MoDOT would like to dump some of the land it owns there and have it developedquincunx wrote: ↑Oct 08, 2021MODoT is looking for a consultant to do a Planning and Environmental Linkages study I-64 from Kingshighway to Jefferson. This hopefully might lead to redoing the Market/Compton/FPA interchange.
https://www.modot.org/sites/default/fil ... 20City.pdf
Thanks for posting.quincunx wrote: ↑Oct 08, 2021MODoT is looking for a consultant to do a Planning and Environmental Linkages study I-64 from Kingshighway to Jefferson. This hopefully might lead to redoing the Market/Compton/FPA interchange.
https://www.modot.org/sites/default/fil ... 20City.pdf
Are you talking removal entirely?dredger wrote: ↑Apr 29, 2022^ Thanks for posting,
Easy peasy, got my plan based on 1) Redo Grand/I64 intersection 2) City makes Grand/FPP an at grade intersection and 3) do away with Market/FPP/I64 interachnage and replace w Market/FPP blvd. I guess the other item once those three items are done, do you really need Vande/I64 connections?
Not sure, I see a lot of value in making FPP to Market from Kingshighway to Downtown a true multimodal blvd and do away with the FPP underpass taking it below Grand as well as the whole Market Street/FPP interchange with I-64. However, I also think that you would have to look at rebuilding the Grand/I64 Freeway giving you the capacity between Kingshighway, Grand & the rebuild Jefferson Street interchange configuration. So that leaves the question in my mind, is the ramps revolving Boyle & Vande a benefit as is, anything that should be changed, quesiton.dweebe wrote: ↑Apr 29, 2022Are you talking removal entirely?dredger wrote: ↑Apr 29, 2022^ Thanks for posting,
Easy peasy, got my plan based on 1) Redo Grand/I64 intersection 2) City makes Grand/FPP an at grade intersection and 3) do away with Market/FPP/I64 interachnage and replace w Market/FPP blvd. I guess the other item once those three items are done, do you really need Vande/I64 connections?
No chance of this happening. The Cardinals just paid millions to renovate Stars Park, which is itself a very historical Negro Leagues site. Just build around itRuskiSTL wrote:Do whatever deal with the devil and Harris Stowe you have to make please god, make this happen.
Plus you’d have to tear down Vashon. No way that should happen. It’s one of the few MCV buildings left.CG91 wrote:No chance of this happening. The Cardinals just paid millions to renovate Stars Park, which is itself a very historical Negro Leagues site. Just build around itRuskiSTL wrote:Do whatever deal with the devil and Harris Stowe you have to make please god, make this happen.
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I drew something like this and sent it to contacts I have at MoDot awhile ago. Only differences I did were fewer intersection lights and dedicated turn lanes instead as well as FPP as only 2 lanes with Brickline on the north side of the ROW. I agree with Compton becoming the main interchange/intersection rather than Grand. Grand ideally becomes more ped and public transit focused.sc4mayor wrote:I posted this up about a year or so ago. Obviously none of this is to scale (including lane markings) and yes, FPA would need to come south around HSSU's campus. But I left the 40 mainlines in place so the existing underpasses for the Market ramp could be used as a Theresa Street connection between the Armory area and FPA.
I left access at Grand because I don't think MoDot will be amenable to giving that up. But I would be more than fine with an easy four way interchange at Compton instead. I would also transition the Grand Boulevard entrances to Fordham and Council Towers to right in/right out only and move their actual entrances up to FPA. Grand and FPA would be made at grade, etc.
While I'd like to see that, do you really think SLU and the Grand Center powers would let that happen?LArchitecture wrote: ↑May 02, 2022I drew something like this and sent it to contacts I have at MoDot awhile ago. Only differences I did were fewer intersection lights and dedicated turn lanes instead as well as FPP as only 2 lanes with Brickline on the north side of the ROW. I agree with Compton becoming the main interchange/intersection rather than Grand. Grand ideally becomes more ped and public transit focused.sc4mayor wrote:I posted this up about a year or so ago. Obviously none of this is to scale (including lane markings) and yes, FPA would need to come south around HSSU's campus. But I left the 40 mainlines in place so the existing underpasses for the Market ramp could be used as a Theresa Street connection between the Armory area and FPA.
I left access at Grand because I don't think MoDot will be amenable to giving that up. But I would be more than fine with an easy four way interchange at Compton instead. I would also transition the Grand Boulevard entrances to Fordham and Council Towers to right in/right out only and move their actual entrances up to FPA. Grand and FPA would be made at grade, etc.
