So you don't have to listen, he basically explains that every team is attempting to lodge/host in a city where they know they have a possible game in their projected schedule, so they don't have to travel prior to their game if they don't have to... they see it as an advantage to reduce travel stress on their players. Diego said that because of this, they don't expect to have any host teams in St. Louis even though they are still trying and teams really liked their facilities...
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So you don't have to listen, he basically explains that every team is attempting to lodge/host in a city where they know they have a possible game in their projected schedule, so they don't have to travel prior to their game if they don't have to... they see it as an advantage to reduce travel stress on their players. Diego said that because of this, they don't expect to have any host teams in St. Louis even though they are still trying and teams really liked their facilities...
US in an unpopular war with an extremist regime, mideast in turmoil. The opinion of EU allies of the US at a low. Trump cutting trade with Spain. US attacks on Venezuela and embargo on Cuba. To make it worse, FEMA won't release SECURITY money to cities 100 days before event.
The world has always been on fire but this is near the worst political and security environment I can recall in my life (1990s). Not a great time domestically or internationally to host World Cup.
The world has always been on fire but this is near the worst political and security environment I can recall in my life (1990s). Not a great time domestically or internationally to host World Cup.
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Lol the fool doesn't realize that he can't individually negotiate trade with an EU country.
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It's turning away from being a question of whether STL will be a home base for a visiting team (we won't) into a question of whether or not the World Cup will cancel playing in the US altogether this year. Never thought I'd see this. Are there any viable substitute countries to host these games? They sure aren't heading back to Qatar anytime soon. I mean, I sincerely doubt it'd happen, especially with less than 100 days to go, but just wow y'all...addxb2 wrote: ↑11:37 PM - Mar 03US in an unpopular war with an extremist regime, mideast in turmoil. The opinion of EU allies of the US at a low. Trump cutting trade with Spain. US attacks on Venezuela and embargo on Cuba. To make it worse, FEMA won't release SECURITY money to cities 100 days before event.
The world has always been on fire but this is near the worst political and security environment I can recall in my life (1990s). Not a great time domestically or internationally to host World Cup.
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Not hard at all to have UK step in - they've got enough stadia (17) of 40k+ & presumably enough infrastructure to handle with little struggle. Might be a challenge to guarantee enough lodging for visiting fans. Not fair to Canada & Mexico to take their games away because their neighbor is a butthole, though.gone corporate wrote: ↑6:42 PM - Mar 04It's turning away from being a question of whether STL will be a home base for a visiting team (we won't) into a question of whether or not the World Cup will cancel playing in the US altogether this year. Never thought I'd see this. Are there any viable substitute countries to host these games? They sure aren't heading back to Qatar anytime soon. I mean, I sincerely doubt it'd happen, especially with less than 100 days to go, but just wow y'all...addxb2 wrote: ↑11:37 PM - Mar 03US in an unpopular war with an extremist regime, mideast in turmoil. The opinion of EU allies of the US at a low. Trump cutting trade with Spain. US attacks on Venezuela and embargo on Cuba. To make it worse, FEMA won't release SECURITY money to cities 100 days before event.
The world has always been on fire but this is near the worst political and security environment I can recall in my life (1990s). Not a great time domestically or internationally to host World Cup.
FIFA is collaborationist and evil. There's a 0% chance they Will cancel.
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^Unfortunately, this is correct. $$$$ is to be made in the US, so in the US it will stay.
Zero chance they cancel US games, well maybe foxboro if they don’t let them come. They gave Trump the medal of peace or whatever. They aren’t going to about face all of the sudden. As long as they get their money they will be happy.gone corporate wrote: ↑6:42 PM - Mar 04It's turning away from being a question of whether STL will be a home base for a visiting team (we won't) into a question of whether or not the World Cup will cancel playing in the US altogether this year. Never thought I'd see this. Are there any viable substitute countries to host these games? They sure aren't heading back to Qatar anytime soon. I mean, I sincerely doubt it'd happen, especially with less than 100 days to go, but just wow y'all...addxb2 wrote: ↑11:37 PM - Mar 03US in an unpopular war with an extremist regime, mideast in turmoil. The opinion of EU allies of the US at a low. Trump cutting trade with Spain. US attacks on Venezuela and embargo on Cuba. To make it worse, FEMA won't release SECURITY money to cities 100 days before event.
