SkyHouse - Washington Avenue

loftlaw · PostMay 21, 2008#5112008-05-21T00:10+00:00

ChrisInDownTown wrote:What's going to happen to the Monkey Building? I sure as hell hope they still have the facade that they removed to put up the signage.

I presume you are talking about the monkeys? The facade is still on the building, just in a different place. They took it down from underneath the second floor windows for signage, but they replaced it in between the second and third floor windows.

chrisindowntown · PostMay 21, 2008#5122008-05-21T13:35+00:00

Good! I had just assumed that it was located in between 1 and 2, as well as 2 and 3.

loftlaw · PostMay 21, 2008#5132008-05-21T18:19+00:00

I thought that too at first, but I looked at an older pic on builtstlouis.net and it appears it was only on the one level. I would post the pic, but I don't have time right now.

moving back · PostJul 02, 2008#5142008-07-02T23:30+00:00

I kinda liked the other building that was standing there before they took it down. I find it amazing that they can leave a place look like that in a neighborhood. I know that they had good intentions but obviously they don't give a sh*t what it looks like after they realized they were not going to build...

Maybe they should have left the fence down and charged admission for paint ball or let the troops practice combat before shipping out.

blues16 · PostJul 03, 2008#5152008-07-03T02:17+00:00

The sales team is officially out of their offices on Washington. I saw a realtor sign in the window this morning.

matguy70 · PostJul 03, 2008#5162008-07-03T02:52+00:00

This i some serious prime real estate... so it won't be vacant long.

Just wait until the market comes back.

As for the old building - yuck! I muc rather hav it empty with a fence looking as if a new construction is coming soon. Erlich's is so muh better now.

framer · PostJul 03, 2008#5172008-07-03T04:32+00:00

^Well, you're right about Erlich's, anyway. They came out of it smelling like a rose.

goat314 · PostFeb 03, 2009#5182009-02-03T05:32+00:00

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/c ... enDocument

stlcardsblues1989 · PostFeb 03, 2009#5192009-02-03T06:34+00:00

Sad.

Street View still has the images of the old tan buildings. I assume they were red brick originally? Even if they were maybe not coveted, seems like a waste to tear down existing buildings for a fictional tower.

You can see the buildings partially demolished here:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... 4347825995

And Live Maps

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&F ... &encType=1

moorlander · PostApr 16, 2010#5202010-04-16T01:16+00:00

RIP

Alex Ihnen · PostApr 16, 2010#5212010-04-16T01:29+00:00

It really was a pretty bada$$ idea!

bchao524 · PostApr 16, 2010#5222010-04-16T03:54+00:00

How long do you think it will be before downtown sees a proposal like this again?

gone corporate · PostApr 16, 2010#5232010-04-16T17:00+00:00

bchao524 wrote:How long do you think it will be before downtown sees a proposal like this again?

To get a residential building like that again (not including any unlikely but still possible BPV tower), we're going to need to see (1) increased sustainable jobs in Downtown, preferably with a new major corporation, and (2) most importantly, a restabilization in the national real estate markets to support new (speculative) residential urban construction, which will only come after defaults have staved off and the glut of single family housing is not in excess supply.

Of course, having a luxury high-rise proposal next door to Larry Rice and the NLEC didn't do them any good. It's hard to have a swank valet for your building along St. Charles Street next to Larry's portable toilets.

Still miss those buildings that used to be there. Nothing original in themselves, but a helluva lot better than a stupid grass yard on a very prominent corner.

midcoaststl · PostApr 22, 2011#5242011-04-22T00:34+00:00

There is a sign up at 14th and washington with what looks like a 4 story modern development that says PRE LEASING! I love modern infill, but I wish it was skyhouse.

goat314 · PostApr 22, 2011#5252011-04-22T00:52+00:00

4 stories seems kinda short, but anything is better than a dirt lot. I'm honestly optimistic about the future of residential infill downtown.

moorlander · PostApr 22, 2011#5262011-04-22T01:25+00:00

did it look at all like the previous proposal by Waldrop?

http://nextstl.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... sh#p137730

PostApr 22, 2011#5272011-04-22T01:33+00:00

It's fugly but I kinda like it! Calling Kellwood....

Garment District Building @ 1400 Washington AVE in St. Louis, MO 63103
Architecture & Design: Trivers http://www.trivers.com
Program: 22,000 RSF per floor office over retail; building height is scaleble (office floors can be added) depending on anchor tenant's need(s). Ground floor retail blended-rate offers 2-story/mezzanine retail (mezzanine space is offered free-of-charge) for less cost on Washington AVE. The project endeavors to "cluster" soft goods/fashion retail and can contain a total of 12-18 independent stores on one hard corner in the Garment District, versus spreading new retailers across St. Louis's downtown. This is an urban "power center" for new retail in a burgeoning residential and business district (over 110,000 office workers/residents/visitors to downtown each day; over 800,000 visitors to nearby City Museum each year).
Trivers' design is reminescent of the historic Washington AVE Garment District and includes an undulating ribbon and perforated metal "fins" or banners mimicking the silhouettes of mannequins. 200 dedicated parking spaces nearby.
FOR LEASE
Contact: Bryan King, King Realty Advisors 314-566-0192

goat314 · PostApr 22, 2011#5282011-04-22T01:48+00:00

That's an ugly building! Unless it has some cool lighting at night.

RobbyD · PostApr 22, 2011#5292011-04-22T04:03+00:00

The fin designs inside the ribbons are kinda cool...And a lighting effect would be really cool...I really like the concept too...You have to believe that a concentration of unique shopping options with available parking could work...I know we already have established upscale shopping nodes, but there is a lot of momentum and buzz around Washington Ave and quite a few people who head down here already...Downtown is not unfamiliar to many in the metro area...The key IMO will be creating not only something desirable but something unique...Downtown offereing only the same stores that can be found in Chesterfield and Richmond Heights would be kinda silly...And a failure...It's been proven...

I still want an CBD urban Target!! Not only would residents and visitors shop there, but the same Downtown workers who pick up a bottle of wine and Hamburger Helper at the Culinaria would likely venture in to Target do some shopping before getting on the road as well...

And this needs a thread...

framer · PostApr 22, 2011#5302011-04-22T04:23+00:00

Good looking building, IMO. Let's hope for a couple more floors, though.

the count · PostApr 22, 2011#5312011-04-22T06:02+00:00

^Like this?

midcoaststl · PostApr 22, 2011#5322011-04-22T15:56+00:00

I like it, but I also wish is was taller. Hopefully, they can get it started and filled up! I loved the skyhouse, but we have plenty of lots downtown that could have towers built...

downtown2007 · PostApr 22, 2011#5332011-04-22T15:57+00:00

3 stories would be disappointing. I would like to see a mixed use development with residences, business, corporate headquarters, and hotel with no less than 12 stories. This is a high profile corner.

ttricamo · PostApr 22, 2011#5342011-04-22T16:36+00:00

^ word up. Could this be mandated by our zoning/building commission? I think there should be a minimum height requirement for corner buildings or high-profile streets/lots.

This isn't Olivette; 2 stories is so weak.

Alex Ihnen · PostApr 22, 2011#5352011-04-22T16:46+00:00

In general, I agree, but let's look at the 16 nearest buildings on Wash Ave. Their story counts are:

1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 7, 2, 8, 3, 3, 5, 10, 3, 3, 3, 7

An average of basically 4 stories. Taller is better if there's demand, but any 3-4 story infill downtown is going to have a big impact. I'd much rather see the vacant lots and surface parking disappear under a dozen shorter projects than than have a couple 20-story towers.

SkyHouse - Washington Avenue

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