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PostMar 29, 2006#1

(Not entirely urban, but an important entertainment venue in STL. I believe it's the only Six Flags built from scratch, and also one of the few originals)



SIX FLAGS ST. LOUIS ANNOUNCES LARGEST ADDITION IN PARK'S HISTORY St. Louis ? As Six Flags Theme Parks prepares to celebrate 45 years of family fun and entertainment, Six Flags St. Louis is set to add the largest number of rides, attractions and family entertainment at one time in the Eureka based theme park?s history! These exciting additions include a new and unique family section, Bugs BunnyTM National Park; the extreme free-fall ride, SUPERMANTM Tower of Power and an entertainment package including JUSTICE LEAGUETM characters, fireworks and a daily parade! ?We are very excited to get this rare opportunity to introduce a new attraction package that offers so many different elements for so many members of our audience,? states David Roemer, General Manager of Six Flags St. Louis. ?This year we are truly adding something for everyone from little kids and teens to young adults and parents that will make their visit to Six Flags St. Louis a priceless experience.? The new additions combine to offer 10 new rides and attractions for thrill seekers of all ages and offer the perfect compliment to the park?s existing line up of family attractions and thrill rides.



Bugs BunnyTM National Park

The first new section to be added to the park in nearly 20 years, Bugs Bunny National Park gives families a place that they can stay together and play together during their visit to Six Flags! Unlike most children?s areas, this specially designed area offers rides and attractions that parents can enjoy and participate in along with their children. Family rides include hot air balloon replica?s which take riders up, up and away; a flying rocket ship; a miniature drop ride; spinning tea cups; a rockin?, spinning tugboat and miniature train. Parents and older siblings can also participate in a 3-story tree house play structure as well as interactive water play fountain. If parents just want to watch, the pint-sized airplanes and our swinging ship are just for the little ones.



Bugs Bunny National Park also offers amenities including the Character Caf? serving family favorites, Ranger Station featuring souvenirs geared for younger guests and restrooms so fun seekers don?t have to leave the area.



SUPERMANTM Tower of Power

SUPERMAN Tower of Power, is an extreme free fall ride that will take thrill seekers? breath away! SUPERMANTower of Power will test even nerves of steel as riders are slowly carried up to the top of the 230-ft tower while seated four across in ski-lift style chairs that face outward leaving their feet dangling in the open air. With a bird?s eye view of the park from this towering mass of steel, guests are suspended for several seconds of gut wrenching, muscle tensing anticipation before the impending drop, a 23-story plunge at speeds in excess of 60-mph! This breath-taking, white-knuckle free fall ends with a Super Heroes landing and riders lining up for another encounter with SUPERMAN Tower of Power!







More Family Entertainment

In 2006, Six Flags St. Louis not only offers more ride thrills than ever, but guests will experience a day of fantasy and awe unlike any other! Anyone who ever dreamed of leaping tall buildings in a single bound, having super human powers or saving the world will get the chance to meet some of their favorite JUSTICE LEAGUE characters in person this summer at the theme park. JUSTICE LEAGUE Super Heroes will take time out from defending good against evil to pose for photos and sign autographs for their loyal supporters. The Super Heroes will also take part in a daily parade featuring the Looney Tunes characters and other park celebrities amid music and fanfare. And a memorable day must have a perfect end with a nightly fireworks show filled with lights, music and magic! It?s a summer of new experiences like never before at Six Flags St. Louis!



Six Flags, Inc. is the world's largest regional theme park company. Through its subsidiaries, it owns and operates a total of 30 parks in North America. Six Flags parks serve 34 of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the United States. Six Flags, Inc. is a publicly held corporation with corporate offices in New York City and Oklahoma City. The Company's stock trades on the NYSE under the symbol: PKS.



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LOONEY TUNES and all related characters and elements are trademarks of and ? Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.