The world has always been on fire but this is near the worst political and security environment I can recall in my life (1990s). Not a great time domestically or internationally to host World Cup.
And it isn’t like they are taking games Canada or Mexico…. Well probably not Mexico… so that makes it hard to move it also.
St. Louis City and Purina announce “Summer of Soccer”
https://www.summerofsoccerstl.com
Our “40 Days of Soccer” will be a nonstop celebration of the beautiful game across the entire St. Louis region! Hosted at iconic locations like the Gateway Arch, Forest Park, and The Hill, these events and activities will be dedicated to making soccer more accessible for fans of all ages and backgrounds. Get ready for 40 consecutive days of fun – including watch parties, street soccer, community mini-pitch openings, youth tournaments, and more. Each event will be an inclusive and exciting opportunity to play, connect and celebrate the world’s game together!
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https://www.summerofsoccerstl.com
Our “40 Days of Soccer” will be a nonstop celebration of the beautiful game across the entire St. Louis region! Hosted at iconic locations like the Gateway Arch, Forest Park, and The Hill, these events and activities will be dedicated to making soccer more accessible for fans of all ages and backgrounds. Get ready for 40 consecutive days of fun – including watch parties, street soccer, community mini-pitch openings, youth tournaments, and more. Each event will be an inclusive and exciting opportunity to play, connect and celebrate the world’s game together!
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I know the logistics aren't in STLs favor but I realllllly hope the region is throwing everything it has at the Bosnia and Herzegovina team. That would be so freaking cool.
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I saw this & couldn’t agree more definitely should have there home base here…..
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I highly doubt it for several reasons, one is ironically that there is too many Bosnians here. It would turn the practice sessions into a circus and distraction. Second, they’ll most likely look for a climate similar Toronto and Seattle
But I will say this, the Bosnian football federation is very corrupt and a little money under the table can make anything reality
But I will say this, the Bosnian football federation is very corrupt and a little money under the table can make anything reality
https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/kansas- ... occer_pos1
From the article-
When FIFA officials scouted Kansas City as a potential host, city
officials asked volunteers to mill through the airport and pretend to be tourists. They hoped to
make the city look like a desirable travel destination, Dietrich said.
Drivers who picked up the officials from the airport followed a preplanned route, avoiding
construction and graffiti. And when the scouts left their hotel the next morning, two youth soccer
teams were set up playing on the field across the street.
Market and events people: Is this something that is commonly done?
Do you tell people about it or just let them think that all those people are really tourists?
Why would you even admit this to the WSJ?
The whole "soccer capitol of the USA" was an marketing flex that popped up before the MLS All Star game years ago - Its odd because they seem really committed to the narrative when fandom for Sporting has waned considerably, the team is giving away tickets and still getting low crowds. The Current is enjoying a nice bounce, but the commitment feels trendy and more based on being excited about women's sports and a downtown stadium then love of the beautiful game.
Besler is the only real talent to come out of the city, we will see if the "investment" pays off
There was also the odd episode a few years ago where some KC development group announced that they were building US Soccer official training ground without actually consulting them - The training facility went to Atlanta
The whole thing does not feel the slightest bit organic - Went to Wiz games in the late 90's early 2000's - there was not much love for the game in KC at that time.
Either way I will be there on the 25 for Tunisia V Netherlands - My first trip back to Arrowhead since the early 2000's Wiz games - Looking forward to it
From the article-
When FIFA officials scouted Kansas City as a potential host, city
officials asked volunteers to mill through the airport and pretend to be tourists. They hoped to
make the city look like a desirable travel destination, Dietrich said.
Drivers who picked up the officials from the airport followed a preplanned route, avoiding
construction and graffiti. And when the scouts left their hotel the next morning, two youth soccer
teams were set up playing on the field across the street.
Market and events people: Is this something that is commonly done?
Do you tell people about it or just let them think that all those people are really tourists?
Why would you even admit this to the WSJ?
The whole "soccer capitol of the USA" was an marketing flex that popped up before the MLS All Star game years ago - Its odd because they seem really committed to the narrative when fandom for Sporting has waned considerably, the team is giving away tickets and still getting low crowds. The Current is enjoying a nice bounce, but the commitment feels trendy and more based on being excited about women's sports and a downtown stadium then love of the beautiful game.
