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PostAug 22, 2010#276

^ Fully agree with that. Which is why I'm rather concerned in seeing this competition as an opportunity to get EStL going somewhere positive. Of course, this project is about the Arch Grounds as a National Park in a major Downtown first. Meanwhile, this is probably the greatest opportunity for EStL to experience any tangible economic redevelopment in decades (outside of the Casino Queen). There really isn't anything else out there that could actively prompt that city economically, let alone be a possible opportunity for growth.

As far as the rest of StL (and much of the US) is concerned, if given the choice, many people would be hard split between being which is worse off: Baghdad or EStL. And as the Near East Side slides further down, the harder it is for Downtown StL, being proximate, to continue to grow.

If by 2020 we can have families from Chesterfield driving to EStL, intentionally, for family fun, and then being able to stop off at a (believe it or not) local restaurant in EStL proper before heading home, then we really are working for the developmental change that we need. Aiming high? That may be above the clouds right now, but who knows where we'll be a decade from now.

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PostSep 23, 2010#277

WOW. How depressing is this selection? what was even the point of the competition? they could have hired Joe Blow MissouRAH to come up with this plan. This looks like something that Cape Girardeau would do. just when I thought St. Louis was thinking BIG again. something to match the internationally recognized gateway arch, we come up with something that will attract ZERO additional people. and the "farmers market" on the waterfront. sounds like a lame attempt at being modern and fresh..wow..

I can understand that over photoshopped images are often pie in the sky, but this plan is just pathetic. it's like save the money, and don't even bother. who in the HELL would go to a farmers market along the riverfront?! The one on Post-Office Plaza is barely surviving.. adjacent to ALL of the downtown residents. and the cutesy "natural water waterways" look around the ponds, which clearly fly in the face of the original arch grounds 1960's design. Removing the garage, where TONS of downtown workers park, is ridiculous too. Now the Landing will have an even HARDER time attracting office tenants.. this is a cheap alternative for workers east of 70...

All in all, this brings NO MORE PEOPLE downtown... truly a missed opportunity. here's to keeping it as is until funds are available to do something good. CLEARLY there's no way we could build the Arch today...One thing i just saw, I actually DO like the new entrance and expanded museum but that's IT. why can't they do an amphitheater facing the arch? talk about a place SECOND to Redrocks.. maybe even better. what wasted potential.. there are plenty of "Green pathways that can be built in other areas. a metroride to the eastside for concerts is CLEARLY possible.

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