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quincunx wrote: ↑

Aug 31, 2020

Being in a Preservation Review District doesn't mean much apparently. 

Right. Sounds like they should get rid of the "Review" part and apparently the "Preservation" part as well. 

Parking is a huge negative for the city that the remaining buildings have to make up for and/or we accept lower levels of services and infrastructure. 

I sent Marlene an email.  Whether or not she cares, is another question.

I emailed the cultural resources office. Thanks for the link.

I've emailed Marlene, as well.  I don't have any expectations, but hopefully one of us hears something back.

Let's hope what's in the permit database is a typo.

quincunx wrote: ↑

Sep 01, 2020

I've talked to two reporters about this. Hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it.

The silence speaks volumes.

Can anyone keep an eye on them? I checked them out Monday, but can't do it on a regular basis.

quincunx wrote: ↑

Sep 03, 2020

Can anyone keep an eye on them? I checked them out Monday, but can't do it on a regular basis.

It won't take long to bring these down, unfortunately, so I'm not sure it will make any difference.

Anyway, this is probably about arriving at an equitable agreement with Stonemont Financial to acquire their parking lot on the stadium site. Note that Pitch314 started acquiring the 19xx Olive parcels last year, when they first started negotiating, well before the subject of eminent domain was broached. And if it resolves a potential stadium construction delay, the city isn't going to object for a strip of mostly unremarkable buildings.

I'm thinking it's probably cheaper to acquire and level this whole block than to compensate Stonemont directly for hundreds of parking spaces. The LC could retain ownership, lease this lot to Stonemont for parking for $1 a year at say 5-10 years, and then build their Soccer Village Phase II or III on it later...

But in the end, wasn't this supposed to go before the CRO at any rate? They shouldn't be pulling bricks before that's approved.  Then, of course, we've got that dumbass on 4th just taking apart his own building by himself.

They aren't Union Station, I agree. They're the sort of buildings that make a city a "city." We're being marketed that St. Louis CITY SC is for the city, that the stadium helps the areas surrounding it. it's hypocritical to then to contribute to its ruination and insolvency. And for what? The thing that has done so much of the ruining and bankrupting- cars.

^ something smells really fishy about all this. "Both alders are aware" and "CRO has not approved the permits" so whey the hell does the city website say permits have been issued? clearly the owners don't give a sh*t about fines and litigation or they wouldn't be trying to demo without approval.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense. The plumbing permits have disappeared from the Assessor's property lookup site

Crews were out digging in Olive today for the tap destroys, so they appear to be full steam ahead to try to get these buildings demolished.

So is nobody going to answer for this?  Not that I should be surprised...

I figure these were among the buildings along Olive that got shaved to widen Olive. Check out Olive at 12th to compare east and west to get a sense of how much was chopped off.

quincunx wrote:I figure these were among the buildings along Olive that got shaved to widen Olive. Check out Olive at 12th to compare east and west to get a sense of how much was chopped off.

Guess they came back to finish the job...


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Can someone file an injunction? I guess the city is the only one who could do that?