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PostMar 29, 2006#2

Dude this is so cool. The free-fall rides are so fun and the new add-ons will make it like the best 6 Flags in the Middle of the country.
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PostMar 31, 2006#3

Yes, free fall rides, especially this type are *very* thrilling! I've been on this very model when it operated at the now defunct Six Flags Astroworld in Houston as "Dungeon Drop." Those who haven't experienced this attraction are in for a big rush :twisted:



I'm so glad that TPTB have decided to finally add one here.
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PostMar 31, 2006#4

Personally I do not like Six Flags, and I do not see how it benefits St. Louis. This is located in Eureka, an exurb. People that visit Six Flags, outside of MO, probably do not drive to STL. If you like Six Flags, then this is good, but how does its expansion benefit the city?
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PostMar 31, 2006#5

^This benefits St. Louis. Just as Xing said, this is an entertainment venue. I personally don't go to amusement parks, but for those that do, this is one more reason to visit St. Louis. No doubt, people come from far outstate Missouri & Illinois to visit Six Flags and spend a bunch of money. And some make it part of a vacation that includes the Zoo, shopping at the Galleria, visiting the Arch, going to Ted Drewes, Cardinals game, and you name it. It is part of that wonderful product, St. Louis/Vacationland. I will bet a few midwesterners have put off an Orlando trip because they could bring the kids to Six Flags & all of the other attractions in St. Louis. Plus the kids from St. Louis will enjoy the enhanced park, too.
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PostApr 01, 2006#6

I agree this benefits St. Louis. Anything that raises people's consciousness of the metro area as a great place to visit is good PR and counteracts some of the negative perceptions.
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PostJul 17, 2007#7

I went to Six Flags over the weekend and have a few thoughts. With malls going outdoors again instead of indoors, some smart developer needs to team with Six Flags and turn the St. Louis park into the first combined outdoor shopping mall and amusment park. The concept could solve two big problems.



1. Lines. American's hate to wait in line. And there is no longer any reason for it. With today's radio controlled watches and timing devices, there is no reason to stand in a long line. They should update the technology to assign a ride time for all riders, not just those that pay extra. This would pay off in several ways.

a) Attract more customers by making the park more enjoyable and eliminate long periods of standing in line in the heat.

b) Free up valuable land and building space devoted to the zig-zag line buildings to hold all the people winding their way slowly to the ride.

c) Free people to spend their time shopping and spending money in the park stores, rather than waste it trapped in a line spending nothing, which leads to the 2nd opportunity.



2. Shopping. They need to build a big outdoor mall either immediately adjacent to the park, or better yet merged in with the park utilizing the space freed up from the line holding buildings. Some people really enjoy shopping -- some really enjoy amusement rides. This would have something for everyone. National chain outdoor stores and restaurants in the park would:

a) Give people a place to spend money while they are waiting to ride a popular ride.

b) Attract a large Midwestern clientele who are attracted to shopping malls like Mall of America, and Amusement Parks.

c) Bring West County people to the park/mall weekly, like any mall, instead of 3/4 times per year.

d) Take advantage of the booming population of SW St. Louis County as it grows in that direction. Someone is going to build a big mall in that area soon, I suspect. Why not merge it with the park to make a mega-attraction for the whole area. They sit on prime land.

e) Allow the park to open for a Christmas Season. Branson parks, and Gatlinburg, TN have tremendous Christmas selling seasons. I can imagine Six Flags looking pretty cute and attacting big spending crowds around Christmas time. The park could gradually add some indoor rides to satisfy a few thrill seekers until Spring.



I believe they could use computer technology to provide any combination of rides and free shopping you may choose. From -- free entry/no rides/ shopping-only, all the way to one price-ride everything. They could easily monitor exotic intermediate plans that allow you to, say, buy season ticket plans that allow you to ride everything for 2 hours per week. Or even full pay-as-you-go for each ride. Whatever you want. They don't need the old one size fits all anymore.



The perfect place to build the mall would be the parking lot. Disneyland built California Adventure where the Disneyland parking lot used to be. Then they built giant veritcal parking garages for the cars. Six Flags could do something similar.



Mall of America did what I'm talking about, but with the Mall dominating the amusement park, rather than a 50-50 split. It is indoors, which is not as attractive anymore. St. Louis Mills bills itself as an entertainment mall, but it wouldn't compare to what it could be merged with Six Flags.



St. Louis has had milder and milder winters. Rides could easily keep running many days until December. This would mean a big refresh of the park, and turn it into a Midwest-wide attraction again. The landscape is beautiful out there. And the current crop of roller coasters is pretty amazing. It just needs to update to a 21st century technology and entertainment concept.
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PostJul 17, 2007#8

Gary, I like your thinking. I wished there were more destination/attractions immediately surrounding the park. Shopping would be good. A hotel or two -- a Drury, Fairfield right there in the parking lot.




