Is there a contest underway for who will play the Jane Dueker role during the Spencer admin?
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Based on reddit comments, I think Unseen STL History/Jackie Dana wants the role but I'm not sure she's been formally invited to take it on.quincunx wrote: ↑May 01, 2025Is there a contest underway for who will play the Jane Dueker role during the Spencer admin?
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Not at Streets. If I had a choice I’d put him at BPS President (also would need to be an interim for duration)addxb2 wrote: ↑May 01, 2025Then to your point above… he would’ve been a great interim pick?dbInSouthCity wrote:Scott wouldn’t be eligible since he isn’t a PE.
Didn't Berthany have the same problem of not being a PE? How did that end up getting resolved? Or am I misremembering something?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 01, 2025Not at Streets. If I had a choice I’d put him at BPS President (also would need to be an interim for duration)addxb2 wrote: ↑May 01, 2025Then to your point above… he would’ve been a great interim pick?dbInSouthCity wrote:Scott wouldn’t be eligible since he isn’t a PE.
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Ex-St. Louis mayor Tishaura Jones blasts voters for turning on Black women
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 95107.html
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 95107.html
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I mean I wish Cara was ready to go out of the gate with all the right hires, but given that's not the case, putting in old directors as interims is a perfectly reasonable strat. Familiarity with the dept, familiarity with people, little chance of scandal, and not gonna get upset when they get the nod to go. Buys time to be thorough about new hires. More destructive to keep people you know you're gonna fire around in the meantime. What a non-issue.
It took a long time to find a new police chief. I think it was worth the wait.
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Listen, a guy that retired in 2006 is not going to familiar with the department nor a guy who’s ran something at garden is not going to know anything about city opts and this is already the case, city hall residents all say these are nice and smart people but have no clue about city opts.verdantruins wrote: ↑May 08, 2025I mean I wish Cara was ready to go out of the gate with all the right hires, but given that's not the case, putting in old directors as interims is a perfectly reasonable strat. Familiarity with the dept, familiarity with people, little chance of scandal, and not gonna get upset when they get the nod to go. Buys time to be thorough about new hires. More destructive to keep people you know you're gonna fire around in the meantime. What a non-issue.
Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, the way things have been done for decades hasn’t worked but that’s also a strike against bringing back a guy who was part of what hasn’t worked like her new streets Director
Yea needs to be reiterated that the issue isn't that she's putting interim people in, the issue is that she's picking elderly retirees, one of whom hasn't worked for the city in 19 years. Just makes no sense.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 08, 2025Listen, a guy that retired in 2006 is not going to familiar with the department nor a guy who’s ran something at garden is not going to know anything about city opts and this is already the case, city hall residents all say these are nice and smart people but have no clue about city opts.verdantruins wrote: ↑May 08, 2025I mean I wish Cara was ready to go out of the gate with all the right hires, but given that's not the case, putting in old directors as interims is a perfectly reasonable strat. Familiarity with the dept, familiarity with people, little chance of scandal, and not gonna get upset when they get the nod to go. Buys time to be thorough about new hires. More destructive to keep people you know you're gonna fire around in the meantime. What a non-issue.
Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, the way things have been done for decades hasn’t worked but that’s also a strike against bringing back a guy who was part of what hasn’t worked like her new streets Director
I get this is nitpicking but this quote rubbed me the wrong way a bit “ She said she is almost finished with a children’s book she was writing while in office”addxb2 wrote: ↑May 08, 2025Ex-St. Louis mayor Tishaura Jones blasts voters for turning on Black women
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 95107.html
Kind of feel like saying you had time to write a book while in office isn’t the best look with all the other complaints. Not that mayors can’t have their free time, etc.. I just think I would have left that out personally.
Not that I even have an issue with her doing it just would have left it out of this conversation for optics reasons
Reading the entire interview now…yeeesh! A couple HUNDRED cases of allowed FMLA abuse by city employees. That’s not a one person mess. Is this the riff that led to the HR Directors removal? I need more reporting on whatever this is.
