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PostJan 20, 2025#251

The person doing the sabotaging that you can’t fire because of civil service rules?

The mayor should still fire the director of streets and go through whatever the civil service process is to get rid of the streets commissioner

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PostJan 20, 2025#252

Fair enough. 

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PostJan 20, 2025#253

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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addxb2 wrote:
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Why would the streets commissioner sabotage the response of the person who hired her?
The street commissioner is not the same position as the director of streets, the person the mayor hires and can fire.   Streets commissioner cannot be fired by the mayor. And the current, Kent Flake has been in the role for a while and in charge of plowing
Flake has been Streets Commissioner since at least 2016. That's the earliest I can find articles with him in that position.

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PostJan 21, 2025#254

campaign office for the Spencer mayoral run owes the city $21,000 for 2024 and $3,000 for 2023 in property taxes. Alder Spencer few weeks ago was riding on a high horse and saying city shouldn’t do business with those that owe taxes.

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PostJan 21, 2025#255

dbInSouthCity wrote:campaign office for the Spencer mayoral run owes the city $21,000 for 2024 and $3,000 for 2023 in property taxes. Alder Spencer few weeks ago was riding on a high horse and saying city shouldn’t do business with those that owe taxes.
This does seem to happen fairly often to politicians. Such a bad, unforced error on their part.

She’s right though, we shouldn’t be doing business with those that owe taxes.

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PostJan 21, 2025#256

Maybe it's just me but I haven't seen a single Tishaura Jones yard sign yet. . I realize her campaign may have been purposely holding back on getting those out until closer to the election, but after all the negative press with her handling of the snowstorm getting people to take those signs now is likely much tougher.

It's anecdotal but Ive heard some previous Jones supporters say they aren't going to go out of their way for her now.

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PostJan 21, 2025#257

Baltimore Jack wrote:
Jan 21, 2025
Maybe it's just me but I haven't seen a single Tishaura Jones yard sign yet. . I realize her campaign may have been purposely holding back on getting those out until closer to the election, but after all the negative press with her handling of the snowstorm getting people to take those signs now is likely much tougher.

It's anecdotal but Ive heard some previous Jones supporters say they aren't going to go out of their way for her now.
I've only seen "I like Mike" signs so yea it's very anecdotal lmao.

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PostJan 21, 2025#258

Snow may have slowed down things a bit but I expect this race to go full speed by end of this month and especially after board adjourns on Feb 8

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PostJan 21, 2025#259

Auggie wrote:
Jan 21, 2025
Baltimore Jack wrote:
Jan 21, 2025
Maybe it's just me but I haven't seen a single Tishaura Jones yard sign yet. . I realize her campaign may have been purposely holding back on getting those out until closer to the election, but after all the negative press with her handling of the snowstorm getting people to take those signs now is likely much tougher.

It's anecdotal but Ive heard some previous Jones supporters say they aren't going to go out of their way for her now.
I've only seen "I like Mike" signs so yea it's very anecdotal lmao.
Yes I've seen the "I Like Mike" signs but there are quite a few Spencer signs out--especially in Soulard anc Benton Park

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PostJan 22, 2025#260

Just thought I'd report in by saying my street in FPSE is still literally covered in thick ice, as our many of my neighbors sidewalks. There is nothing urbanist about this poor response. I would also love to see road diets, sure, but preferably with lanes that don't unpredictably end and begin. And no joke, just a few days ago, we still had a friend get stuck driving on our street. It is no better since then. I mean, come on, it has been over two weeks. I sure do hope that whatever salt or plowing was happening is still happening, but we're not holding our breath. It as been consistently brought up by others around us as impacting their stance on the mayoral race too.

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PostJan 22, 2025#261

brianadler6545 wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Just thought I'd report in by saying my street in FPSE is still literally covered in thick ice, as our many of my neighbors sidewalks. There is nothing urbanist about this poor response. I would also love to see road diets, sure, but preferably with lanes that don't unpredictably end and begin. And no joke, just a few days ago, we still had a friend get stuck driving on our street. It is no better since then. I mean, come on, it has been over two weeks. I sure do hope that whatever salt or plowing was happening is still happening, but we're not holding our breath. It as been consistently brought up by others around us as impacting their stance on the mayoral race too.
Salting doesn't work when it's 0 degrees like it's been the last few days and plows can't plow "thick ice".

Your sidewalks aren't clear because you didn't do your job and shovel them. Idk why you expect the city to go above and beyond doing things they've never done before (plowing side streets) when you apparently don't care to shovel your own sidewalk.

