Sorry if the blog post wasn't clear. I don't expect that people will actually self-regulate or that the P-D thinks so either. I'm calling for the P-D to actually moderate (with a relatively heavy hand) their online comments. My suggestion (Please keep it civil. Don't allow any comment you wouldn't print on the front page.) is to the P-D, saying that they shouldn't allow any comments on their website that they wouldn't also allow on the front page of their printed edition. It seems like a simple and commonsense threshold to me - much more so than them invoking my mother.
I think I've already suggested this a multitude of times. But here goes again.
Utilize federated login via OpenID by allowing clients to authenticate w/ Facebook, Google, etc. Real names and pictures can be posted easily. Anonymity is the enemy of civility.
Oh, and clearly the Post Dispatch doesn't have the resources to moderate the countless discussions. Enable the crowd to moderate ala digg.com!
It ain't rocket science, peeps. And if it is, just hire people from Boeing!
Utilize federated login via OpenID by allowing clients to authenticate w/ Facebook, Google, etc. Real names and pictures can be posted easily. Anonymity is the enemy of civility.
Oh, and clearly the Post Dispatch doesn't have the resources to moderate the countless discussions. Enable the crowd to moderate ala digg.com!
It ain't rocket science, peeps. And if it is, just hire people from Boeing!
Hey, whaddya know. CNN implemented much of what I've been preaching for a while. Real pictures and names from commenters. This has got to increase the civility of their discussions. Check out the comments section here: http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/28/autos/c ... /index.htm
Now if CNN can do it, stltoday.com can do it too. Amen y palabra a tu madre...
Now if CNN can do it, stltoday.com can do it too. Amen y palabra a tu madre...
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"Ghetto thugs"? 
It sounds like they just started airing "21 Jump Street" in the county
It sounds like they just started airing "21 Jump Street" in the county
Okay, lets do it, someone write up something smart, informative and non insulting. Post it on here, lets all copy and paste in the comments section. Someone HAS to do something, it's obvious the Post Dispatch is fine with letting this absolute insanity go on.
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I've set up a blog to highlight the worst comments on STL Today. It's called "The Best of STL Today Comments"
Link: http://bestofstltodaycomments.blogspot.com/
I'm more than happy to give anyone here authorship so we can all add comments as we see them.....
Link: http://bestofstltodaycomments.blogspot.com/
I'm more than happy to give anyone here authorship so we can all add comments as we see them.....
This blog was created to highlight the absurdly ignorant, intolerant, sometimes hateful and ultimately unproductive comments found on the Post-Dispatch website www.stltoday.com.
The Post-Dispatch should not allow comments on their STL Today website that they would not be comfortable printing above the fold on the front page of their Sunday edition. Their continued facilitation of ignorance and hate is an abdication of journalistic responsibility.
That is the first time I have ever read an entire comments section. All of the negative comments are so over-the-top that I couldn't imagine anyone taking them seriously. Even my most suburban-minded friends (many from St. Charles County) would view these comments as absurd. My ex-girlfriend's father used to make negative comments much like the ones on STLtoday just to get a rise out of me, and I get the feeling that these people are doing just that. Of course that doesn't make it right and anyone reading the comments might get the wrong impression from them, which is why it is important that we keep going with the positive responses. I think they outweighed the negatives quite well this time around.
^Grover, BRILLIANT!
^Grover, BRILLIANT!
Completely brain-dead, racist comments aren't the exclusive property of stltoday posters. I followed a link from fark to the Fox affiliate in DC about a robbery gone wrong. Sure enough, the very first comment was something like "black crime yet again." That's very loose paraphrasing, but the comments were startlingly similar to what you'd find on stltoday.
^ Wherever incivility exists, it should be stamped out by advancing accountability. Social control is a biatch.
Let's work to make this blog really damn good. We should shoot to get national exposure and the front page of digg.com. I am not joking...
Let's work to make this blog really damn good. We should shoot to get national exposure and the front page of digg.com. I am not joking...
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^ Yes (blog effort is evolving quickly - we should have something fun going here soon. Nix the old blogger blog....)
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I'm pretty sure a lot of the posters don't even bother to read the articles on which they're commenting.
The road to civil discourse in the media continues today with renewed vigor. @STLtoday - Meet @STLtomorrow. Please join our STLtomorrow Facebook Fan Page that we'll use to advance the attack on ignorance. Also follow our Tweets @ http://twitter.com/STLtomorrow.
