I like Kingside but this seems like a weird concept and that rendering looks bleak. And idk how high demand is for carryout/delivery breakfast in any case...
Looks fine. If you're looking for ways to make the Loop a 16/18 hour neighborhood, having breakfast options is a solid start. Especially for the amount of students living around there and using public transit, biking, or walking to Wash U.
Myself I always thought it could use a couple more drink-only pubs too to sustain nightlife.
Myself I always thought it could use a couple more drink-only pubs too to sustain nightlife.
^ I agree some variety is a good thing. As for the pubs to sustain nightlife...I've been to The Loop at night a couple of times recently, and it was striking (to me) just how dead it was on the weekend. Part of it's probably legit, part of it just perception, and also not unique to The Loop. I'm trying to think of places open beyond 11pm. Eclipse, ITAP, Puzzles, Insomnia, Ranoush, Blueberry Hill, Milano, W Karaoke...? So there are a few places, but yeah it'd be nice to sprinkle in a few more, or just get existing places to extend hours (thinking of Three Kings, specifically, and maybe even Mission Taco).
It really is striking how dead the Loop is at prime times.EssTeeEll wrote: ↑Apr 29, 2022^ I agree some variety is a good thing. As for the pubs to sustain nightlife...I've been to The Loop at night a couple of times recently, and it was striking (to me) just how dead it was on the weekend. Part of it's probably legit, part of it just perception, and also not unique to The Loop. I'm trying to think of places open beyond 11pm. Eclipse, ITAP, Puzzles, Insomnia, Ranoush, Blueberry Hill, Milano, W Karaoke...? So there are a few places, but yeah it'd be nice to sprinkle in a few more, or just get existing places to extend hours (thinking of Three Kings, specifically, and maybe even Mission Taco).
I know staffing post-COVID is a b****, but it would be nice if Mission Taco could go a bit later. Midnight maybe? It really is interesting to see how many people they turn away 30 minutes before close as they go carry-out only during that draw-down.
The current traffic levels just reiterate how big a loss the closing of Ciceros was.
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That hasn’t really been my experience. Everytime I’ve been on the loop lately the foot traffic has been pretty high and restaurants have been crowded. Had a 55 minute wait for Corner 17 on a Sunday recently.dweebe wrote:It really is striking how dead the Loop is at prime times.EssTeeEll wrote: ↑Apr 29, 2022^ I agree some variety is a good thing. As for the pubs to sustain nightlife...I've been to The Loop at night a couple of times recently, and it was striking (to me) just how dead it was on the weekend. Part of it's probably legit, part of it just perception, and also not unique to The Loop. I'm trying to think of places open beyond 11pm. Eclipse, ITAP, Puzzles, Insomnia, Ranoush, Blueberry Hill, Milano, W Karaoke...? So there are a few places, but yeah it'd be nice to sprinkle in a few more, or just get existing places to extend hours (thinking of Three Kings, specifically, and maybe even Mission Taco).
I know staffing post-COVID is a b****, but it would be nice if Mission Taco could go a bit later. Midnight maybe? It really is interesting to see how many people they turn away 30 minutes before close as they go carry-out only during that draw-down.
The current traffic levels just reiterate how big a loss the closing of Ciceros was.
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^ It did seem more bustling when I went to S+S for lunch one time recently. It was 10pm and beyond that has seemed deader than I was expecting the few times I was there. But again, if there is any truth to that I don't think it's strictly a Loop issue.
Delmar will be closed to traffic this Saturday for Shop the Loop:
https://universitycityloop.com/events/shop-the-loop/
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https://universitycityloop.com/events/shop-the-loop/
StlToday - As Blueberry Hill turns 50, Delmar Loop destination continues to thrill
https://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/ ... ff0da.htmlBlueberry Hill will celebrate Sept. 8 with a public event featuring the opening of a 10-year time capsule and the start of a new one, a screening of an opening night video, prizes, a photo booth, a Champagne toast and a blue carpet.
