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Auggie, the Old Testament talks about impoverished homeless people. They’ve been around a while and will always be around. FYI.

Auggie wrote: ↑

Apr 25, 2025

Meanwhile: People are still homeless, people are still impoverished, people are still being victimized by criminals.

But now, people who mostly don't even live in the city can park their cars with marginally more ease.

Priorities!

Dude you are so negative on every post. Chill.

Zone.Out wrote: ↑

Apr 25, 2025

Auggie wrote: ↑

Apr 25, 2025

Meanwhile: People are still homeless, people are still impoverished, people are still being victimized by criminals.

But now, people who mostly don't even live in the city can park their cars with marginally more ease.

Priorities!

Dude you are so negative on every post. Chill.

A plurality of my posts on here have been about the positive trajectory of the city under the previous mayor. I've done a ton of pushing back against baseless negativity, and now you think me stating facts is "so negative".

If you only look at the negative posts then sure all my posts are negative.

“You can please some of the people some of the time, others you can please once in a while and still others you can’t please any of the time, but if you only strive to please yourself all of the time, you have and are a problem.”     

Cars removed = good
Homeless population needs help = true

These don't have to exist in tension with each other?

jtlq53 wrote: ↑

Apr 26, 2025

Cars removed = good
Homeless population needs help = true

These don't have to exist in tension with each other?

Cars in a car garage = meaningless non-issue that you have to be incredibly privileged to care about much less b**** about to the city.

Homeless = an actual issue that privileged people don't care or worry about because they're too busy being worried about some cars in a car garage.

This isn't "one or the other", man. Someone can care about getting abandoned vehicles towed while also caring about the unhoused community. Jeeze.

Unfortunately, and I mean this sincerely, solving homelessness isn't nearly as easy as sending a tow truck. You obviously know this, so why does it have to be one or the other? The Streets Department has a budget and a responsibility, which definitely includes towing smashed vehicles that are sitting on cinder blocks on city property in its downtown business district.

I don't see why you have to hate on me so bad on this issue.

jtlq53 wrote: ↑

Apr 26, 2025

Cars removed = good
Homeless population needs help = true

These don't have to exist in tension with each other?

Nope. Zero sum. Auggie must be right and we all must be wrong.

We are the only developed country in the world that chooses not to solve homelessness, gun violence and lack of medical care. FREEDUMB!

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:We are the only developed country in the world that chooses not to solve homelessness, gun violence and lack of medical care. FREEDUMB!

Right. But these issues have nothing to do with towing abandoned cars.

Do they not? How much of the City’s budget that could go to services like towing abandoned cars is instead diverted to bandaging the wounds caused by our state and federal governments’ CHOICE not to solve homelessness, gun violence and medical care?

You can throw in education too

Tim wrote: ↑

Apr 26, 2025

This isn't "one or the other", man. Someone can care about getting abandoned vehicles towed while also caring about the unhoused community. Jeeze.

Unfortunately, and I mean this sincerely, solving homelessness isn't nearly as easy as sending a tow truck. You obviously know this, so why does it have to be one or the other? The Streets Department has a budget and a responsibility, which definitely includes towing smashed vehicles that are sitting on cinder blocks on city property in its downtown business district.

I don't see why you have to hate on me so bad on this issue.

Except it isn't that simple. They used city resources to tow cars parked out of the way in a city owned parking garage to another city owned parking lot, probably the already strained impound lot, to take up space there for who knows how long. So the city is still effectively paying to house these cars, but used additional resources to shuffle them around for the pleasure of people who want to park their cars with more ease. The number of people that use of resources helps is literally in the dozens, if that.

The fact you even posted pictures of these cars and bitched about it on here, on Twitter, and to the city can be only 1 of 2 things, you either just did it to score political points or you're genuinely just incredibly privileged to the point where parked cars in a car-parking garage is something you deem worthy to complain about.

all maintenance and services that do not directly involve ending homelessness should be discontinued until homelessness is ended. very reasonable solution.

(p.s. i was in Switzerland recently--an arguably very developed nation--and they have not "solved" homelessness.)

Auggie, stop with the attacks already.

I've been a member of this forum for 6 years without issue, but there has been a noticeable uptick in negativity since you joined. I'm not the first person to point this out.

I will be blocking you (first time in 6 years that I felt like this was necessary), so please don't bother responding to any of my posts. I won't be reading them. And, I ask that you please block me too so you don't have to hear my privileged attacks on the unhoused community. Good day.

Median liberal white privileged response: Block people who call out my bullsh*t.

Imagine how big of a mess this forum would be if everyone took pictures and posted every little issue they find in the city. ***** parked cars in a car garage. Dumbest sh*t I've ever seen.