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PostJan 22, 2025#262

Auggie wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
brianadler6545 wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Just thought I'd report in by saying my street in FPSE is still literally covered in thick ice, as our many of my neighbors sidewalks. There is nothing urbanist about this poor response. I would also love to see road diets, sure, but preferably with lanes that don't unpredictably end and begin. And no joke, just a few days ago, we still had a friend get stuck driving on our street. It is no better since then. I mean, come on, it has been over two weeks. I sure do hope that whatever salt or plowing was happening is still happening, but we're not holding our breath. It as been consistently brought up by others around us as impacting their stance on the mayoral race too.
Salting doesn't work when it's 0 degrees like it's been the last few days and plows can't plow "thick ice".

Your sidewalks aren't clear because you didn't do your job and shovel them. Idk why you expect the city to go above and beyond doing things they've never done before (plowing side streets) when you apparently don't care to shovel your own sidewalk.
1) I did take care my my own sidewalk, but presumably neighbors who are disabled cannot 
2) It has, several times, not been 0 degrees and has, at times, been above freezing in the last 15+ days
Look here's the thing you fail to grasp: public spaces in the city are being poorly maintained and there is a real lack of safety that results. It's not unreasonable that people care abou this.
It's truly insane that some folks fail to see something this long-lasting, this dangerous, as anything but a failure. That doesn't mean the whole administration is bad, or that the last several years have been bad, but this response was and continues to be bad. There have been multiple opportunities for things to be handled differently. 

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PostJan 22, 2025#263

brianadler6545 wrote:
Auggie wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
brianadler6545 wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Just thought I'd report in by saying my street in FPSE is still literally covered in thick ice, as our many of my neighbors sidewalks. There is nothing urbanist about this poor response. I would also love to see road diets, sure, but preferably with lanes that don't unpredictably end and begin. And no joke, just a few days ago, we still had a friend get stuck driving on our street. It is no better since then. I mean, come on, it has been over two weeks. I sure do hope that whatever salt or plowing was happening is still happening, but we're not holding our breath. It as been consistently brought up by others around us as impacting their stance on the mayoral race too.
Salting doesn't work when it's 0 degrees like it's been the last few days and plows can't plow "thick ice".

Your sidewalks aren't clear because you didn't do your job and shovel them. Idk why you expect the city to go above and beyond doing things they've never done before (plowing side streets) when you apparently don't care to shovel your own sidewalk.
1) I did take care my my own sidewalk, but presumably neighbors who are disabled cannot 
2) It has, several times, not been 0 degrees and has, at times, been above freezing in the last 15+ days
Look here's the thing you fail to grasp: public spaces in the city are being poorly maintained and there is a real lack of safety that results. It's not unreasonable that people care abou this.
It's truly insane that some folks fail to see something this long-lasting, this dangerous, as anything but a failure. That doesn't mean the whole administration is bad, or that the last several years have been bad, but this response was and continues to be bad. There have been multiple opportunities for things to be handled differently. 
I agree. To me, Cara is just as responsible as Tishuara for our level of preparedness for this storm since she’s been an alderman for a decade.

I think it’s fair to hold Tishaura accountable for some of the personnel and communication opportunities throughout this storm.

I’d love to see both candidates share what they’ve learned and what they would do differently the next time around.

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PostJan 22, 2025#264

Auggie wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
brianadler6545 wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Just thought I'd report in by saying my street in FPSE is still literally covered in thick ice, as our many of my neighbors sidewalks. There is nothing urbanist about this poor response. I would also love to see road diets, sure, but preferably with lanes that don't unpredictably end and begin. And no joke, just a few days ago, we still had a friend get stuck driving on our street. It is no better since then. I mean, come on, it has been over two weeks. I sure do hope that whatever salt or plowing was happening is still happening, but we're not holding our breath. It as been consistently brought up by others around us as impacting their stance on the mayoral race too.
Salting doesn't work when it's 0 degrees like it's been the last few days and plows can't plow "thick ice".

Your sidewalks aren't clear because you didn't do your job and shovel them. Idk why you expect the city to go above and beyond doing things they've never done before (plowing side streets) when you apparently don't care to shovel your own sidewalk.
None of the city services are done well and nobody expects the city to go above and beyond. Our leaders have ideas in their heads that are above and beyond of their scope. They need to focus on essential city services so that they are done in a timely manner. 

We haven't had a day below 0 yet and we even had days in the 40s and 50s. Salt does work and should have been used everywhere. 