My father was throwing darts at Blueberry Hill the night I was born, so I have always felt a little bit of kinship to it. Glad to see it reach such an auspicious anniversary.
Apologies - this question is more west loop than east loop. I couldnt' find a better thread....
Does anyone know why Salt and Smoke got rid of their seating area that was in the parking spaces in front of it, but other places on the U City side of the loop (like Ranoush, which is just a couple doors down) kept theirs? Salt and Smoke still has a handful of tables on the sidewalk, but it's got to be like a third of what their capacity was before.
Does anyone know why Salt and Smoke got rid of their seating area that was in the parking spaces in front of it, but other places on the U City side of the loop (like Ranoush, which is just a couple doors down) kept theirs? Salt and Smoke still has a handful of tables on the sidewalk, but it's got to be like a third of what their capacity was before.
Maybe downsizing outdoor space for winter?jwisch wrote: ↑Oct 12, 2022Apologies - this question is more west loop than east loop. I couldnt' find a better thread....
Does anyone know why Salt and Smoke got rid of their seating area that was in the parking spaces in front of it, but other places on the U City side of the loop (like Ranoush, which is just a couple doors down) kept theirs? Salt and Smoke still has a handful of tables on the sidewalk, but it's got to be like a third of what their capacity was before.
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I've visited Delmar a few times in the last month or so - once on a Friday night, once on a Monday night, and once on a Sunday around noon. Each visit has left me encouraged - there have been lots of people out, and the strip has felt safe and lively. It's just crazy how many vacancies there are. Hopefully we will eventually see new housing developments at Delmar and Skinker and at the Commerce Bank site to bring even more patrons to Loop businesses.
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I agree; the Loop has been super lively recently, and it is super encouraging.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- the Loop should encourage and allow tall apartment buildings on the blocks just to the north.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- the Loop should encourage and allow tall apartment buildings on the blocks just to the north.
Development on the parking lots was shown in the Parkview Gardens neighborhood plan until biz owners got that nixed because they feared that customers driving in would be afraid of structured parking.
Word is that the Cicero's building was sold a few months ago, and the apartments are being renovated. An announcement on the first floor retail space may be coming in a few months.
From the mayor's State of the City address.
From the mayor's State of the City address.
Stl Mag - Ben & Jerry’s franchise in the Delmar Loop reopens
https://www.stlmag.com/dining/the-ben-j ... ns-tomorr/
https://www.stlmag.com/dining/the-ben-j ... ns-tomorr/
That cms they’re using let someone put a single quote in the url and it never encodes right…quincunx wrote:Stl Mag - Ben & Jerry’s franchise in the Delmar Loop reopens
https://www.stlmag.com/dining/the-ben-j ... ns-tomorr/
Three Kings suffered a major fire last night which spread to the apartments above. Not sure of the extent of damage, but there's been a dozen or so emergency vehicles blocking Delmar all morning.
yeah, i tweeted this earlier but...framer wrote: ↑Apr 26, 2023Three Kings suffered a major fire last night which spread to the apartments above. Not sure of the extent of damage, but there's been a dozen or so emergency vehicles blocking Delmar all morning.
Mission Taco/Salt & Smoke/Ranoush (CWE), Vin de Set complex (Lafayette Square) and now Three Kings (Loop).
What is going on with all these fires in STL restaurants in the last few months.
Is Blick Art Materials closing? The space is listed for lease.
https://www.crexi.com/lease/properties/ ... elmar-blvd
https://www.crexi.com/lease/properties/ ... elmar-blvd
Yes, that location is closing. Technically, they are "moving" to the former Artmart, which they bought, located in Brentwood.quincunx wrote: ↑May 08, 2023Is Blick Art Materials closing? The space is listed for lease.
https://www.crexi.com/lease/properties/ ... elmar-blvd
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Whoa, had no idea Artmart "closed". Bought out and rebranding happening? Is that the gist of it?