Telling people and business owners they're stupid for being frustrated at impassable streets region wide FIVE DAYS after a snowstorm is a good look. Keep at it!Auggie wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2025If this has any impact on the mayoral election, this city is as brain dead as the state. Clearly no one knows what big snow is like because this isn't that bad, the city and county's response isn't that bad, and yet everyone can't handle it.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2025I posted on the mayoral election thread about the potential of the snowstorm response to affect the results. I strongly believe it could be a major factor.
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I've definitely been pondering the degradation of our sense of community walking around our neighborhood these past few day. In McKinley Heights maybe only 1/10 houses have shoveled their sidewalk
I'm not really complaining (ok maybe a little), but just pointing out how difficult navigating the city streets can be even days after the snow stops falling. It has been a frustrating week for us, but life goes on. We've been on Cherokee Street for 15 years, so a little snow can't get us down! I agree there are much bigger things worth complaining about than snow, but it still greatly impacts small businesses.
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Streets brutal today. Stay safe everyone.
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Speaking for myself this ice crap busted my shovel and it's not like I can easily buy a replacement.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2025I've definitely been pondering the degradation of our sense of community walking around our neighborhood these past few day. In McKinley Heights maybe only 1/10 houses have shoveled their sidewalk
As far as "sense of comminity" 3 complete strangers helped dig our my girlfriends car when it got stuck puling into a gas station.
My point is that the streets aren't impassable and your making this up lol.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2025Telling people and business owners they're stupid for being frustrated at impassable streets region wide FIVE DAYS after a snowstorm is a good look. Keep at it!Auggie wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2025If this has any impact on the mayoral election, this city is as brain dead as the state. Clearly no one knows what big snow is like because this isn't that bad, the city and county's response isn't that bad, and yet everyone can't handle it.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2025I posted on the mayoral election thread about the potential of the snowstorm response to affect the results. I strongly believe it could be a major factor.
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^You're right. No one is getting stuck in the snow. Streets completely passable. Carry on.
Getting stuck is a you problem. Not the city's or county's.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2025^You're right. No one is getting stuck in the snow. Streets completely passable. Carry on.
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I've been in Soulard 15 years and I've never seen Russell, 12th and 9th Streets (the three biggest commercial avenues in the neighborhood) look like this 5 days after a snow.
Is part of that due to unusual weather conditions like the sleet prior to the snow and the lingering below freezing temps? Sure. But it's still unusual for so many main streets to still be snow covered after so many days.
On the bright side the bars and restaurants that have been open seem to be doing brisk business with so many Soulardians staying in the neighborhood for a week. Some have had issues with employees being able to get to work however.
Is part of that due to unusual weather conditions like the sleet prior to the snow and the lingering below freezing temps? Sure. But it's still unusual for so many main streets to still be snow covered after so many days.
On the bright side the bars and restaurants that have been open seem to be doing brisk business with so many Soulardians staying in the neighborhood for a week. Some have had issues with employees being able to get to work however.
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@Auggie and @Baltimore Jack cool down folks. this was a once in a decade snow storm which dumped tons of snow and city and county were caught off-guard which is due to them being unprepared.
I am seeing countless posts on nextdoor where people are posting for help to dig themselves and their cars out.
I am seeing countless posts on nextdoor where people are posting for help to dig themselves and their cars out.
A friend of mine from Portland has been in town all week- staying at the AC Hotel in the CWE. He moved here briefly in the early 2000s from Chicago when his girlfriend was in grad school at Wash U, so I asked him how he liked being back in the Red Brick Mama. He texted back (I literally copied and pasted his message): "Why does St. Louis hate pedestrians? Dressels was cozy. I am frustrated by the state of the streets and sidewalks. It’s so bad. How can they not plow all the lanes of Kingshighway ?? t’s garbage. I think it’s a lack of pride and respect"
That's the impression from a casual (and well-traveled) visitor, and I think it's pretty fair. I think there's room for improvement, that's all.
That's the impression from a casual (and well-traveled) visitor, and I think it's pretty fair. I think there's room for improvement, that's all.
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I've heard some say this is a "once in a decade" winter storm. But with climate change maybe we'll have these kind of large snow/sleet events more frequently.
If we do I certainly hope our region isn't crippled for a week once a year or even every other year.
And it would behoove all of our city, county, and state leaders to look at what happened this week and work to make response better in the future.
If we do I certainly hope our region isn't crippled for a week once a year or even every other year.
And it would behoove all of our city, county, and state leaders to look at what happened this week and work to make response better in the future.
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It’s a lack resources, not pride and respect. Same reason pedestrians in Portland have to dodge human sh*t and used syringes on the sidewalks. It’s not that Portland doesn’t respect itself
Over here on the Illinois side, the main roads are all clear pretty much.
Maybe MoDOT just isn’t being funded properly? I don’t think that’s gaslighting.
The Metro East is looking more attractive day after day.
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Maybe MoDOT just isn’t being funded properly? I don’t think that’s gaslighting.
The Metro East is looking more attractive day after day.
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MoDOT has tons a funding. It built too much to take care of and is building more.
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is it the unattractive low pay for city workers that is stretching their resources thin compounded by high turnover rate?quincunx wrote: ↑Jan 11, 2025MoDOT has tons a funding. It built too much to take care of and is building more.
That too. Paying their people better would get in the way of funneling tax dollars to road builders.
Remember 2014
Stl PR - Public Angst Prompts St. Louis City To Plow Side Streets
https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... de-streets
StlToday - Snowfall special report: Hang onto your side mirrors
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/col ... d371d.html
Joe Holleman chided whiney young/ new millennial residents in the central corridor for the impending doom of side street plowing. In reality snow complaints came from all over he city.
Stl PR - Public Angst Prompts St. Louis City To Plow Side Streets
https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... de-streets
StlToday - Snowfall special report: Hang onto your side mirrors
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/col ... d371d.html
Joe Holleman chided whiney young/ new millennial residents in the central corridor for the impending doom of side street plowing. In reality snow complaints came from all over he city.
Cleveland and other cities convert trash trucks into plows. Takes an hour to do the conversion. Much cheaper than purchasing new vehicles and effective on narrower streets. Seems like those trucks are just parked anyway. https://fox8.com/video/i-team-garbage-t ... g/9358072/
No it doesn't. Every main road I've driven on since Tuesday has been clear. Stop lying.
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No, you stop saying everything is good.
I am only saying the truth. The reality is that every major road is clear and has been clear for days. Idk about the highways since I don't use them regularly, but in south city where I am, literally every primary and even most secondary roads are clear down to pavement. Never been gaslit this hard in my life by so many people.