especially when whenever you want to renovate the park or arch the feds seem to want to take minimal financial responsibility and instead look to get the bulk through local fundraising.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑May 27, 2022^This was and is one of my concerns with making the arch a full-blown national park. (And it is one of my concerns with the move to hand Cahokia Mounds to the feds.) It's silliness. I honestly wish there were a way to take it back from the federal government entirely.
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I don’t hate it. Spreads the crowd and operations around downtown vs all being concentrated. A majority will still be at the Arch to watch the fireworks.
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This is not have anything to do with it being a national park...EXCEPT that all national parks are still observing COVID 19 protocols, making it impossible for them to approve the event on their grounds. This move to BPV/Keiner is a temporary solution until able to return to Arch grounds that brings the event back downtown as a boost to businesses.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑May 27, 2022^This was and is one of my concerns with making the arch a full-blown national park. (And it is one of my concerns with the move to hand Cahokia Mounds to the feds.) It's silliness. I honestly wish there were a way to take it back from the federal government entirely.
I don't hate it either, but they need to shift programming to other areas of Downtown. I think a better opportunity would have been to close an arterial or two (wash or olive) and get vendors to set up shop there. BPV will always be there for a bite or a pint in a chain-bar-esque state, we don't need duplicative coverage of event programming there.
Plus, there's more shade along those streets. I have PTSD from Fair St Louis at the arch as a kid simply due to the fact that the main areas had little to no shade.
Plus, there's more shade along those streets. I have PTSD from Fair St Louis at the arch as a kid simply due to the fact that the main areas had little to no shade.
KSDK - Celebrate Saint Louis returns to downtown in 2025 without America's Birthday Parade
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https://www.ksdk.com/article/entertainm ... 9895cd564f
Glad there's some news. I have never even heard of this headliner. But, I'm also a metal guy. Maybe it's a draw?quincunx wrote: ↑May 08, 2025KSDK - Celebrate Saint Louis returns to downtown in 2025 without America's Birthday Parade
https://www.ksdk.com/article/entertainm ... 9895cd564f
I just remember when Fair St. Louis hosted some big headliners (Elton John, John Denver, Dolly, etc.). Shame we can't get someone in to organize it. Or maybe the money just isn't there.
Still shocked we can't get a real festival here too. Evolution is decent but also watered down for accessible and overly diverse taste. There's no compass it seems. Even Louisville gets the benefit of more than decent festivals.
What kind of genre-focused fest do you think could actually work here? Metal, indie, jazz? We’ve got the scenes, just not the infrastructure or vision to package it. Maybe it’s time for a locally grown reboot rather than trying to copy bigger cities.bwcrow1s wrote: ↑May 09, 2025Glad there's some news. I have never even heard of this headliner. But, I'm also a metal guy. Maybe it's a draw?quincunx wrote: ↑May 08, 2025KSDK - Celebrate Saint Louis returns to downtown in 2025 without America's Birthday Parade
https://www.ksdk.com/article/entertainm ... 9895cd564f
I just remember when Fair St. Louis hosted some big headliners (Elton John, John Denver, Dolly, etc.). Shame we can't get someone in to organize it. Or maybe the money just isn't there.
Still shocked we can't get a real festival here too. Evolution is decent but also watered down for accessible and overly diverse taste. There's no compass it seems. Even Louisville gets the benefit of more than decent festivals.
One that was home grown and inexplicably left to die silently would just be getting killer acts for Fair St. Louis. Plan that over a 3 or 4 day weekend and that's an instant festival.
Boeing is local, and put the air show back on.
Who had the money in the past? Who was bankrolling the productions?
Boeing is local, and put the air show back on.
Who had the money in the past? Who was bankrolling the productions?
MATI - Music At The Intersection is a wonderful festival in Grand Center. Happens in September. Great national acts and a focus on LOCAL talent.
Large companies bankrolled it. Specifically, large companies that had Veiled Prophet members in their leadership ranks bankrolled it. Some of those homegrown companies left, others scaled back, others recruited their C-suites from other cities (or in some cases other countries) and those people have different philanthropic interests - interests much less tied to St. Louis and our history here.bwcrow1s wrote: ↑May 09, 2025One that was home grown and inexplicably left to die silently would just be getting killer acts for Fair St. Louis. Plan that over a 3 or 4 day weekend and that's an instant festival.
Boeing is local, and put the air show back on.
Who had the money in the past? Who was bankrolling the productions?