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PostDec 09, 2015#26

Bravo!

Like I said before........if you are going to build 'em short, design 'em sweet.

This is current and sweet!

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PostDec 09, 2015#27

Looks nice...but what's with the tiny balconies on the South facade?

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PostDec 09, 2015#28

Fun fact: the lot and the one next to it used to have twenty matching townhouses with a little bit of retail on the corner, so the world is coming full circle (albeit slightly more dense with 54 units). The townhouses down the block from 4155 to 4147 Laclede are each pretty similar to what was there. All were built around 1905, each is about 2200sqft and valued at around $275K.
1909 Sanborn map:

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PostDec 09, 2015#29

For those of us who have bitched about design in the city recently, rejoice! This looks awesome.

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PostDec 09, 2015#30

framer wrote:Looks nice...but what's with the tiny balconies on the South facade?
It looks as if the balconies are off the staircase.

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PostDec 09, 2015#31

stlhistory wrote:Fun fact: the lot and the one next to it used to have twenty matching townhouses with a little bit of retail on the corner, so the world is coming full circle (albeit slightly more dense with 54 units). The townhouses down the block from 4155 to 4147 Laclede are each pretty similar to what was there. All were built around 1905, each is about 2200sqft and valued at around $275K.
1909 Sanborn map:
When were they demolished? And why?

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PostDec 09, 2015#32

roger wyoming II wrote:
stlhistory wrote:Fun fact: the lot and the one next to it used to have twenty matching townhouses with a little bit of retail on the corner, so the world is coming full circle (albeit slightly more dense with 54 units). The townhouses down the block from 4155 to 4147 Laclede are each pretty similar to what was there. All were built around 1905, each is about 2200sqft and valued at around $275K.
1909 Sanborn map:
When were they demolished? And why?
Greenspace.

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PostDec 09, 2015#33

Think this colored brick might be the material used on the exterior?


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PostDec 09, 2015#34

^Looks like it to me. The bricks look kinda funny in the rendering, but I'm sure they'll blend together in real life. Good looking building.

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PostDec 09, 2015#35

josh.wafer wrote: When were they demolished? And why?
Greenspace.[/quote]

Do you know about how long ago?

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PostDec 09, 2015#36

As a potentially helpful data point, the Demun Pointe development at 6451 Clayton Rd. (designed by St. Louis' own Core10 Architecture) was built in 2007-2008 for $13.9-$15 million and used real iron colored brick. That development was a bit smaller at 3.5 stories and 29 units - although the units were significantly bigger, ranging from 1,200 - 2,300 sq. ft.

$16 million seemed low to me for this proposal, but in light of the Demun Pointe development cost and execution, I think it could turn out pretty well.

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PostDec 09, 2015#37

MUCH better than what was previously proposed for this site.

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PostDec 09, 2015#38

roger wyoming II wrote:
josh.wafer wrote: When were they demolished? And why?
Greenspace.
Do you know about how long ago?[/quote]
Oh, I don't know. My parents moved to the city in '75, and my father, as an idealistic young architect always imagined some kind of mixed use building on that site. So they were gone by then.

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PostDec 09, 2015#39

^ thanks.

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PostDec 09, 2015#40

Sometime between 1958 and 1971

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PostDec 11, 2015#41

1959 tornado? It took out a swatch moving north-northeast from about there.

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PostJan 28, 2016#42

Here is the website for the property. The main page has two enlarged renders (with more detail) which I'd post here if I knew how to.



http://4101laclede.com/

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PostJan 28, 2016#43

^ I like it!

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PostJan 29, 2016#45

Are those planters or has someone moved some concrete medians and lined them up in front of the building? Why put trees on the building side of the sidewalk when the noisy cars are on the other side? Otherwise that's some of the best St. Louis infill I've seen.

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PostJan 29, 2016#46

Those are walk up town homes, so they are most likely dividers for the homes' porch from the sidewalk...

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PostMar 09, 2016#47

Looks like this is moving forward; they've erected a "Coming Soon" sign at the site.

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PostMar 09, 2016#48

^ I believe Tim Bryant's PD building block update on the project stated that groundbreaking will be based on pre sales but definitely some confidence.

It will be interesting to see how well this does. Developer dropping the old Maryland school lot in Clayton because of opposition might create an opening for some more CWE townhouse, attached, acondo projects if you only see high rise/mid rise apartment offerings in and around Clayton CBD.

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PostMay 01, 2016#49

Trees have been cleared from the site.

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PostMay 19, 2016#50

4101 Laclede has a slick website up and taking names
http://4101laclede.com/

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