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PostOct 15, 2025#7126

Dumb idea.  Another example of St. Louis's "can't-do" spirit and "think small" mentality.  No great city would even entertain such a stupid reuse for a pocket park. If plentiful parking was going to help improve downtown, we'd be like Times Square by now. 

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St. Louis could sell a downtown park. Buyer wants a parking lot there.

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PostOct 15, 2025#7127

I take your point but it's an unused park now, it's not some giant plot and/or building that's being destroyed, and it can get built upon eventually. And honestly without Berglund and his investment that area would be worse

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PostOct 15, 2025#7128

Because parking lots make ton of passive money the acquisition cost for future development will likely be prohibitive.

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PostOct 15, 2025#7129

As long as St.Patrick’s center is there that “park” cannot be reopened


Eventually the City will be asked to turn over the “park” between soldiers and the library and should absolutely jump on the opportunity to do it because of what the new owner would put there

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PostOct 15, 2025#7130

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Oct 15, 2025
As long as St.Patrick’s center is there that “park” cannot be reopened


Eventually the City will be asked to turn over the “park” between soldiers and the library and should absolutely jump on the opportunity to do it because of what the new owner would put there
Can you give an example of what a new owner would want to put there?

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PostOct 15, 2025#7131

Family friendly amenities and low rise retails shops
with pedestrian only corridors

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PostOct 16, 2025#7132

stlgasm wrote:
Oct 15, 2025
Dumb idea.  Another example of St. Louis's "can't-do" spirit and "think small" mentality.  No great city would even entertain such a stupid reuse for a pocket park. If plentiful parking was going to help improve downtown, we'd be like Times Square by now. 

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St. Louis could sell a downtown park. Buyer wants a parking lot there.
More parking anywhere downtown, especially “downtown north” as they are calling it now, is just an instant no for perpetuity unless something changes. There are more parking spaces in that area than residents in the city of St. Louis. And all of their owners just let the lots and the area around them sit there and deteriorate

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PostOct 16, 2025#7133

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Oct 15, 2025
Family friendly amenities and low rise retails shops
with pedestrian only corridors
Something like this?
1760584588637.jpg (1.56MiB)

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PostOct 16, 2025#7134

Yeah something like that

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PostOct 17, 2025#7136

Well known county bagel shop will be opening soon in Downtown west


Also Bella’s to became a coffee shop

https://www.stlmag.com/dining/bellas-on ... n-rebrand/

PostOct 21, 2025#7137

Audacy (KMOX and other radio stations) currently located on the 3rd floor of park pacific have started to look for another place.  Their lease is up in 2028 and will not likely renew.  They’ve had issues with flooding in the office, poor facility maintenance and cleaning (like bathroom tp not being re stocked) and issues with garage where their guests have been stuck due to pay station not working or doors just not functioning.   The building and the garage does have a new owner as of few weeks ago and a new property management folks in place, hopefully they’ll have a better chance changing their mind before April 2028

They have a 100 spots in the garage but any given day another 40-50 people are at the station, pre
Covid it was 75-90

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PostOct 21, 2025#7138

Any word on if they plan to stay downtown? They are basically the only local media left and losing them would be fairly devastating. Maybe they can get a sweetheart deal at BPV or somewhere nearby.

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PostOct 21, 2025#7139

I wouldnt be surprised, they seem to be downtown committed

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PostOct 21, 2025#7140

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Oct 21, 2025
Audacy (KMOX and other radio stations) currently located on the 3rd floor of park pacific have started to look for another place.  Their lease is up in 2028 and will not likely renew.  They’ve had issues with flooding in the office, poor facility maintenance and cleaning (like bathroom tp not being re stocked) and issues with garage where their guests have been stuck due to pay station not working or doors just not functioning.   The building and the garage does have a new owner as of few weeks ago and a new property management folks in place, hopefully they’ll have a better chance changing their mind before April 2028

They have a 100 spots in the garage but any given day another 40-50 people are at the station, pre
Covid it was 75-90
That garage exit is STILL a problem? I used to park in there for Blues games but gave up after being trapped multiple times. I can't imagine what it was like for full time residents and employees.

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PostOct 21, 2025#7141

Garage is finally getting a new complete entrance system that’s cell based.

New owner isn’t particularly concerned about audacy leaving, the charter school on the second floor has done from 70 to 300 students and want the entire audacy space

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PostOct 21, 2025#7142

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Oct 21, 2025
Audacy (KMOX and other radio stations) currently located on the 3rd floor of park pacific have started to look for another place.  Their lease is up in 2028 and will not likely renew.  They’ve had issues with flooding in the office, poor facility maintenance and cleaning (like bathroom tp not being re stocked) and issues with garage where their guests have been stuck due to pay station not working or doors just not functioning.   The building and the garage does have a new owner as of few weeks ago and a new property management folks in place, hopefully they’ll have a better chance changing their mind before April 2028

They have a 100 spots in the garage but any given day another 40-50 people are at the station, pre
Covid it was 75-90
Well we know the cheapest office space they're gonna find will be downtown. I'd also like they city to offer earnings tax breaks to keep them in the city if it comes to that. Be a chance for Spencer to do what she was elected for.

Does the charter school count as occupied office space?

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PostOct 21, 2025#7143

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Oct 21, 2025
Garage is finally getting a new complete entrance system that’s cell based.  
I've never seen a garage operator hate operating a garage so much like the Parc Pacific garage.

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PostOct 23, 2025#7144

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... d7f29.html

State judge throws out law that expanded historical tax credits, putting multiple projects across St. Louis at risk for cancelation or delays.

The Attorney General said the state will be appealing the ruling.

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PostOct 23, 2025#7145

While I'm glad the charter school will take the space I'm not certain its a net gain that we lose 50-100 employees downtown (even if hybrid).  Grade school kids arent going out for lunch and pretty sure the school and all activities are tax exempt. 

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PostOct 24, 2025#7146

A lot of their employees are very pro staying downtown. I’ve connected someone that reps office space at the union station office park. I just don’t know where the mayors office or GSL are on this. Whatever they’re all getting paid they should just send it to me

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PostOct 24, 2025#7147

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Oct 24, 2025
A lot of their employees are very pro staying downtown. I’ve connected someone that reps office space at the union station office park. I just don’t know where the mayors office or GSL are on this. Whatever they’re all getting paid they should just send it to me
The mayor ran on being the downtown candidate, so she sure as ***** better be doing whatever she can to keep them downtown.

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PostOct 24, 2025#7148

dbInSouthCity wrote:A lot of their employees are very pro staying downtown. I’ve connected someone that reps office space at the union station office park. I just don’t know where the mayors office or GSL are on this. Whatever they’re all getting paid they should just send it to me
Hopefully the mayor’s office is working on that. It sounds like GSL doesn’t do much BRE work in Downtown outside of the major employers so I’m not counting on them


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PostOct 24, 2025#7149

There's so much cheap office space downtown, and in buildings where they could have signage. If employees prefer to stay, you'd think downtown would have the advantage.

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PostOct 24, 2025#7150

I texted her comms guy to give them a heads up, so we’ll see

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