Doug wrote:Personally I do not like Six Flags, and I do not see how it benefits St. Louis. This is located in Eureka, an exurb. People that visit Six Flags, outside of MO, probably do not drive to STL. If you like Six Flags, then this is good, but how does its expansion benefit the city?


My in-laws drive in from Memphis. And while they're here they do other stuff.
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PostJul 18, 2007#9

A 13-yr old girl recently had her feet severed on a ride similar to the Superman ride at another Six Flags.
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PostJul 19, 2007#10

TB1000 wrote:A 13-yr old girl recently had her feet severed on a ride similar to the Superman ride at another Six Flags.


I heard about that incident. I wonder how that affects Six Flags financially and their ability to expand like they plan to do in StL?
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PostJul 19, 2007#11

TB1000 wrote:A 13-yr old girl recently had her feet severed on a ride similar to the Superman ride at another Six Flags.




that was in kentucky. A cable broke and took her legs with it.
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PostJul 19, 2007#12

Apparently someone was intelligent enough to grab the severed feet/legs and put them on ice so they could be reattached... no idea whether or not that means she'll ever be able to walk on them again or if she'll just be able to sit in her wheelchair, free of other children's ignorant ridicule.



I'm sure it will have some negative impact on Six Flags, but I'm also sure they have plans set aside for when things like this unfortunately occur.
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PostJul 19, 2007#13

reminds me of the time Fabio got hit in the face by a bird at Busch Gardens. :lol:
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Post4:33 PM - 4 days ago#14

I couldn't find a better Six Flags specific thread. The now-Mid America Adventure park had its last day of the season yesterday with a huge offseason ahead of it, all the Warner Brothers owned and Six Flags owned IPs will be removed and rebranded for next season.

They had an absolutely horrible year, attendance was down ~45-50% and they shed money. While most theme parks had a tough year, ours did especially poorly, poor to an unsustainable level. It's not at risk of closing in the near or even mid term, likely a 4-5 year window for a rebound in attendenace before I would be seriously worried about it being closed, but this was a not an ideal start under the new ownership.

It would be a bad thing for it to close, we get way more out-of-town people who travel here in part because of this park than anyone realizes and it's a great regional attraction. So hopefully their re-brand is taken seriously and not half-assed.

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Post4:40 PM - 4 days ago#15

They are doing a piss poor job of advertising.  People know six flags.  If it shows up as closed/sold in a Google search people shrug.  They need a “we are still here (and better than ever)” program
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Post5:09 PM - 4 days ago#16

I was told last week that Great Wolf Lodge is working on a STL location. Plans will be formalized in 2027 with goals to be operational by 2029/2030. Will be a part of a $3B entertainment campus and offer Six Flags fresh competition. 
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Post11:22 PM - 4 days ago#17

I think it's unfortunate that advertising is bad and attendance has dropped. Six Flags had been neglecting this park for YEARS and this past season it looked like Enchanted Parks genuinely cared about the park's appearance and fixing it up. I hate how stubborn and shortsighted everyone is in St. Louis area, give it a chance and support it and I think we will see future investment.
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Post11:58 PM - 4 days ago#18

jacob_rb_15 wrote: ↑
11:22 PM - 4 days ago
I think it's unfortunate that advertising is bad and attendance has dropped. Six Flags had been neglecting this park for YEARS and this past season it looked like Enchanted Parks genuinely cared about the park's appearance and fixing it up. I hate how stubborn and shortsighted everyone is in St. Louis area, give it a chance and support it and I think we will see future investment.
I know attendance was down because they spent the whole year with the full time no exclusions chaperone rules. https://midamericaadventure.enchantedparks.com/park-policies/

You're also making a chicken and egg argument with the "YOU BETTER ATTEND OR ELSE!". The last three times we went I only rode Batman because everything else stinks. I tried The Screaming Eagle again and it was highly unpleasant. I tried The Boss and hurt so much I had to call off work the next day. Even American Thunder is now a rattle trap.

We're cancelling our Enchanted Pass and will instead stay with Six Flags so we can go to Gurnee, Cedar Point and Kings Island.

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StlAlex wrote: ↑
4:33 PM - 4 days ago
I couldn't find a better Six Flags specific thread. The now-Mid America Adventure park had its last day of the season yesterday with a huge offseason ahead of it, all the Warner Brothers owned and Six Flags owned IPs will be removed and rebranded for next season.

