Ulrich Medical leaving Chesterfield for Texas. Anybody know how many employees this will impact in the St. Louis area?
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“More business friendly area” = Texas is giving us loads of free money to move there.
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^While a small number, hopefully most choose to stay in STL. We have a robust medical community that should be able to absorb anyone that chooses to stay.
I would also add that execiutives and the other higher earners in the company and therefor the decision makers are probably sold on the No State Income Tax pitch. .JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2022“More business friendly area” = Texas is giving us loads of free money to move there.
Can't recall if it was FL or TX but when they did an overall tax comparison on what people pay in taxes altogether from income or no income, property taxes, and other taxes say sales tax it was pretty much a wash compared to California. Some of that skewed with Prop 13 limiting property taxes even though real estate values went through the roof but none the less everyone pays for services but not necessarily the same way.
Rawlings won’t be at BPV. Moving to Westport.
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Hearing what they have planned, that is incredibly disappointing. You must really hate downtown to be planning a whole Rawlings "Experience" and not have it in some proximity to the Ballpark and the hotels that hundreds of thousands of baseball fans visit annually.
How many of them would actually make the trek to... Westport Plaza? Probably a fairly small fraction.
How many of them would actually make the trek to... Westport Plaza? Probably a fairly small fraction.
Looking at the renderings from the article, the only thing i could think of is "this would have killed it at BPV".
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Downtown, fair or not has a serious, serious PR issue with all of the bad press regarding crime. if the administration is not willing to put downtown on lockdown, you can expect more companies to flee. I have friends that live downtown and they admit it’s changed drastically since covid. It’s sad that downtown is missing out on all of these opportunities. What is it going to take to change the narrative. What is the Jones administration’s plan? I would love to know.
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How disgusting that’s all I have to say (in regards to not moving downtown).jshank83 wrote:Rawlings won’t be at BPV. Moving to Westport.
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Correct, horrifically bad PR right now. What’s the City’s sales pitch to businesses right now? Who’s in charge of it?DogtownBnR wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2022Downtown, fair or not has a serious, serious PR issue with all of the bad press regarding crime. if the administration is not willing to put downtown on lockdown, you can expect more companies to flee. I have friends that live downtown and they admit it’s changed drastically since covid. It’s sad that downtown is missing out on all of these opportunities. What is it going to take to change the narrative. What is the Jones administration’s plan? I would love to know.
Other than “helping Downtown…help’s the region” charitable plea or we have a bunch of cheap office space, what is left?
Clearly, the above, won’t overcome the major crime issues, 1 percent additional income tax, 911 calls going unanswered, trash not being picked up, bad school district, Progressive politics (I respect peoples choice of politics — just saying when your politics only represent 10% of St Louisans, that’s not attractive), homelessness issue, prosecutors office is a joke, bad street conditions, traffic laws are not enforced, and so on.
Downtown needs to get their act together quick. St Louis metro is a flat growth market, so it’s just musical chairs of people/businesses moving around.
In SLDC's Economic Justice Action Plan, Downtown is in the EJI-5 area indicating it is a low priority area for the agency...DogtownBnR wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2022Downtown, fair or not has a serious, serious PR issue with all of the bad press regarding crime. if the administration is not willing to put downtown on lockdown, you can expect more companies to flee. I have friends that live downtown and they admit it’s changed drastically since covid. It’s sad that downtown is missing out on all of these opportunities. What is it going to take to change the narrative. What is the Jones administration’s plan? I would love to know.
It is recommended that SLDC concentrate its efforts in EJI-1 and EJI-2...
"These areas (EJI-5) were shown to have lower need and both historically and currently are supported through traditional lending. Encouraging jobs, supporting workforce development, small business ownership, and ensuring affordable housing should be the focus of SLDC in these parts of the City."
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Did anyone try to get them to move downtown? Bill Dewitt should've been all over this lol
Missed opportunity to locate in Ballpark Village. Talk about visibility…
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Rawlings has long been a suburbanite. While the synergy with BPV is obvious, I'm surprised they came inside 270.
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^I just asked this question to a former Rawlings employee that I work with and he said the same thing (they are dedicated suburbanites) and added that their leadership is also very cheap, doesn't like STL, and refuses to pay at or near-ballpark village rates.
