27" TV's with Charter cable connected and still call it a "Sports Bar."
What we need is a place to actually compete with Flannery's; you need to offer drink specials!!! If they can offer any type of quality food, drink specials and enough TV's with NFL ticket etc, they would be able to take ALOT of business from Flannery's, or at least force them to complete with drink specials of their own.
BrewCrew13 wrote:Yeah but this is STL, they will probably just have four or five 27" TV's with Charter cable connected and still call it a "Sports Bar."
What we need is a place to actually compete with Flannery's; you need to offer drink specials!!! If they can offer any type of quality food, drink specials and enough TV's with NFL ticket etc, they would be able to take ALOT of business from Flannery's, or at least force them to complete with drink specials of their own.
Just a thought
It ought to be law that to be called a sports bar you must
-offer some sort of specials during games
-all TVs must be HighDef (and set up properly)
-connect to DirecTV and have all of the sports packages
innov8ion wrote:What is this? Four or five sports bars in a three to four block radius? I'd be happy with an authentic mexican joint run by reputable management.
Seems like El Burracho will fill that Mexican niche.
Plus the only competition for a "real" sports bar is Flannery's.
-Side Bar only has the two TVs and the big screen. Plus they're not HD and the place is so noisy it's hard to watch.
-Jack Patricks is a great divey sports bar with great prices. But their TVs suck and I think they use Charter.
Actually the last 3-4 times I have been to Skybox on Sat or Sun, they have had $10 buckets which is a pretty good deal. I believe they usually have a good deal on domestic pitchers too. I was also there for the De La Hoya fight a couple weeks ago, and $10 to get in isn't bad at all considering bars typically get screwed on showing pay per view (they are charged per capacity of the bar). I believe beer was $4 at the bar and they had a beer cart girl selling 16 oz Bud products for $4 near the front door. Their food may not be great but it gets the job done. And their TV setup is pretty hard to beat. The location just isn't ideal for walking. It would be great to have a Skybox type bar on Washington to compete with Flannery's but I won't be holding my breathe.
As far as El Buracho goes; I ate there yesterday and it was pretty good. The place looks great and so different than Nectar. Most of the items are "ala carte" but they had many sides to add. The prices are very competitive and they will get a lot of my future business. The service was great, but they had a lot of staff on hand. I highly recommend trying it out.
innov8ion wrote:What is this? Four or five sports bars in a three to four block radius? I'd be happy with an authentic mexican joint run by reputable management.
What other places are you thinking about?
You have good points. I would include the bar at Kitchen K as "sports bar light." Perhaps Dubliner and even Tigin, for the european football folks.
El Burracho is great from what I hear, but is not in the WashAve district. I believe Mexican is lacking in the heart of downtown. I never really considered Beso to be Mexican food. If you aim to sell "premium" Mexican food and charge premium prices, you best be able to deliver.
^ Ahh, that slipped my mind. Haven't been there yet and I should. I do remember enjoying Zuzu's when it was in Clayton and was sad to see it close here.
A week or two ago, when having lunch at B&T Pizza, I saw a group of people at the old Beso. A few of them wore suits and a couple were dressed in work clothes. They were walking in and out, pointing stuff out and writing things down.