Besler is the only real talent to come out of the city, we will see if the "investment" pays off
There was also the odd episode a few years ago where some KC development group announced that they were building US Soccer official training ground without actually consulting them - The training facility went to Atlanta
The whole thing does not feel the slightest bit organic - Went to Wiz games in the late 90's early 2000's - there was not much love for the game in KC at that time.
Either way I will be there on the 25 for Tunisia V Netherlands - My first trip back to Arrowhead since the early 2000's Wiz games - Looking forward to it
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Yea the whole soccer capital thing was never organic. It has been a very big recent marketing push by the City. Though, many things like that for many cities are not organic and are built through marketing dollars and tourism bureaus (Chicago being the biggest perpetrator of this)
KC really took the industry plant thing to a whole new level level though, I do find it odd
They will only make it a bigger thing during and after the World Cup for sure
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KC really took the industry plant thing to a whole new level level though, I do find it odd
They will only make it a bigger thing during and after the World Cup for sure
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That's actually pathetic I'd be so disappointed if STL astroturfed stuff like that to make people think we are something we aren't. I'd rather someone see all the bad about us than some fake good.
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Yes, I know of someone who did something similar (hired actors go walk around) for their real estate project in STL. Everything else (pre-planned routes, coordinated events, etc) is just basic common sense. Every EDC, CVA, broker, real estate agent, etc is doing stuff like this.beer city wrote:https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/kansas- ... occer_pos1
From the article-
When FIFA officials scouted Kansas City as a potential host, city
officials asked volunteers to mill through the airport and pretend to be tourists. They hoped to
make the city look like a desirable travel destination, Dietrich said.
Drivers who picked up the officials from the airport followed a preplanned route, avoiding
construction and graffiti. And when the scouts left their hotel the next morning, two youth soccer
teams were set up playing on the field across the street.
Market and events people: Is this something that is commonly done?
Do you tell people about it or just let them think that all those people are really tourists?
Why would you even admit this to the WSJ?
The whole "soccer capitol of the USA" was an marketing flex that popped up before the MLS All Star game years ago - Its odd because they seem really committed to the narrative when fandom for Sporting has waned considerably, the team is giving away tickets and still getting low crowds. The Current is enjoying a nice bounce, but the commitment feels trendy and more based on being excited about women's sports and a downtown stadium then love of the beautiful game.
Besler is the only real talent to come out of the city, we will see if the "investment" pays off
There was also the odd episode a few years ago where some KC development group announced that they were building US Soccer official training ground without actually consulting them - The training facility went to Atlanta
The whole thing does not feel the slightest bit organic - Went to Wiz games in the late 90's early 2000's - there was not much love for the game in KC at that time.
Either way I will be there on the 25 for Tunisia V Netherlands - My first trip back to Arrowhead since the early 2000's Wiz games - Looking forward to it
Nashville is a great example too. Massive coordinated effort to attract businesses and increase tourism from ~1988 onwards. Was not organic per se at all. They are very open about it too.delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:Yea the whole soccer capital thing was never organic. It has been a very big recent marketing push by the City. Though, many things like that for many cities are not organic and are built through marketing dollars and tourism bureaus (Chicago being the biggest perpetrator of this)
KC really took the industry plant thing to a whole new level level though, I do find it odd
They will only make it a bigger thing during and after the World Cup for sure
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I found that whole story so bizarre.
I relayed all of this on Twitter, but that earned win for the KC tourism bureau is the perfect illustration of value of sports to a region. Sports are great for a region's brand and its resident's egos. That has a $ value - perhaps enormous! - but how much? No idea and no one really does.
With that said, I'd argue that nearly every figure in that story is BS. 650K tourists are not coming to KC for soccer games. The KC women's soccer team will not spur $1B in development.
This story is simply seeing some + dev trends and wrongly pointing to sports as *the* reason.
I relayed all of this on Twitter, but that earned win for the KC tourism bureau is the perfect illustration of value of sports to a region. Sports are great for a region's brand and its resident's egos. That has a $ value - perhaps enormous! - but how much? No idea and no one really does.
With that said, I'd argue that nearly every figure in that story is BS. 650K tourists are not coming to KC for soccer games. The KC women's soccer team will not spur $1B in development.