He also speculated this move/PR is a set up to sell the biz.
He also speculated this move/PR is a set up to sell the biz.
From Rawlings CEO...
“One of the things that has always struck me coming to this city is how few people know that we are actually headquartered in St. Louis,” Mike Zlaket, Rawlings’ chief executive, said. “For one reason or another, we’ve remained under the radar. Hopefully, with this announcement, that’s about to change.”
“One of the things that has always struck me coming to this city is how few people know that we are actually headquartered in St. Louis,” Mike Zlaket, Rawlings’ chief executive, said. “For one reason or another, we’ve remained under the radar. Hopefully, with this announcement, that’s about to change.”
They hope the glove will appear in blimp shots from Cardinals games, lol.
Huge swing and a miss not going to BPV, but it seems it was a long shot no matter what anyway.
I do think the idea of a 360 bar on top of the gold tower is pretty neat though.
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I do think the idea of a 360 bar on top of the gold tower is pretty neat though.
That, together with the choice to not move downtown, shows a pretty stunning level of cluelessness and lack of self-awareness.Timmy wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2022From Rawlings CEO...
“One of the things that has always struck me coming to this city is how few people know that we are actually headquartered in St. Louis,” Mike Zlaket, Rawlings’ chief executive, said. “For one reason or another, we’ve remained under the radar. Hopefully, with this announcement, that’s about to change.”
Yes, and maybe some time this decade they can patch the discolored windows.
I mean, I agree (sadly) with all of this for a company like Energizer/Bunge/etc. However, moving down by the stadium actually seems like a good business move here. You are trying to increase your visibility and you are creating an interactive experience and museum to drive revenue and build brand awareness. Busch Stadium draws ~3M baseball fans a year from all over the country (and beyond). Will some of these fans make their way to Westport? Maybe. Would many many more go to the museum and "immersive experience" if it was right next to the ballpark (and possibly hotel) they are already going to? Seems like a very easy decision to me. This, to me, is akin to putting the Cardinals museum in south county. If the goal was cheap/convenient office space, then this move isn't really all that questionable. The "miss" comes from the fact that they are looking to do more beyond just having an office.kbshapiro wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2022Correct, horrifically bad PR right now. What’s the City’s sales pitch to businesses right now? Who’s in charge of it?DogtownBnR wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2022Downtown, fair or not has a serious, serious PR issue with all of the bad press regarding crime. if the administration is not willing to put downtown on lockdown, you can expect more companies to flee. I have friends that live downtown and they admit it’s changed drastically since covid. It’s sad that downtown is missing out on all of these opportunities. What is it going to take to change the narrative. What is the Jones administration’s plan? I would love to know.
Other than “helping Downtown…help’s the region” charitable plea or we have a bunch of cheap office space, what is left?
Clearly, the above, won’t overcome the major crime issues, 1 percent additional income tax, 911 calls going unanswered, trash not being picked up, bad school district, Progressive politics (I respect peoples choice of politics — just saying when your politics only represent 10% of St Louisans, that’s not attractive), homelessness issue, prosecutors office is a joke, bad street conditions, traffic laws are not enforced, and so on.
Downtown needs to get their act together quick. St Louis metro is a flat growth market, so it’s just musical chairs of people/businesses moving around.
I mean, what do people do in Louisville? You hit the bourbon trail, some of the bourbon bars downtown, go to the Louisville Slugger museum, etc. Where do we take out of towners that come to STL? Among other things, the standard for most of us is Arch grounds, City Museum, City Garden, AB Brewery tour, and a Cardinals game, including BPV and the Cardinals museum (if they like the Cardinals). I'm not sure how many out of towners will go to Westport for this museum, I doubt I'll ever take anyone there...
