Undersized for the frame upon which the display is mounted. Last time I looked, there weren't any lights, speakers, or ads on that large steel frame, so again...I don't get it.SeattleNative wrote: ↑Jun 21, 2020I rode by today and didn’t think the TV on the stage was too small. It seems to be a pretty good size for the space. I was about as far away from it as you could be and it felt like I’d be able to watch a game on it, for example.EssTeeEll wrote:The only thing I can think of is...space for more ads. I hope I'm wrong. Maybe they spent too much on their irregularly shaped TV atop the apartments to afford a bigger one down here.urbanitas wrote: ↑Jun 18, 2020^The new display over the stage still looks undersized...I don't get it.
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Guys and gals... there are going to be ads on this eventually. They either just haven't sold them to sponsors yet or they're waiting on the banners /signs to be made/delivered/installed. Same thing happened when Phase I opened. Some of the larger sponsors like the large Prairie Farms sign on the north side didn't come till later. And this is why there are still blank locations on the north side (like above PBR) that are jus the black metal support structures. Give it time and eventually they'll sell the space.
^I'd think ad space there would get snapped up quickly, but I guess that depends on what they're asking for it.
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Precisely. They're not just going to sell it cheaply or for a short term deal.
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I would expect them to put up the same Ballpark Village sign that was on the previous one (and I would be money that they'll just reuse the same sign here rather than having a new one made).
^ Agree,
A slender taller 2CW added would be a nice plus when the day comes. However, I hope they can keep old courthouse dome in the view.
A slender taller 2CW added would be a nice plus when the day comes. However, I hope they can keep old courthouse dome in the view.
^ I was just thinking that. Would building something of even minimal height on the east lot block it out completely?
You'll have to wait until at least 2021 for that, I'm afraid.framer wrote: ↑Jun 25, 2020Well dang, that looks pretty nice. All it needs is a full stadium.
Even if (and that's a really big "if") we reach a point where some fans can be allowed in the stadium this season, I can't imagine it will be much more than 10K, at most. With the huge COVID-19 surge now happening (we just had the biggest single day increase in new confirmed cases nationwide yesterday), I'm not holding my breath on this shortened season making it all the way through before getting cancelled.
It will be nice the next time that stadium is allowed to be full going to a game and seeing all of the people watching from their balconies and from the pool deck above the garage in a completely finished and fully occupied OCW.
I think anything taller than 15 stories on the northeast parcel at Walnut & Broadway is going to completely obstruct the stadium view of the Old Courthouse. And even just 10 stories would obstruct everything below the dome.EssTeeEll wrote: ↑Jun 25, 2020^ I was just thinking that. Would building something of even minimal height on the east lot block it out completely?
The positioning of the Northeast parking lot means that the Old Courthouse will disappear behind a new building. If they wanted to preserve the view, they could just build a park but no one really wants that.
^ Yeah, I don't think I'd want to impede any development simply for a view from inside Busch. Just build a replica as the crown of the building...problem solved. Lol.
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They could construct a building with a massive hole in itchriss752 wrote: ↑Jun 25, 2020The positioning of the Northeast parking lot means that the Old Courthouse will disappear behind a new building. If they wanted to preserve the view, they could just build a park but no one really wants that.
^ I like where your heads at - maybe a giant, clear "baseball" where only the stitches are visible and you can see the courthouse through it. 
Actually, I think that would be awesome and truly give any building in the Midwest a run for its architectural/design money and for that matter, any city with a MLB team. Using One Cardinal Way as a measure stick it looks like you could build your parking deck, add 8 to 9 stories with structural support & elevators banks on the sides & webbing to give a baseball view of the courthouse and start adding floors from their.EssTeeEll wrote: ↑Jun 25, 2020^ I like where your heads at - maybe a giant, clear "baseball" where only the stitches are visible and you can see the courthouse through it.
Funny thing is. People actually love that building and it's a very expensive hotel. I've been to this casino and you would be surprised how people gawk at that thing. It really is an amazing piece of architecture and became an instant landmark in South Florida.
With that said, I don't think St. Louis needs any gimmicky buildings to stand out. The Arch is already iconic in it's own right. I think it's absurd that St. Louis doesn't already have a slew of modern hotels and hi-rises, which main purpose is to have amazing views of the Arch. Chouteau and Laclede's Landing would be sought after zipcodes in most normally functioning metros. I really think the lack of infill in our riverfront neighborhoods is largely a result of poorly planned infrastructure and lack of a cohesive vision.
8 stories of parking garage, topped by a 9 story void highlighted only by LED baseball stitches streaking across it, topped by a balconied grey glass apartment tower, itself topped by a Fox Sports Midwest television screen, juxtaposed by and entirely deferential to a 19th century courthouse would be the absolute highest order of architecture.dredger wrote: ↑Jun 25, 2020Actually, I think that would be awesome and truly give any building in the Midwest a run for its architectural/design money and for that matter, any city with a MLB team. Using One Cardinal Way as a measure stick it looks like you could build your parking deck, add 8 to 9 stories with structural support & elevators banks on the sides & webbing to give a baseball view of the courthouse and start adding floors from their.EssTeeEll wrote: ↑Jun 25, 2020^ I like where your heads at - maybe a giant, clear "baseball" where only the stitches are visible and you can see the courthouse through it.
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I was joking for the most part. In theory, a building like Zaha Hadid's "OPUS" could be built to preserve this very insignificant view. It's definitely something interesting to think about:
I think it's going to pretty much disappear with the stadium lights on, unfortunately. Or, at least you won't get shots like this, from the 22nd:framer wrote: ↑Jun 25, 2020Well dang, that looks pretty nice. All it needs is a full stadium.
I do like the way this building reflects the twilight. It even makes that display trapezoid look good...
Really great angle from inside the ballpark. The depth is beautiful.
Once Phase III is built out this will be one of the best urban ballpark views in the country, no doubt. Of course, then you walk down Broadway. I'm so hopeful that the 4th Street/Chouteau's potential projects will really boost south Downtown into a dense zone of commerce and life.
Once Phase III is built out this will be one of the best urban ballpark views in the country, no doubt. Of course, then you walk down Broadway. I'm so hopeful that the 4th Street/Chouteau's potential projects will really boost south Downtown into a dense zone of commerce and life.