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KansasCitian wrote: ↑

Dec 10, 2021

If so, why can't St. Louis City do this? Why can't they eliminate parking minimums and new drive-thrus?

urban_dilettante wrote: ↑

Dec 10, 2021

^ if you were to eliminate drive-thrus a good chunk of the population would riot and/or starve to death. not saying we shouldn't, tho...

moorlander wrote: ↑

Dec 10, 2021

wabash wrote:

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Dec 10, 2021

Make it 12 floors so that it meets the form based code

Sadly I really don't see that assuaging any of the knee jerk obstructionist fears. So many were outraged and horrified ("It's a slaughterhouse!!") by the proposal I don't think you'd see any signs of thawing until something materially different, at the very least closer to the Moonrise's 7-8 stories.

Bring the height down to 7-8 stories and the parking up to .5 spaces per bedroom and voila! an uneconomic project that the developer won't pursue.

Either that or actually implement an FBC allowing for 12 stories, providing a presumption of compliance.

What does “it’s a Slaughterhouse!!” mean in this context?

gone corporate wrote:What does the Skinker-Debalaiviere business community have to say here? Noting that these include restaurants on the south side of Delmar, perhaps they could chime in and say that these potential new residents would be welcome likely consumers of their goods, especially restaurants. Perhaps they can also comment on the impact of the Everly's residents on their businesses, that having 200+ apartments right there has benefitted their businesses more than they've hurt them (if at all). Have the NIMBYs look the local business community in the eyes and say they're against their new revenue potential. 

Also, could a poll be taken of the SDNC to know which of them had a car when they were in college? I bet they didn't all have one. I didn't for most of my college time, and I was in a small town in Ohio without any public transportation out of the zip code. 

What if you get Wash U students to sign on stating that they'd like this building more than they'd like that parking lot? 
What if you get Everly residents to sign on stating how much they enjoy living in that style of building? 

I'm writing in support of the proposed apartment building at Delmar and SKinker. I've long walked by the property longing for something more productive for our neighborhood and city. I've been proud of the hard work neighbors, landlords, business owners, institutions, and politicians have done over the decades to set up the tools that we have used to turn away less-than proposals as well as creating a place worthy of an investment of this magnitude. Opus's developments in the CWE and Clayton turned out very nice.

The added population will add eyes on the street, patrons for businesses and vitality to the Loop which has been devastated by the pandemic. Taxable sales in the Loop Trolley TDD were down 50% in 2020 compared to 2019. More people living closer to useful things means less driving and less traffic as other modes become practical- an absolute necessity as we combat climate change.

I wager the building will appeal to higher end tenants who otherwise might bid up rents in the neighborhood. For those who don't occupy an apartment in the neighborhood, that means one is available to someone who might rent in a single family student rental.

This development and its residents will add tax base for the East Loop CID, the Trolley TDD, the SLPS, and the city as a whole. Higher land productivity is the only way we're going to be able to afford the infrastructure and services we'd like in our city.

I hope this development happens and builds the momentum for more, especially to the east as this will help bridge Skinker. Maybe next will be the vacant lot next to Swade, or east of Rosedale to the Metrolink station.

quincunx wrote: ↑

Mar 28, 2022

I made those arguments at one of the meetings. 

I'm writing in support of the proposed apartment building at Delmar and SKinker. I've long walked by the property longing for something more productive for our neighborhood and city. I've been proud of the hard work neighbors, landlords, business owners, institutions, and politicians have done over the decades to set up the tools that we have used to turn away less-than proposals as well as creating a place worthy of an investment of this magnitude. Opus's developments in the CWE and Clayton turned out very nice.

The added population will add eyes on the street, patrons for businesses and vitality to the Loop which has been devastated by the pandemic. Taxable sales in the Loop Trolley TDD were down 50% in 2020 compared to 2019. More people living closer to useful things means less driving and less traffic as other modes become practical- an absolute necessity as we combat climate change.

I wager the building will appeal to higher end tenants who otherwise might bid up rents in the neighborhood. For those who don't occupy an apartment in the neighborhood, that means one is available to someone who might rent in a single family student rental.

This development and its residents will add tax base for the East Loop CID, the Trolley TDD, the SLPS, and the city as a whole. Higher land productivity is the only way we're going to be able to afford the infrastructure and services we'd like in our city.

I hope this development happens and builds the momentum for more, especially to the east as this will help bridge Skinker. Maybe next will be the vacant lot next to Swade, or east of Rosedale to the Metrolink station.

I was hopeful that the FBC would make something along the lines of the Opus project by right, but I'm hearing the NIMBYs are making headway at watering it down. 

I wonder what developer would want to waste their resources proposing something there at this point.

Grassroots campaign? I couldn't get one other person to speak out against a drive thru a block from a Metrolink station, so I'm a tad bah humbug on that idea.