Whoever is in charge of streets is responsible if they have the authority to use all the equipment and money needed to tackle an event like this. If approval needed to come from the mayor to appropriately deal with several inches of ice still covering a ton of streets then the mayor should be held accountable. 

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PostJan 22, 2025#265

Has Jones made any statements about the storm response?

People expect a mayor to lead and if there have been mistakes or oversight to fess up to them and promise to be better the next time.

If that's happened here I haven't seen it.

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PostJan 22, 2025#266

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Jan 22, 2025
Has Jones made any statements about the storm response?

People expect a mayor to lead and if there have been mistakes or oversight to fess up to them and promise to be better the next time.

If that's happened here I haven't seen it.
She’s literally doing daily videos giving updates on what’s being done

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PostJan 22, 2025#267

brianadler6545 wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Auggie wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
brianadler6545 wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Just thought I'd report in by saying my street in FPSE is still literally covered in thick ice, as our many of my neighbors sidewalks. There is nothing urbanist about this poor response. I would also love to see road diets, sure, but preferably with lanes that don't unpredictably end and begin. And no joke, just a few days ago, we still had a friend get stuck driving on our street. It is no better since then. I mean, come on, it has been over two weeks. I sure do hope that whatever salt or plowing was happening is still happening, but we're not holding our breath. It as been consistently brought up by others around us as impacting their stance on the mayoral race too.
Salting doesn't work when it's 0 degrees like it's been the last few days and plows can't plow "thick ice".

Your sidewalks aren't clear because you didn't do your job and shovel them. Idk why you expect the city to go above and beyond doing things they've never done before (plowing side streets) when you apparently don't care to shovel your own sidewalk.
1) I did take care my my own sidewalk, but presumably neighbors who are disabled cannot 
2) It has, several times, not been 0 degrees and has, at times, been above freezing in the last 15+ days
Look here's the thing you fail to grasp: public spaces in the city are being poorly maintained and there is a real lack of safety that results. It's not unreasonable that people care abou this.
It's truly insane that some folks fail to see something this long-lasting, this dangerous, as anything but a failure. That doesn't mean the whole administration is bad, or that the last several years have been bad, but this response was and continues to be bad. There have been multiple opportunities for things to be handled differently. 
Here's what you fail to grasp. I live in the city and have been driving and walking around the city for the last 2 weeks. Drove to worm the morning of both day 1 and 2 with 0 issue on the city's streets.

What you are saying us simply not reality for most people. And then not you specifically but others on here just keep making up different things to b**** about, such as "not ALL the lanes on my oversized road are plowed" or "my parking lane isn't plowed" or "they pushed snow up on the sidewalk".

PostJan 22, 2025#268

flipz wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Auggie wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
brianadler6545 wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Just thought I'd report in by saying my street in FPSE is still literally covered in thick ice, as our many of my neighbors sidewalks. There is nothing urbanist about this poor response. I would also love to see road diets, sure, but preferably with lanes that don't unpredictably end and begin. And no joke, just a few days ago, we still had a friend get stuck driving on our street. It is no better since then. I mean, come on, it has been over two weeks. I sure do hope that whatever salt or plowing was happening is still happening, but we're not holding our breath. It as been consistently brought up by others around us as impacting their stance on the mayoral race too.
Salting doesn't work when it's 0 degrees like it's been the last few days and plows can't plow "thick ice".

Your sidewalks aren't clear because you didn't do your job and shovel them. Idk why you expect the city to go above and beyond doing things they've never done before (plowing side streets) when you apparently don't care to shovel your own sidewalk.
None of the city services are done well and nobody expects the city to go above and beyond. Our leaders have ideas in their heads that are above and beyond of their scope. They need to focus on essential city services so that they are done in a timely manner. 

We haven't had a day below 0 yet and we even had days in the 40s and 50s. Salt does work and should have been used everywhere. 

Whoever is in charge of streets is responsible if they have the authority to use all the equipment and money needed to tackle an event like this. If approval needed to come from the mayor to appropriately deal with several inches of ice still covering a ton of streets then the mayor should be held accountable. 
We had 1 a whopping 1 day where it reached the 50s and then it immediately went down to single digets and all refroze, then stayed that cold for several days straight. Good try tho.

PostJan 22, 2025#269

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Jan 22, 2025
Has Jones made any statements about the storm response?

People expect a mayor to lead and if there have been mistakes or oversight to fess up to them and promise to be better the next time.