It's pathetic how corporate leadership has doubled down on suburban offices. Could you imagine how downtown would be if even half of our major companies were located downtown?MRNHS wrote: ↑Nov 18, 2022I mean, I agree (sadly) with all of this for a company like Energizer/Bunge/etc. However, moving down by the stadium actually seems like a good business move here. You are trying to increase your visibility and you are creating an interactive experience and museum to drive revenue and build brand awareness. Busch Stadium draws ~3M baseball fans a year from all over the country (and beyond). Will some of these fans make their way to Westport? Maybe. Would many many more go to the museum and "immersive experience" if it was right next to the ballpark (and possibly hotel) they are already going to? Seems like a very easy decision to me. This, to me, is akin to putting the Cardinals museum in south county. If the goal was cheap/convenient office space, then this move isn't really all that questionable. The "miss" comes from the fact that they are looking to do more beyond just having an office.kbshapiro wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2022Correct, horrifically bad PR right now. What’s the City’s sales pitch to businesses right now? Who’s in charge of it?DogtownBnR wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2022Downtown, fair or not has a serious, serious PR issue with all of the bad press regarding crime. if the administration is not willing to put downtown on lockdown, you can expect more companies to flee. I have friends that live downtown and they admit it’s changed drastically since covid. It’s sad that downtown is missing out on all of these opportunities. What is it going to take to change the narrative. What is the Jones administration’s plan? I would love to know.
Other than “helping Downtown…help’s the region” charitable plea or we have a bunch of cheap office space, what is left?
Clearly, the above, won’t overcome the major crime issues, 1 percent additional income tax, 911 calls going unanswered, trash not being picked up, bad school district, Progressive politics (I respect peoples choice of politics — just saying when your politics only represent 10% of St Louisans, that’s not attractive), homelessness issue, prosecutors office is a joke, bad street conditions, traffic laws are not enforced, and so on.
Downtown needs to get their act together quick. St Louis metro is a flat growth market, so it’s just musical chairs of people/businesses moving around.
I mean, what do people do in Louisville? You hit the bourbon trail, some of the bourbon bars downtown, go to the Louisville Slugger museum, etc. Where do we take out of towners that come to STL? Among other things, the standard for most of us is Arch grounds, City Museum, City Garden, AB Brewery tour, and a Cardinals game, including BPV and the Cardinals museum (if they like the Cardinals). I'm not sure how many out of towners will go to Westport for this museum, I doubt I'll ever take anyone there...
Let's make sure they use the Arch in website header images though. Otherwise they'd be geographically irrelevant. Ope..goat314 wrote: ↑Nov 18, 2022It's pathetic how corporate leadership has doubled down on suburban offices. Could you imagine how downtown would be if even half of our major companies were located downtown?MRNHS wrote: ↑Nov 18, 2022I mean, I agree (sadly) with all of this for a company like Energizer/Bunge/etc. However, moving down by the stadium actually seems like a good business move here. You are trying to increase your visibility and you are creating an interactive experience and museum to drive revenue and build brand awareness. Busch Stadium draws ~3M baseball fans a year from all over the country (and beyond). Will some of these fans make their way to Westport? Maybe. Would many many more go to the museum and "immersive experience" if it was right next to the ballpark (and possibly hotel) they are already going to? Seems like a very easy decision to me. This, to me, is akin to putting the Cardinals museum in south county. If the goal was cheap/convenient office space, then this move isn't really all that questionable. The "miss" comes from the fact that they are looking to do more beyond just having an office.kbshapiro wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2022
Correct, horrifically bad PR right now. What’s the City’s sales pitch to businesses right now? Who’s in charge of it?
Other than “helping Downtown…help’s the region” charitable plea or we have a bunch of cheap office space, what is left?
Clearly, the above, won’t overcome the major crime issues, 1 percent additional income tax, 911 calls going unanswered, trash not being picked up, bad school district, Progressive politics (I respect peoples choice of politics — just saying when your politics only represent 10% of St Louisans, that’s not attractive), homelessness issue, prosecutors office is a joke, bad street conditions, traffic laws are not enforced, and so on.
Downtown needs to get their act together quick. St Louis metro is a flat growth market, so it’s just musical chairs of people/businesses moving around.
I mean, what do people do in Louisville? You hit the bourbon trail, some of the bourbon bars downtown, go to the Louisville Slugger museum, etc. Where do we take out of towners that come to STL? Among other things, the standard for most of us is Arch grounds, City Museum, City Garden, AB Brewery tour, and a Cardinals game, including BPV and the Cardinals museum (if they like the Cardinals). I'm not sure how many out of towners will go to Westport for this museum, I doubt I'll ever take anyone there...