This isn't a complaint board, or that's what the rules say. Not that they're enforce equally.

Auggie, you are incredibly annoying and pick up a fight over everything.  You question " how big of a mess this forum would be if everyone took pictures and posted every little issue they find in the city."
Well guess what, you are doing exactly that over every little thing that doesn't align with your point of view. You have a very strict world view and you and only you are right about everything. If you don't see something as a problem, then no one has the right to complain about it. Only your point of view is acceptable and if someone dares to say something different you hijack the entire forum and go on and on and on about it.

If I want to complain about a pothole, I will complain about that damn pothole and it's stupid for someone as arrogant as you to disregard those complains because you think other issues have priorities. 

You need to stop. I hope moderators see that your contributions to this forum are very toxic and we would all be better off if you stop.

I saw earlier that he had the most recent post in like 7 of the last 11 discussions. 

Rick Prieto wrote: ↑

Apr 28, 2025

Auggie, you are incredibly annoying and pick up a fight over everything.  You question " how big of a mess this forum would be if everyone took pictures and posted every little issue they find in the city."
Well guess what, you are doing exactly that over every little thing that doesn't align with your point of view. You have a very strict world view and you and only you are right about everything. If you don't see something as a problem, then no one has the right to complain about it. Only your point of view is acceptable and if someone dares to say something different you hijack the entire forum and go on and on and on about it.

If I want to complain about a pothole, I will complain about that damn pothole and it's stupid for someone as arrogant as you to disregard those complains because you think other issues have priorities. 

You need to stop. I hope moderators see that your contributions to this forum are very toxic and we would all be better off if you stop.

Except we aren't talking about a pothole, a pothole being fixed would unironically impact more people to a higher degree than shuffling around parked cars, we're talking about using my tax dollars to move parked cars from a city owned parking garage to a city owned impound lot because 1 person bitched to the city relentlessly.

If you knew anything about Tim's contributions, you'd know he does almost nothing but complain about things and never thinks about why things actually happen or broader implications of things he complains about.

If you knew anything about my contributions, you'd know that I post significantly more about other things than people using this forum as a complaint forum about cars parked in a parking garage.

You have no clue about my world view. I guarantee it's broader than yours.

So to just put a bow on this one, there were some cars sitting in a garage for a really long time. Not a huge deal but something that has to be addressed eventually. City got around to addressing the relatively small lift of removing the cars (kind of what the towing department does).

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Apr 28, 2025

So to just put a bow on this one, there were some cars sitting in a garage for a really long time. Not a huge deal but something that has to be addressed eventually. City got around to addressing the relatively small lift of removing the cars (kind of what the towing department does).

Correct.

And there is also a red light out at I-44 and Vandaventer that could unironically get someone killed, yet it remains out and unfixed.

This is my actual point that none of you, including Tim, actually care to engage with. There's tons of actual problems that can easily be fixed that actually impact people, like a traffic light out, and problems that have been getting improved for years, like crime, but Matt spends his time thinking about cars parked in a parking garage because I guess they impact his parking experience.

My argument is that it's a total waste of the city's limited resources to move these cars. And no one has made the case for why it's not.

Pointing out problems and inefficiency in government, no matter how small the issue is, benefits us all. This is part of the accountability process. It's the job of the government to hear these complaints and make the decisions on how (or if) to address them.   

Pointing this out on a forum hurts literally nobody. Such a strange hill for Auggie to die on.

Auggie wrote:

Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑

Apr 28, 2025

So to just put a bow on this one, there were some cars sitting in a garage for a really long time. Not a huge deal but something that has to be addressed eventually. City got around to addressing the relatively small lift of removing the cars (kind of what the towing department does).

Correct.

And there is also a red light out at I-44 and Vandaventer that could unironically get someone killed, yet it remains out and unfixed.

This is my actual point that none of you, including Matt, actually care to engage with. There's tons of actual problems that can easily be fixed that actually impact people, like a traffic light out, and problems that have been getting improved for years, like crime, but Matt spends his time thinking about cars parked in a parking garage because I guess they impact his parking experience.

My argument is that it's a total waste of the city's limited resources to move these cars. And no one has made the case for why it's not.

But spending a small amount of resources to tow cars doesn’t take away anything from the people responsible for fixing traffic lights, crime, or anything else. It’s not one or the other. I guess you could make the case to slash the relatively small towing budget and spend it elsewhere, but I haven’t seen enough to make the case that it’s wise to do so. There’s a good amount of abandoned cars throughout the city. So again, I ask: Who really cares either way? The cars are gone. Not a bad thing. This just isn’t an issue that matters enough to blowup the downtown thread about.