They had an absolutely horrible year, attendance was down ~45-50% and they shed money. While most theme parks had a tough year, ours did especially poorly, poor to an unsustainable level. It's not at risk of closing in the near or even mid term, likely a 4-5 year window for a rebound in attendenace before I would be seriously worried about it being closed, but this was a not an ideal start under the new ownership.

It would be a bad thing for it to close, we get way more out-of-town people who travel here in part because of this park than anyone realizes and it's a great regional attraction. So hopefully their re-brand is taken seriously and not half-assed.

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The problem is people would rather spend their money at parks that give them more, have better theming and have better rides.  St. Louisans would rather travel a couple hours to Holiday World or Silver Dollar City and have a much better time over the "meh" and neglected Enchanted park here.

And it's not just a St. Louis thing. Worlds of Fun is also way down attendance-wise. Both times we went thing summer it was walk-right-on or wait 15 minutes because they were doing single train operations. (Plus to be honest the crews were moving pretty slow.) Both the KC and St. Louis Enchanted parks have a real pall of doom over them. 
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Post12:09 AM - 4 days ago#20

dweebe wrote:
jacob_rb_15 wrote: ↑
11:22 PM - 4 days ago
I think it's unfortunate that advertising is bad and attendance has dropped. Six Flags had been neglecting this park for YEARS and this past season it looked like Enchanted Parks genuinely cared about the park's appearance and fixing it up. I hate how stubborn and shortsighted everyone is in St. Louis area, give it a chance and support it and I think we will see future investment.
I know attendance was down because they spent the whole year with the full time no exclusions chaperone rules. https://midamericaadventure.enchantedparks.com/park-policies/

You're also making a chicken and egg argument with the "YOU BETTER ATTEND OR ELSE!". The last three times we went I only rode Batman because everything else stinks. I tried The Screaming Eagle again and it was highly unpleasant. I tried The Boss and hurt so much I had to call off work the next day. Even American Thunder is now a rattle trap.

We're cancelling our Enchanted Pass and will instead stay with Six Flags so we can go to Gurnee, Cedar Point and Kings Island.
This pretty much meets every expectation I have ever had for Dweebe. He/She is a true St. Louisan and out-St. Louises all of us.

Edit: You can't blame Enchanted for things Six Flags has been doing for years. Theming? It's well known that SF does a horrible job at it, the wooden roller coasters being rough? It's well known Six Flags has neglected their upkeep for years which is what resulted in the state they are in. Kinda funny how you also failed to mention Mr. Freeze, Catwoman, or Joker, which are our park's 3 biggest attractions. People are not coming for Batman/Boss/Eagle as you can find rides like that everywhere.

Otherwise, great argument. "I had an unpleasant time at Six Flags St. Louis, so I'm gonna give my money to Six Flags instead." Yet we wonder why we can't keep nice things in St. Louis.

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Post1:46 AM - 4 days ago#21

dweebe wrote: ↑
11:58 PM - 4 days ago
jacob_rb_15 wrote: ↑
11:22 PM - 4 days ago
I think it's unfortunate that advertising is bad and attendance has dropped. Six Flags had been neglecting this park for YEARS and this past season it looked like Enchanted Parks genuinely cared about the park's appearance and fixing it up. I hate how stubborn and shortsighted everyone is in St. Louis area, give it a chance and support it and I think we will see future investment.
I know attendance was down because they spent the whole year with the full time no exclusions chaperone rules. https://midamericaadventure.enchantedparks.com/park-policies/

You're also making a chicken and egg argument with the "YOU BETTER ATTEND OR ELSE!". The last three times we went I only rode Batman because everything else stinks. I tried The Screaming Eagle again and it was highly unpleasant. I tried The Boss and hurt so much I had to call off work the next day. Even American Thunder is now a rattle trap.

We're cancelling our Enchanted Pass and will instead stay with Six Flags so we can go to Gurnee, Cedar Point and Kings Island.
Enchanted Parks hasn't even owned the park for an entire off season. How can you judge the company when they haven't even had an opportunity to repair rides that faced years and years of neglect from Six Flags. And then turn around and say you're going to go back to supporting Six Flags. Make it make sense.

