I'm having trouble picturing this - is it the old Mickey's?? Or the building that had the BBQ joint at street level?

I'm not sure if this vantage point helps, but it is the building directly behind the Digital Realty cloud hotel on Tucker that also houses the Post Office.



I don't recall any restaurants there during my years in this joint but it is just up the street a bit from the old Tanner B's. There have been some law offices in there but I don't think occupancy was very high. The new law firm buying it says they are considering some retail in addition to their offices and the apartments but they weren't sure about that yet.

roger wyoming II wrote:I'm not sure if this vantage point helps, but it is the building directly behind the Digital Realty cloud hotel on Tucker that also houses the Post Office.



I don't recall any restaurants there during my years in this joint but it is just up the street a bit from the old Tanner B's. There have been some law offices in there but I don't think occupancy was very high. The new law firm buying it says they are considering some retail in addition to their offices and the apartments but they weren't sure about that yet.

Ah, right, I've forgotten that was there.

btw Mickey's was in the other building before Tanner B's. The BBQ joint (and before that, Procopio's restaurant) was in a different building.

That stretch is challenging. The opposite side of the street is the huge AT&T garage. With that and all the surface parking, that little section of Pine is not particularly inviting.

Drove by there tonight and noticed an outline on the wall of what may have been a building on the east side (parking lot now). Was there a building ever attached to this one?

dbInSouthCity wrote:Drove by there tonight and noticed an outline on the wall of what may have been a building on the east side (parking lot now). Was there a building ever attached to this one?

You can see it in the picture RW posted above. Looks like it was the type of building that was all over downtown way back when. Maybe just a little 2 or 3 story building.

roger wyoming II wrote:here's an article on the development:

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... lding.html

Randy Gori, partner of the firm, said Gori Julian & Associates would likely benefit from being in close proximity to Saint Louis University’s School of Law facility at 100 N. Tucker.

“By building an office in the downtown area, not only do we intend to file more cases in St. Louis, but we will also be bringing more jobs to St. Louis and investing in the future of the downtown area,” Gori said.

That's a nice thing to read, innit?

-RBB

I wonder if this in part to Illinois budget issues? My thought is it might get to the point if it isn't already that the metro east court system might not hear or deal with civil cases on a timely basis and the law firm wants to a physical presence on the other side of the river to hedge its business..

This statement might be better suited for the state of region thread but the Illinois budget mess can't be helpful to the region as a whole. I would assume my wishful thought of an Illinois metrolink expansion to Edwardsville/SIUE would be off the table for another decade or so, or state support for higher speed rail improvements between Alton and downtown

^Based on their statement, which RBB highlighted above, it sounds like a few successful alums wanting to expand their firm, but also nurture and support their relationship with their alma mater and its students. What better way is there to support SLU law than enhancing its immediate surroundings and providing mentorship, internships, clerkships, and ultimately jobs to its grads?

Here's a picture from 1917 of the 1100 block of Pine from 12th (now Tucker). 1133 is next to the Hotel Meramec:


1917 - St. Louis, Pine Street East of 12th by carlylehold, on Flickr

-RBB

roger wyoming II wrote:^ thanks for the history on the restaurants.... I agree that stretch is challenging; the same can be said for the 1100 blocks of Olive and Locust as density kind of peters out before Tucker. It'd be great to build on the surface lots at the corners of 11th.

Anyway, it's great to see the two projects on that stretch of Pine and hopefully they'll be successful; I wonder how the newly opened one is doing with occupancy.

The fact that the west side of 11th Street has been almost completely decimated really hurts those blocks. I'd love to have the Miss Hullings building at 11th and Locust back.

^ that photo was taken in 1997 (!!!) a few weeks after demolition had begun:

http://preservationresearch.com/2009/04 ... -building/

^ unreal....this shows that St. Louis in many ways is just in the infancy of thinking like a real city. It will take years before we make the changes needed to be a successful city.

the 90's were not kind to downtown St. Louis.

Was there any privet investment downtown in the 90s

^The only projects I can think of are Metrolink, Eagleton Courthouse (which didn't officially open until 2000), and The Dome/America's Center. So to answer your question: no.

wabash wrote:^The only projects I can think of are Metrolink, Eagleton Courthouse (which didn't officially open until 2000), and The Dome/America's Center. So to answer your question: no.

There was progress in the 90's - just very little till the historic tax credit and Wash Ave rebuild kicked in (1998 I think, and 2002 respectively)

Private money projects that I can recall from the 90's -

Art Loft - Mid 90's
City Museum - 97 I think
One of the larger buildings on the Landing on 2nd street was completely renovated from a vacant board up
The large funky building at 14th and Papin (may have actually been started in late 80's, but it took a while to finish)
Scottrade Center was 94, but had a public portion to it
The old Post Dispatch building at Tucker and Olive was renovated in 99 - this was the building that was sheathed in curtain wall
Schlafly renovated the old swift building and opened in 91
Cupples Station renovation started in 99 after 20 years of threatened demolition
CPI building on Washington Ave was renovated in the early 90's
The 10th street lofts opened in 1999
Paul Weiss's Hot Locust building renovated in 95
Rocket Bar building renovated in 98
The Monkey building renovated on Wash Ave - sometime in late 90's
The Terra Cotta building that held the Monkey Bar - major renovation in 98
About 20 clubs opened and closed between 1990-1999 in about 8 different venues - only one (1227) predated 1990
ATT data center on West Pine east of the tower was finished in 91

Just when I was about to write this one off they submit a building permit application!