If that's happened here I haven't seen it.
You should maybe get an idea about what you're talking about before you make assertions.

PostJan 22, 2025#270

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Baltimore Jack wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Has Jones made any statements about the storm response?

People expect a mayor to lead and if there have been mistakes or oversight to fess up to them and promise to be better the next time.

If that's happened here I haven't seen it.
She’s literally doing daily videos giving updates on what’s being done
Figments of your imagination, apparently.

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PostJan 22, 2025#271

Auggie wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
brianadler6545 wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Just thought I'd report in by saying my street in FPSE is still literally covered in thick ice, as our many of my neighbors sidewalks. There is nothing urbanist about this poor response. I would also love to see road diets, sure, but preferably with lanes that don't unpredictably end and begin. And no joke, just a few days ago, we still had a friend get stuck driving on our street. It is no better since then. I mean, come on, it has been over two weeks. I sure do hope that whatever salt or plowing was happening is still happening, but we're not holding our breath. It as been consistently brought up by others around us as impacting their stance on the mayoral race too.
Salting doesn't work when it's 0 degrees like it's been the last few days and plows can't plow "thick ice".

Your sidewalks aren't clear because you didn't do your job and shovel them. Idk why you expect the city to go above and beyond doing things they've never done before (plowing side streets) when you apparently don't care to shovel your own sidewalk.
Salting last night and then plowing Hickory this morning certainly made my street safe for residents or anyone who needed to access the otherwise 2-3 inch thick sheet of ice that was there.  The is now a to the pavement path on our two block stretch.

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PostJan 22, 2025#272

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Baltimore Jack wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Has Jones made any statements about the storm response?

People expect a mayor to lead and if there have been mistakes or oversight to fess up to them and promise to be better the next time.

If that's happened here I haven't seen it.
She’s literally doing daily videos giving updates on what’s being done
Where do I find these?

PostJan 22, 2025#273

Auggie wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
brianadler6545 wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Auggie wrote:
Jan 22, 2025

Salting doesn't work when it's 0 degrees like it's been the last few days and plows can't plow "thick ice".

Your sidewalks aren't clear because you didn't do your job and shovel them. Idk why you expect the city to go above and beyond doing things they've never done before (plowing side streets) when you apparently don't care to shovel your own sidewalk.
1) I did take care my my own sidewalk, but presumably neighbors who are disabled cannot 
2) It has, several times, not been 0 degrees and has, at times, been above freezing in the last 15+ days
Look here's the thing you fail to grasp: public spaces in the city are being poorly maintained and there is a real lack of safety that results. It's not unreasonable that people care abou this.
It's truly insane that some folks fail to see something this long-lasting, this dangerous, as anything but a failure. That doesn't mean the whole administration is bad, or that the last several years have been bad, but this response was and continues to be bad. There have been multiple opportunities for things to be handled differently. 
Here's what you fail to grasp. I live in the city and have been driving and walking around the city for the last 2 weeks. Drove to worm the morning of both day 1 and 2 with 0 issue on the city's streets.

What you are saying us simply not reality for most people. And then not you specifically but others on here just keep making up different things to b**** about, such as "not ALL the lanes on my oversized road are plowed" or "my parking lane isn't plowed" or "they pushed snow up on the sidewalk".
I live in Holly Hills. My neighborhood and the adjacent neighborhoods (Southampton, Princeton Heights, Boulevard Heights, Patch, Carondelet) are still ice skating rinks on most side streets. I haven't ventured west of Hampton or North of Chippewa, so can't speak to those areas. 

I'm glad you haven't encountered any problems and I understand your frustration with the haters. However, if your attitude is representative of the Mayor and her supporters, then "the greatest mayor in a century" will be a one-termer.

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PostJan 22, 2025#274

SB in BH wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
dbInSouthCity wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Baltimore Jack wrote:
Jan 22, 2025
Has Jones made any statements about the storm response?

People expect a mayor to lead and if there have been mistakes or oversight to fess up to them and promise to be better the next time.

If that's happened here I haven't seen it.
She’s literally doing daily videos giving updates on what’s being done
Where do I find these?
Most are posted here with other regular status updates
https://www.instagram.com/stlcitygov?ig ... M5cXplejZq

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PostJan 22, 2025#275

Thanks. Explains why I haven't seen it. Maybe I'm just a dinosaur destined for the soilent green factory, but I humbly suggest they consider adding non-social media sites to their external comms outlets. Simply posting these on her page on the city's website would be good. 

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