Cosmetically, Enchanted Parks has done a great job. We will see how they handle ride maintenance and future park maintenance, but it won't be tough to beat Six Flags.
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Post6:34 AM - 4 days ago#22

StlAlex wrote: ↑
12:09 AM - 4 days ago
 Kinda funny how you also failed to mention Mr. Freeze, Catwoman, or Joker, which are our park's 3 biggest attractions. People are not coming for Batman/Boss/Eagle as you can find rides like that everywhere.
Lmao this is not true at all - Mr. Freeze is one of the bigger rides, but Mr. Freeze, Catwoman Whip, and Joker (which I'm pretty sure was already renamed) all either have pretty mediocre capacity or are more or less fair rides. No one is coming for them save for Mr. Freeze. People absolutely come for Boss and Eagle as the Boss is still one of the premier custom woodies on the planet despite Six Flags neutering it years ago when they removed the double helix and upped the braking on C Block. All it needs are new trains that don't literally tear the structure apart and more retracking by GCI (which was one of the last things SF did for it and it made the double-down after the first drop smooth as ice). Eagle is an ACE Landmark and just needs more TLC. 

Of all the parks Enchanted got from SF, the only one that really made any money was SFSTL; I'm sure SF was delighted to offload the other underperforming parks to someone else. I predict EPR closes or sells most of the parks they acquired within the next 5-10 years; wouldn't even be surprised if SF reacquires SFSTL for pennies on the dollar. 
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Post2:23 PM - 4 days ago#23

Trololzilla wrote:
StlAlex wrote: ↑
12:09 AM - 4 days ago
 Kinda funny how you also failed to mention Mr. Freeze, Catwoman, or Joker, which are our park's 3 biggest attractions. People are not coming for Batman/Boss/Eagle as you can find rides like that everywhere.
Lmao this is not true at all - Mr. Freeze is one of the bigger rides, but Mr. Freeze, Catwoman Whip, and Joker (which I'm pretty sure was already renamed) all either have pretty mediocre capacity or are more or less fair rides. No one is coming for them save for Mr. Freeze. People absolutely come for Boss and Eagle as the Boss is still one of the premier custom woodies on the planet despite Six Flags neutering it years ago when they removed the double helix and upped the braking on C Block. All it needs are new trains that don't literally tear the structure apart and more retracking by GCI (which was one of the last things SF did for it and it made the double-down after the first drop smooth as ice). Eagle is an ACE Landmark and just needs more TLC. 

Of all the parks Enchanted got from SF, the only one that really made any money was SFSTL; I'm sure SF was delighted to offload the other underperforming parks to someone else. I predict EPR closes or sells most of the parks they acquired within the next 5-10 years; wouldn't even be surprised if SF reacquires SFSTL for pennies on the dollar. 
It is very much true. It's what the data suggests that visitors prioritize. Eagle would get torn down if it wasn't a "landmark", no one- and I mean no one- is coming to ride Eagle in 2026 lol. They go ride it when Catwoman's line is too long.

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Post3:02 PM - 4 days ago#24

I understand that new roller coasters are expensive but there is a pretty strong correlation to their affect of getting people to buy tickets. Just saying.

Also I understand that roving youths has been a problem, but the chaperone policy is unsustainable. Having a season pass as a kid was a gamechanger and my parents would just drop me off for the day. Instead of visiting once per year with my family I was going a couple dozen times a year and spending money.

Kids should be allowed to be unsupervised. Maybe this is old man yelling at a cloud energy but the hyper supervision required of kids at all times is causing a lot of problems in society. 
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Post4:14 PM - 3 days ago#25

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:I understand that new roller coasters are expensive but there is a pretty strong correlation to their affect of getting people to buy tickets. Just saying.

Also I understand that roving youths has been a problem, but the chaperone policy is unsustainable. Having a season pass as a kid was a gamechanger and my parents would just drop me off for the day. Instead of visiting once per year with my family I was going a couple dozen times a year and spending money.

Kids should be allowed to be unsupervised. Maybe this is old man yelling at a cloud energy but the hyper supervision required of kids at all times is causing a lot of problems in society. 
The chaperone policy reduced park issues to virtually nothing this year. I don't know for sure, but I assume it will remain after 4 or 5 PM next year but will not be in effect during the day.

The point isn't really about debating rides, the point is Dweebe sounds stupid when they say theyre not re-upping their season pass because all they ride was a generic Batman replica, the 50 year old generic wooden roller coaster, and the Boss, and imply blame on the new ownership while they go and give money to the company that left Boss and Eagle in bad states. It's that type of thinking that will result in our park closing and STL losing an asset, literally text book what happens all the time.

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