I think it will be one of those “Metro Bus” ads where you can see through it but it gets the point across.The Mayor wrote:^ I think that looks pretty damn good. Including the garage cladding. My only other question is will the "beats" ad cover the glass corner that appears in that second rendering or am I looking at this the wrong way?
They are holding off on jumping it today. There was an issue with the platforms that are required for jumping. They may do it tomorrow weather depending.The Mayor wrote:Looks like they are about to jump the crane for OCW. They spent nearly the entire baseball game today lifting extensions into place.
This is from the 22nd Floor library. It’s not hard at all once you are past security. Sometime I go up to the top floor (28). It’s the lobby for the Circuit Court courtroom. I was in a hurry so I couldn’t be there too long.KansasCitian wrote:How hard is it to get up that high in the Courthouse?
I haven’t taken any pictures of One Cardinal Way for a while. I’ve been busy being caught up in two projects that will add some pizazz to neighborhoods in the City. They are both very early on, but you get the point. I plan on going down to the site sometime this week, maybe Tuesday. Glass will start at the Northwest corner of One Cardinal Way.The Mayor wrote:Chris or anyone else have any updated shots of BPV? I've been following OCW on the webcam but was curious how the rest of the development was coming along, been kind of quiet the last couple of weeks.
Also, if I recall that interview with DeWitt correctly, glazing is supposed to start this month on the residential building.
From today's cam:
What projects would those be? Any clues?chriss752 wrote:I haven’t taken any pictures of One Cardinal Way for a while. I’ve been busy being caught up in two projects that will add some pizazz to neighborhoods in the City. They are both very early on, but you get the point. I plan on going down to the site sometime this week, maybe Tuesday. Glass will start at the Northwest corner of One Cardinal Way.The Mayor wrote:Chris or anyone else have any updated shots of BPV? I've been following OCW on the webcam but was curious how the rest of the development was coming along, been kind of quiet the last couple of weeks.
Also, if I recall that interview with DeWitt correctly, glazing is supposed to start this month on the residential building.
From today's cam:
It's been more of advising some people on moves, submitting ideas, scouting sites and what not. One is in Downtown and the other is in Midtown. We (the team) are chugging right along since this process began a little over a month ago. I'm not sure when they'll be unveiled since the architecture firm is slated to start working on concept designs soon for the chosen sites but nothing is finalized. There's always the possibility of cancellation but research into uses pops up as "in demand" in these areas, so unless the market changes in a quick manner, we'll see. The sites chosen have owners that are willing to sell and people willing to back the project at the same time. No buildings will be demolished.goat314 wrote: What projects would those be? Any clues?
At the risk of getting off topic, I believe it still is a possibility. As of February the developers were still considering it and were working through the design, though that may have changed by now. Chris probably knows more.DogtownBnR wrote: As much as I like the existing building, that view from the top of
the Eagleton Courthouse makes me wish 300 S. Broadway
was still a possibility. How awesome would a 33 story tower
have been in that spot!
300 South Broadway is officially dead. They dumped the project I was told. It remains on their website to show their capabilities in design. To carry on, go to the 300 South Broadway thread.The Mayor wrote:At the risk of getting off topic, I believe it still is a possibility. As of February the developers were still considering it and were working through the design, though that may have changed by now. Chris probably knows more.DogtownBnR wrote: As much as I like the existing building, that view from the top of
the Eagleton Courthouse makes me wish 300 S. Broadway
was still a possibility. How awesome would a 33 story tower
have been in that spot!
Edit: This was the most recent news article I could find from September of 2018. My guess is the 4th quarter of 2019 is out the window, but I've yet to see anything that say it's officially dead. Though at this point it's probably an uphill battle.
"HDA Architects’ owner and CEO Jack Holleran said the firm continues to pursue the $100 million project at that property moving forward. Such a transaction takes “considerable time with a multitude of shareholders. We are continuing to work on the deal structure with a goal to start construction fourth quarter 2019,” he said."
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 153ef.html
For what it's worth, it's still being advertised on their website:
http://www.hdai.com/
Here’s a rendering I hadn’t seen before. Also has a look at BPV:
Mike Shannon’s is on a land lease from the Ballpark Hilton. If you buy the building, you get the Land Lease. So it’s not worth it unless the Hilton is willing to sell the land tooTCB wrote:^ I feel the same way about Mike Shannon’s.
I always thought the no buildings higher than the Arch thing was unofficial? I would imagine if a proposal east of Broadway came along that was taller than the Arch, the city would likely approve it. I just don't think the market has ever really supported it.symphonicpoet wrote: ^I can't immagine they see either the parking lot or Shannon's as particularly a threat. I was just talking about the gateway arch inspired height limits with a friend the other day, mistakenly thinking they had played into the design for 1 Cardinal Way. I was mistaken about that, but I'm pretty sure they would affect everything east of Broadway. The combination of that height limit and the grandstands would make building something on the south lot with anything remotely like a decent view of the playing filed nearly impossible. You could maybe get the top few floors a view, but not the entire outfield, and maybe not the whole infield either. Things on the first base side would fall off fast. Even 300S isn't going to get perfect views. It's almost certainly not an accident that the jumbotron is where it is. You'll notice they left themselves a very convenient view hole to their own properties. It's worked very nicely for the Hlton, but . . . that won't last forever. As to Shannon's, they can just build right in front of it as high as they want. Eventually, I expect they'll have a nice little picket fence back there, and that probably plays into height decisions for each parcel, keeping things in the front mostly lower so they can preserve sightlines for upper floors behind them very much like the upper and lower decks themselves. They're playing a long game, and it's all about sightlines and not building beyond what the market will bear at any given time. Build too much too fast and it would probably drive down rents. But they already own every last one of the prime parcels so they can take their time.