We need your help in posting some of the more "interesting" comments to the STLtomorrow Fan Page. Together, let us form the biggest pile of concentrated sh*t the world has ever seen! Smear it far, smear it wide. So much stinky poo, the ignoramuses can not hide...
But this isn't just a joke. Not only will we shed light on the problem, we'll provide a blueprint to solve it.
Are you in? One for all and all for one!
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We need your help in posting some of the more "interesting" comments to the STLtomorrow Fan Page. Together, let us form the biggest pile of concentrated sh*t the world has ever seen! Smear it far, smear it wide. So much stinky poo, the ignoramuses can not hide...
But this isn't just a joke. Not only will we shed light on the problem, we'll provide a blueprint to solve it.
Are you in? One for all and all for one!
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Thankfully, it's not just us. A guy on my Facebook friends list posted this the other day regarding his hometown newspaper in Jackson, Tennessee...
"Discovered that the Jackson Sun has stopped allowing comments on their site. I applaud them. One less haven for idiots."
"Discovered that the Jackson Sun has stopped allowing comments on their site. I applaud them. One less haven for idiots."
Grover wrote:I've set up a blog to highlight the worst comments on STL Today. It's called "The Best of STL Today Comments"
Link: http://bestofstltodaycomments.blogspot.com/
I'm more than happy to give anyone here authorship so we can all add comments as we see them.....
This blog was created to highlight the absurdly ignorant, intolerant, sometimes hateful and ultimately unproductive comments found on the Post-Dispatch website www.stltoday.com.
The Post-Dispatch should not allow comments on their STL Today website that they would not be comfortable printing above the fold on the front page of their Sunday edition. Their continued facilitation of ignorance and hate is an abdication of journalistic responsibility.
Sign me up dude. Seriously. Send me a message
Grover and I are working together -- with all of you, if you'd like to help. Just join the Facebook fan page and add the inane comments from stltoday.com to the wall. We decided against the blog concept because we felt that the more we could involve the community, the more successful it would be.
http://stltomorrow.org
http://stltomorrow.org
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innov8ion wrote:Grover and I are working together -- with all of you, if you'd like to help. Just join the Facebook fan page and add the inane comments from stltoday.com to the wall. We decided against the blog concept because we felt that the more we could involve the community, the more successful it would be.
http://stltomorrow.org
Fair enough, but I think it would be cooler/funnier to be able to type in "stltodaycomments.com" or something.
^ Trademark infringement is probably more amusing from the outside looking in.
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innov8ion wrote:^ Trademark infringement is probably more amusing from the outside looking in.
hehe...Fair Use doesn't cover that, huh?
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At least this one has the gonads to put her thoughts in a letter to the editor with her name and location. Still just as stupid, but at least not cowardly
"Ironic isn’t? There’s now a smoking ban in place in St. Louis City, but it seems there’s a crack and heroin dealer on every corner! Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees!
Kim A. Knutsen
Webster Groves"
"Ironic isn’t? There’s now a smoking ban in place in St. Louis City, but it seems there’s a crack and heroin dealer on every corner! Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees!
Kim A. Knutsen
Webster Groves"
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southsidepride wrote:At least this one has the gonads to put her thoughts in a letter to the editor with her name and location. Still just as stupid, but at least not cowardly:
"Ironic isn’t? There’s now a smoking ban in place in St. Louis City, but it seems there’s a crack and heroin dealer on every corner! Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees!
Kim A. Knutsen
Webster Groves"
Isn't there a section online of letters to the editor where people can post responses? Defenders of the city...mount up!
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Grover wrote:I've set up a blog to highlight the worst comments on STL Today. It's called "The Best of STL Today Comments"
Link: http://bestofstltodaycomments.blogspot.com/
I'm more than happy to give anyone here authorship so we can all add comments as we see them.....
This blog was created to highlight the absurdly ignorant, intolerant, sometimes hateful and ultimately unproductive comments found on the Post-Dispatch website www.stltoday.com.
The Post-Dispatch should not allow comments on their STL Today website that they would not be comfortable printing above the fold on the front page of their Sunday edition. Their continued facilitation of ignorance and hate is an abdication of journalistic responsibility.
This link doesn't work - are you using the Facebook group instead?