0.75% Transportation Sales Tax On the Ballot

quincunx · PostJul 22, 2014#9762014-07-22T19:54+00:00

A system with the mentality that more is always better. It matters to me because we're on be on the hook for long term maintenance of these.

Here's a blog post about the more is better approach to transportation
http://nextstl.com/2014/07/world-class- ... -system-3/

wabash · PostJul 22, 2014#9772014-07-22T19:58+00:00

What a waste of space.

dbInSouthCity · PostJul 22, 2014#9782014-07-22T20:02+00:00

quincunx wrote:A system with the mentality that more is always better. It matters to me because we're on be on the hook for long term maintenance of these.

you aren't, I'm not...people living in those districts are and their leaders approved those projects...

quincunx · PostJul 22, 2014#9792014-07-22T23:39+00:00

Antonio French ‏@AntonioFrench
Really?!

nickfindley · PostJul 23, 2014#9802014-07-23T03:02+00:00

That's so awful. But I lol'ed.

Ebsy · PostJul 23, 2014#9812014-07-23T19:44+00:00

There is also a poster strapped onto the patio railing at the now shuttered Johnny Gitto's. Maybe they are trying to imply all this new highway construction will revitalize the economy in the City?

quincunx · PostJul 23, 2014#9822014-07-23T20:23+00:00

I think it's as simple as the owners of the buildings are supporters and the irony is lost on them.

moorlander · PostJul 23, 2014#9832014-07-23T20:27+00:00

^Well pretty much everyone in a construction, engineering, trucking, government, union or logistics related field is elated with Amendment 7. I've yet to see a single "vote no" sign, commercial, billboard, or radio ad and it's no wonder why.

dbInSouthCity · PostJul 23, 2014#9842014-07-23T20:33+00:00

Yes on 7 signs like that are all over Hampton Ave South of 64.

Ebsy · PostJul 24, 2014#9852014-07-24T01:27+00:00

What is the law for Constitutional Amendments in Missouri? Do they require 2/3 of the electorate voting yes, or 50%+1?

dbInSouthCity · PostJul 24, 2014#9862014-07-24T02:38+00:00

50%+1 vote

Ebsy · PostJul 24, 2014#9872014-07-24T03:20+00:00

dbInSouthCity wrote:50%+1 vote

I'm rather glad the US constitution does not work that way.

quincunx · PostJul 24, 2014#9882014-07-24T16:29+00:00

Pro side on McGraw KTRS. Cites rising fuel economy, fails to mention inflation.

Con side on McGraw KTRS

jstriebel · PostJul 24, 2014#9892014-07-24T20:54+00:00

I keep seeing the Show-Me institute as being against this. So, is Sinquefield against this?

And if so, why isn't he pouring money into the Vote No campaign?

dweebe · PostJul 24, 2014#9902014-07-24T21:35+00:00

moorlander wrote:^Well pretty much everyone in a construction, engineering, trucking, government, union or logistics related field is elated with Amendment 7. I've yet to see a single "vote no" sign, commercial, billboard, or radio ad and it's no wonder why.

You'd think retail would have an issue.

dredger · PostJul 24, 2014#9912014-07-24T22:02+00:00

^ I'm kinda confused on that one too, the statehouse refuses to tax online sales yet it is ready to let voters decide to increase sales tax that is collected through the brick and mortar mom and pop MO stores.

dbInSouthCity · PostJul 25, 2014#9922014-07-25T00:16+00:00

Retail doesn't really care. They like better roads because of shipping. Plus it's not like they have to show this increase of their sticker price. . Price shown on a new tv at best buy is $500 on August 4th and August 6th if it passes...and $3.75 of tax that you will pay on that TV..won't stop you from buying it,

wabash · PostJul 25, 2014#9932014-07-25T02:27+00:00

^Keep pontificating, maybe you'll stumble across some truth.

dbInSouthCity · PostJul 25, 2014#9942014-07-25T02:46+00:00

Well almost every chamber of commerce across the state is for it and they rep retail and every other biz.

From the Yes on 7 website
Columbia Chamber of Commerce
Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce
Independence Chamber of Commerce
Joplin Chamber of Commerce
Missouri Chamber of Commerce and Industry
Regional Business Council
Springfield Chamber of Commerce
St. Louis Business Journal
St. Louis Regional Chamber
Greater St. Charles County Chamber of Commerce
Jefferson City Chamber of Commerce
St. Joseph Chamber of Commerce

wabash · PostJul 25, 2014#9952014-07-25T03:07+00:00

^Alright. 1) I like your edits to the first part of your statement. It's a bit less outlandish now. 2.) It's benefitting that you should use Best Buy as an example. They're being absolutely hammered by Amazon right now (as many brick and mortar retailers are), partly due to Amazon not having to pay state sales tax. How is having to charge more for their products without seeing any of the additional revenue supposed to help Best Buy again?

dbInSouthCity · PostJul 25, 2014#9962014-07-25T03:36+00:00

Let's back up a second, did you vote to raise the sales tax to fund metro?

As for as best buy goes
Best Buy witnessed a 6.5% growth in its revenue in fiscal 2014, while its net earnings (excluding discontinued operations) increased to $687 million compared to a net loss of $469 million in fiscal 2013. Best Buy’s stock price increased by approximately 200% in calendar year 2013.

Ebsy · PostJul 25, 2014#9972014-07-25T04:15+00:00

This is after they totally exited the entire European market in 2013. I imagine that was a costly venture.

jstriebel · PostJul 25, 2014#9982014-07-25T05:26+00:00

Here's why raising the sales tax for MetroLink specifically isn't the same as this:

1. There aren't other better and more obvious ways to raise funding for a transit system that needs to be built out into a more useable network.

2. If there are, they aren't even remotely being given consideration. Like as in even being tossed around.

3. That tax did not come tied to a bunch of projects that will negatively impact the region.

vollum · PostJul 25, 2014#9992014-07-25T13:26+00:00

Yup...If more money is needed for road expansion and modernization, the 17 cents motor fuel tax in Missouri should be raised. Most of the money that would be raised by passing Amendment 7 would go to roads according to "project lists". And, I suspect that an even higher proportion will go to roads than the "project lists" identify.

roger wyoming II · PostJul 25, 2014#10002014-07-25T14:20+00:00

dbInSouthCity wrote:Let's back up a second, did you vote to raise the sales tax to fund metro?

If Amendment 7 substantially advanced our transit system I seriously would have considered it. But it doesn't. And that's not so much MoDOT's fault than that of Saint Louis County and Metro. Actually, I believe our transit list may do more harm than good.... the "BRT" projects and Westport expansion study are rather problematic. (As for the good projects on the list, the Cortex stop will be funded regardless and the contribution for Saint Louis Streetcar, while helpful, isn't much of a catalyst to secure the overall project.)

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