This story is simply seeing some + dev trends and wrongly pointing to sports as *the* reason.
The women’s soccer team’s owner is spending $1bn on mixed use development which is an easily verified figure.soulardx wrote:I found that whole story so bizarre.
I relayed all of this on Twitter, but that earned win for the KC tourism bureau is the perfect illustration of value of sports to a region. Sports are great for a region's brand and its resident's egos. That has a $ value - perhaps enormous! - but how much? No idea and no one really does.
With that said, I'd argue that nearly every figure in that story is BS. 650K tourists are not coming to KC for soccer games. The KC women's soccer team will not spur $1B in development.
This story is simply seeing some + dev trends and wrongly pointing to sports as *the* reason.
I don't consider a $1B, multi-phased BPV-type *plan* the same as $1B in actual shovels-in-ground development.ldai_phs wrote: ↑2:38 PM - 18 days agoThe women’s soccer team’s owner is spending $1bn on mixed use development which is an easily verified figure.soulardx wrote:I found that whole story so bizarre.
I relayed all of this on Twitter, but that earned win for the KC tourism bureau is the perfect illustration of value of sports to a region. Sports are great for a region's brand and its resident's egos. That has a $ value - perhaps enormous! - but how much? No idea and no one really does.
With that said, I'd argue that nearly every figure in that story is BS. 650K tourists are not coming to KC for soccer games. The KC women's soccer team will not spur $1B in development.
This story is simply seeing some + dev trends and wrongly pointing to sports as *the* reason.
Like STL, KC doesn't have the density/population to have many entertainment districts. If "Current Landing" succeeds, it will be at the expense of things like Power & Light.
I was gonna say, isn't Power & Light already going to sh*t?soulardx wrote: ↑2:51 PM - 18 days agoI don't consider a $1B, multi-phased BPV-type *plan* the same as $1B in actual shovels-in-ground development.ldai_phs wrote: ↑2:38 PM - 18 days agoThe women’s soccer team’s owner is spending $1bn on mixed use development which is an easily verified figure.soulardx wrote:I found that whole story so bizarre.
I relayed all of this on Twitter, but that earned win for the KC tourism bureau is the perfect illustration of value of sports to a region. Sports are great for a region's brand and its resident's egos. That has a $ value - perhaps enormous! - but how much? No idea and no one really does.
With that said, I'd argue that nearly every figure in that story is BS. 650K tourists are not coming to KC for soccer games. The KC women's soccer team will not spur $1B in development.
This story is simply seeing some + dev trends and wrongly pointing to sports as *the* reason.
Like STL, KC doesn't have the density/population to have many entertainment districts. If "Current Landing" succeeds, it will be at the expense of things like Power & Light.
No, P&L leasing is doing well and they are starting to build out the last few retail stalls that were left empty. DJ Kygo opened a club-staurant in the fall that’s pretty popular. The Plaza is the one with poor leasing that you might be confusing it with.Otthouse wrote:I was gonna say, isn't Power & Light already going to sh*t?soulardx wrote: ↑2:51 PM - 18 days agoI don't consider a $1B, multi-phased BPV-type *plan* the same as $1B in actual shovels-in-ground development.ldai_phs wrote: ↑2:38 PM - 18 days agoThe women’s soccer team’s owner is spending $1bn on mixed use development which is an easily verified figure.
Like STL, KC doesn't have the density/population to have many entertainment districts. If "Current Landing" succeeds, it will be at the expense of things like Power & Light.
The Current Landing project isn’t a party district. More restaurant and park/river oriented in terms of activities. Just landed a Michelin’s stared chef to a new concept restaurant that will open this summer. Probably won’t compete with P&L.
Bosnia playing a friendly here before the World Cup. I can’t read the details. So if anyone wants to fill them in feel free.
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/profess ... user-share
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June 6 vs Panemajshank83 wrote:Bosnia playing a friendly here before the World Cup. I can’t read the details. So if anyone wants to fill them in feel free.
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Of course I’ll be out of town… thanks for the detailsStlAlex wrote: ↑9:54 PM - 1 day agoJune 6 vs Panemajshank83 wrote:Bosnia playing a friendly here before the World Cup. I can’t read the details. So if anyone wants to fill them in feel free.
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