What's your problem dude? No one is lying. There are still quite a few streets I would consider significant thoroughfares that are conpletely or mostly covered in ice and snow.
The main roads and secondary roads in South City are all clear and very easy to navigate. Side roads haven't been touched but still pretty easy to navigate if you take your time.Auggie wrote: ↑Jan 11, 2025I am only saying the truth. The reality is that every major road is clear and has been clear for days. Idk about the highways since I don't use them regularly, but in south city where I am, literally every primary and even most secondary roads are clear down to pavement. Never been gaslit this hard in my life by so many people.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Jan 11, 2025No, you stop saying everything is good.
Yet another lie. Literally every snow the side streets get snow covered because they aren't touched, never get touched, and that's how it's always been. Most are too narrow to run a plow down and salt isn't gonna do much when the snow is more than an inch. You're gaslighting yourself now by trying to act like the side streets get magically clear right after it snows? This is always how it's been. Main streets clear (like they are) and side streets not clear. I don't know where you learned that they run plows down the narrow side streets but they don't and they never have.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Jan 11, 2025What's your problem dude? No one is lying. There are still quite a few streets I would consider significant thoroughfares that are conpletely or mostly covered in ice and snow.
Hopefully the above freezing temps today and tomorrow change that but it's the longest I've seen these streets covered in the 20 years I've lived in the city.
What are the people lying about the streets getting out of it? I'm just telling the truth. Today ran a bunch if errands around south city, south county, and then attended the Blues game. Every road I drove on was clear down to pavement and saw 0 stuck cars.MattnSTL wrote: ↑Jan 12, 2025I live on a secondary snow route on the northside. It was plowed once this week on Friday afternoon. The plow rode over the top of the consolidated sleet, and the salt didn't do much at this point. The secondary snow route that intersects my block that is also a bus route has not been plowed or salted once yet. Main roads are in relatively good condition, and have been since Tuesday. A lot of secondary routes still have barely been touched. The sides streets are what they always are, and that's fine. Continuing to dig in on the perfection of the snow clearing work is just so bizarre. I don't even know what you're getting out of it. If the crews had dug in as much as you have here, our streets would be pristine.
Now if we're going to talk reasons, there are plenty. Understaffing, heavy sleet layer that is much tougher to deal with than just snow, prolonged cold after the storm in comparison to a typical snow around here, inexperience of crews because we just haven't gotten a ton of snow in the last decade, too many lane miles to maintain regionally, stuck cars in the way because people thought they could drive too soon, bad management in some cases, and more. It hasn't been a problem for me personally because I haven't really had much of anywhere to go, but I have a 4wd truck and a Bobcat sitting in my garage that I can dig myself out with if I had to. That's a bit atypical. I know of many people in my neighborhood that have given up on driving their own cars anywhere until the streets melt down. Which is starting to happen this weekend. We'll see how far that goes before it gets cold again Sunday night. It's a temporary inconvenience, but it certainly hasn't been good for local small businesses. At least those that aren't in snow clearing. It's never been better there.
NYC definitely did it back when we lived there. Just had a permanent plow hitch on the front of each truck and they'd plop on a plough whenever it snowed. Worked pretty well.STLinCHI wrote: ↑Jan 11, 2025Cleveland and other cities convert trash trucks into plows. Takes an hour to do the conversion. Much cheaper than purchasing new vehicles and effective on narrower streets. Seems like those trucks are just parked anyway. https://fox8.com/video/i-team-garbage-t ... g/9358072/
12th Street in Soulard is a snow route, a bus route, and is not clear as of Saturday night. If a plow went down it you can't tell. Just looks like several days of people driving over it.STLAPTS wrote: ↑Jan 11, 2025The main roads and secondary roads in South City are all clear and very easy to navigate. Side roads haven't been touched but still pretty easy to navigate if you take your time.Auggie wrote: ↑Jan 11, 2025I am only saying the truth. The reality is that every major road is clear and has been clear for days. Idk about the highways since I don't use them regularly, but in south city where I am, literally every primary and even most secondary roads are clear down to pavement. Never been gaslit this hard in my life by so many people.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Jan 11, 2025No, you stop saying everything is good.
No one is lying. Your experience is real. So are the experiences of other people. You just cannot acknowledge that there are other experiences beyond what you have seen in the past week. It's all real. No public works crews did a perfectly fine job, but they also didn't do no job. It could be definitely be better, and it could absolutely be worse. We should always be striving for better, not good enough for me, but who cares about anyone else having real problems.Auggie wrote: ↑Jan 12, 2025What are the people lying about the streets getting out of it? I'm just telling the truth. Today ran a bunch if errands around south city, south county, and then attended the Blues game. Every road I drove on was clear down to pavement and saw 0 stuck cars.MattnSTL wrote: ↑Jan 12, 2025I live on a secondary snow route on the northside. It was plowed once this week on Friday afternoon. The plow rode over the top of the consolidated sleet, and the salt didn't do much at this point. The secondary snow route that intersects my block that is also a bus route has not been plowed or salted once yet. Main roads are in relatively good condition, and have been since Tuesday. A lot of secondary routes still have barely been touched. The sides streets are what they always are, and that's fine. Continuing to dig in on the perfection of the snow clearing work is just so bizarre. I don't even know what you're getting out of it. If the crews had dug in as much as you have here, our streets would be pristine.
Now if we're going to talk reasons, there are plenty. Understaffing, heavy sleet layer that is much tougher to deal with than just snow, prolonged cold after the storm in comparison to a typical snow around here, inexperience of crews because we just haven't gotten a ton of snow in the last decade, too many lane miles to maintain regionally, stuck cars in the way because people thought they could drive too soon, bad management in some cases, and more. It hasn't been a problem for me personally because I haven't really had much of anywhere to go, but I have a 4wd truck and a Bobcat sitting in my garage that I can dig myself out with if I had to. That's a bit atypical. I know of many people in my neighborhood that have given up on driving their own cars anywhere until the streets melt down. Which is starting to happen this weekend. We'll see how far that goes before it gets cold again Sunday night. It's a temporary inconvenience, but it certainly hasn't been good for local small businesses. At least those that aren't in snow clearing. It's never been better there.
It's made up. End of story. City and County did a perfectly fine job and people need to get their heads out of their asses or go out and shovel themselves.
