201 market rate apartments

3,600 sq. ft. of retail

350 off-street parking spaces



Taylor & Chouteau rendering (south and west facades):









West facade:









North facade:









Site plan:

Sweet!

Whoa. Who's developing this?

The corners look better than the sides, but overall decent design. This will really build some density in that section of the neighborhood.

The Boulevard comes to St. Louis!



Not bad. Not breathtaking, but not bad.



Isn't 350 off street parking spaces a bit much? Chouteau from Newstead to Taylor on the north side of Chouteau combined with Taylor/Chouteau to the overpass or beyond would provide a ton of on-street parking. Would the 350 be residential spaces?

DeBaliviere wrote:Whoa. Who's developing this?

Steve Trampe and Jerry King.

^It's quite different from the first site plan I saw a year ago.

what is there now?

A large vacant lot, a fenced off parking lot for Laclede Gas, and another large vacant lot. This used to be the site of the Laclede Gasometer, which was demolished earlier this year. That was the eastern portion anyway. The west was a large manufacturing building demolished in the late 1990s or early 2000s.

Cool. Will the townhomes discussed in the FPSE thead be across the street by donovan place? If so, this area could be really nice...

Matt Drops The H wrote:A large vacant lot, a fenced off parking lot for Laclede Gas, and another large vacant lot. This used to be the site of the Laclede Gasometer, which was demolished earlier this year. That was the eastern portion anyway. The west was a large manufacturing building demolished in the late 1990s or early 2000s.

I don't think this is the site of the gasometer itself; it appears as if this stretches from taylor to the Laclede gas building- the gasometer was on the other side of the laclede gas building. You can see the Laclede gas building, I think, as that black box on the right side of the site plan. Anyone know if this stretches all the way back to the freeway along taylor, or if there will be room for something else in there?



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Even if this rendering does not stretch to Newstead, which I guess you're right, it doesn't, the gasometer site is part of Jerry King's development. The building to the far right (east) on the site is most likely the "Station G" that he fought to save as the gasometer was torn down.



Expect the rest of the site (the gasometer site itself) to be filled with something similar if the above is not it.

MidcoastSTL wrote:Cool. Will the townhomes discussed in the FPSE thead be across the street by donovan place? If so, this area could be really nice...

Yes, to the east of the Station G building will be townhomes/rowhouses. I believe these to be for sale condos/homes. I've been told that there will be ~6 buildings with 4-6 units each. The area around Donovan may see similar development, though I think part of that area is still under consideration as a small park, with amenities from Hudlin to be relocated there. This is a huge building and a different looking/purpose development on the east end will be welcome to prevent this from becoming a super-block.



The 350 parking spots will be for residents and retail. There is quite a lot of street parking available, but I would imagine that as the area is developed much of it will be transformed into neighborhood permit parking.



This development does not extend all the way to 64. The area currently fenced off (~1/3 the Taylor street frontage of this project) is planned to be a BJC/WU office building.

Just because something is made of brick and has a hipped roof doesn't make it faux historic. This building would never be mistaken for anything other than new construction. Let's just be glad they are taking the context of the neighborhood into account when choosing materials and scale and not creating something like the Dogtown Monstrosity.

I am not satisfied with the Mill's proposal, but I think this one is just fine. It's boring, but this is a location for those buildings that aren't great pieces of work but build density.

dmmonty1 wrote:Just because something is made of brick and has a hipped roof doesn't make it faux historic. This building would never be mistaken for anything other than new construction. Let's just be glad they are taking the context of the neighborhood into account when choosing materials and scale and not creating something like the Dogtown Monstrosity.

Agreed! The one in dogtown is awful.

I like the first picture, too.

Bastiat wrote:The first picture looks great...the others...like retirement homes.

Yeah, the first pic somewhat resembles the McCormack Baron development at Sarah and Laclede - one of the better infill projects in recent years - and the rest, like you said, looks like a retirement home.

The corners look good, especially the one with the glass turret. I'm assuming that will face the Taylor and Chouteau corner.



Like others, I'm not crazy about the hipped roofs along the sides. It's funny -- in suburban developments hipped roofs are definitely classier, and more expensive, than a simple gable or flat roof. But in the urban context they look like a design cop-out.



Overall though this is a very good potential development. If the other barren corner lot is developed then the south side of Chouteau would be primed for redevelopment of its historic buildings.