“I still support it wholeheartedly. But we didn’t put in the types of guardrails to make sure that we implemented it effectively so people didn’t take advantage of it. We found out that there were a couple hundred of employees taking paid family leave to stay out of their jobs when they could have been working.”
https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... ouis-mayor
“I still support it wholeheartedly. But we didn’t put in the types of guardrails to make sure that we implemented it effectively so people didn’t take advantage of it. We found out that there were a couple hundred of employees taking paid family leave to stay out of their jobs when they could have been working.”
https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... ouis-mayor
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Wow. Jones post election interview proves we made the right choice. Zero self reflection and all blame for her loss on the voters rather than her own poor choices and campaign.
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We are less than a month into Spencer’s term. We are a long, long way from proving whether the right choice was made.Baltimore Jack wrote:Wow. Jones post election interview proves we made the right choice. Zero self reflection and all blame for her loss on the voters rather than her own poor choices and campaign.
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Sorry but Jones seems to think she bears no responsibility for her own loss. With that kind of disconnect I can't see how she would have had a successful second term.
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Bradley is a nice guy, city hall lifer yada yada yada. At the city since 1988 & leading City’s version of public works since 2009. The results speak for themselves. They suck. Im sure the list of excuses/reasons is 37 years long but there is zero vision, no plan. Nothing changes
When I was on the advisory committee for city’s capital improvements I asked Bradley if the city would be willing to spend money to get projects ready & be proactive instead of always waiting when something breaks and be reactive he said “we don’t do that”.
I spent 4.5 years leading MODOTs project development. We had a 5 year plan for every road. We spent money to get stuff ready. City does none of that. Why not? Why isn’t the public works chief coming to with a vision and a plan to pitch to the mayor and the alders?
When I was on the advisory committee for city’s capital improvements I asked Bradley if the city would be willing to spend money to get projects ready & be proactive instead of always waiting when something breaks and be reactive he said “we don’t do that”.
I spent 4.5 years leading MODOTs project development. We had a 5 year plan for every road. We spent money to get stuff ready. City does none of that. Why not? Why isn’t the public works chief coming to with a vision and a plan to pitch to the mayor and the alders?
And yet you never provided an argument to support your beliefs. Just I guess assume your opinion is infallible or something.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑May 08, 2025Wow. Jones post election interview proves we made the right choice. Zero self reflection and all blame for her loss on the voters rather than her own poor choices and campaign.
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FMLA is unpaid leave, though.addxb2 wrote: ↑May 08, 2025Reading the entire interview now…yeeesh! A couple HUNDRED cases of allowed FMLA abuse by city employees. That’s not a one person mess. Is this the riff that led to the HR Directors removal? I need more reporting on whatever this is.
“I still support it wholeheartedly. But we didn’t put in the types of guardrails to make sure that we implemented it effectively so people didn’t take advantage of it. We found out that there were a couple hundred of employees taking paid family leave to stay out of their jobs when they could have been working.”
https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... ouis-mayor
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I've told you many times Jones administration was full of unforced errors and focused on petty grievances.Auggie wrote: ↑May 09, 2025And yet you never provided an argument to support your beliefs. Just I guess assume your opinion is infallible or something.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑May 08, 2025Wow. Jones post election interview proves we made the right choice. Zero self reflection and all blame for her loss on the voters rather than her own poor choices and campaign.
If that's not a good enough argument for you I just don't care.
Are you going to hound the 64% of voters who rejected Jones for the next four years?
^^ most probably were but employees can request paid leave according to the documents provided below.
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... -leave.cfm
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... -leave.cfm
I often hear about guys in the fire service as well taking advantage of the disability system.
FMLA can be paid or unpaid depending on the type/duration. Sounds like addxb2 found the same at that site.
FMLA can be paid or unpaid depending on the type/duration. Sounds like addxb2 found the same at that site.
Re: keeping Bradley
Should also be worth mentioning, it's also bad that Jones didn't replace him. She absolutely should have. But Spencer ran on "doing better" (something Jones was already doing) and now has doubled down and made one of the same mistakes that Jones herself made.
It's not really defensible to be seemingly double downing on all these people from past administrations that put us in the less than ideal position that the city is in, especially when you claim to have the goal of "doing better".
It's not really defensible to be seemingly double downing on all these people from past administrations that put us in the less than ideal position that the city is in, especially when you claim to have the goal of "doing better".